Space News
space history and artifacts articles

Messages
space history discussion forums

Sightings
worldwide astronaut appearances

Resources
selected space history documents

Websites
related space history websites

  collectSPACE: Messages
  Models & Toys
  Dragon Models' 1:72 Saturn V 5-foot model (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search


This topic is 14 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14 
next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Dragon Models' 1:72 Saturn V 5-foot model
Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 30680
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-11-2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Models' first look at their new 1:72 Saturn V, as being announced at the All Japan Model & Hobby Show.

alexbaja
Member

Posts: 448
From: Naxxar, Malta
Registered: Dec 2010

posted 10-11-2011 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At this scale I can send my Chiwawa to the moon.

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-11-2011 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We already have the top of the rocket (Apollo 9 and 10 models), we might as well get the bottom!.

Dragon folks are really reading our posts.

cycleroadie
Member

Posts: 322
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011

posted 10-11-2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this a kit or pre-built?

Bill Hunt
Member

Posts: 378
From: Irvine, CA
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 10-11-2011 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And it could be yours for just $1000!

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 30680
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-11-2011 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cycleroadie:
Is this a kit or pre-built?
It is pre-built (though Dragon may introducing a kit as well). I have photos of the first test casting, which I'm using to recommend detail improvements. I unfortunately cannot share the photos but if you see anything wrong in the promo image above, please do share.

mode1charlie
Member

Posts: 671
From: Honolulu, HI, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 10-11-2011 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A handle for the CSM hatch! (Sorry, I know this isn't a Saturn V issue, but really - how did that detail get overlooked in an otherwise very fine series of models?)

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-12-2011 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hunt:
And it could be yours for just $1000!

Huh?

Rick Mulheirn
Member

Posts: 2790
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 10-12-2011 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much is it without the child?

GACspaceguy
Member

Posts: 1655
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006

posted 10-12-2011 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Improvements:

The fins need to be silver with the letter for each fin. Also, the bottom of the engine fairings needs to be silver as well.

Ironman One
Member

Posts: 56
From: Ormond Beach, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 10-12-2011 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ironman One   Click Here to Email Ironman One     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is all preliminary, however it looks like the "United States" on the second stage is misaligned with the roll pattern. Also are the stages able to separate and show detail?

Now if only we can get the Mercury Redstone, Mercury Atlas and Gemini Titan in the same scale! Oh, and don't forget the Saturn IB. That would be very impressive.

Bill Hunt
Member

Posts: 378
From: Irvine, CA
Registered: Oct 2002

posted 10-12-2011 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
Huh?

Well, given that Apollo 10 is $80 for just the first foot of stack, and the bottom stages are a lot thicker, I figure it ain't gonna be cheap. My guess: $150 per foot at least. I LOVE that they're doing it, I just fear the price tag.

On the other hand, if it's successful, maybe they'll do a whole series of 1:72 vehicles - shuttles, every unique Apollo booster, etc, etc. A 1:72 International Space Station anyone?

SpaceAholic
Member

Posts: 3276
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-12-2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umbilical interfaces, vent and relief ports on each stage; antenna's need to be added.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 30680
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-12-2011 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ironman One:
I know this is all preliminary, however it looks like the "United States" on the second stage is misaligned with the roll pattern. Also are the stages able to separate and show detail?
The markings were digitally added to the first test casting for the purpose of creating the promo image. And yes, the stages do separate with engine detailing.

golddog
Member

Posts: 187
From: australia
Registered: Feb 2008

posted 10-12-2011 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for golddog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope the model will be available in Australia, but I doubt it.

p51
Member

Posts: 1118
From: Olympia, WA, USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 10-12-2011 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Hunt:
I LOVE that they're doing it, I just fear the price tag.
I agree, this thing isn't going to be cheap at all. It would be SO cool to have, and is a model you could back into a corner so displaying it wouldn't be all that bad. I'd think it would be too heavy and awkward to hang from the ceiling.

press4meco
Member

Posts: 28
From: Seattle, WA, USA
Registered: Jul 2001

posted 10-12-2011 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for press4meco   Click Here to Email press4meco     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My 0.02 on this is that Dragon should start at the level of detail that Bandai was able to obtain in their version and go from there. With this being a 1/72 scale model, the level of detail is only going to be that much more important. As was mentioned above, detailed umbilical plates, antennas and the like are what will make this model really worth it.

Kudos to Dragon for pursuing this scale of model. Just hope they can do it justice.

Jay Chladek
Member

Posts: 2270
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007

posted 10-13-2011 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been advised by a contact in the know that eventually Dragon will offer a 1/72 unbuilt model kit of the Saturn V as well. They are pretty much going through the approach of using the same scaling data and CAD design to develop products for both the pre-built and model kit production lines to help spread the development costs around somewhat.

I sure as heck don't have the budget to get a pre-built monster, but I can be convinced to buy a kit of it if and when one is available (provided the price is about $200 or less).

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-13-2011 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the price of this model, are we looking at a plastic or metal model? Or a mix of the two, like their Apollo 9 and 10 models?

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-13-2011 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And their Apollo 9 and 10 models make up for the top of the Saturn V based from a photo from Hobby Link Japan tweets.

dog320
Member

Posts: 49
From: West Sussex, United Kingdom
Registered: Jul 2010

posted 10-13-2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dog320     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really hope Dragon don't go down the road of just scaling up their 1:400 models. Those are full of errors ranging from incorrect markings to missing and incorrect components.

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-20-2011 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Dragon's website:

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-20-2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish the model would look like the one shown on the left of the image!

SpaceAholic
Member

Posts: 3276
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-20-2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So who will be the first to offer a matching 1:72 LUT?

mode1charlie
Member

Posts: 671
From: Honolulu, HI, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 10-20-2011 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, for the price of whatever that thing is going to cost, it'll need a much nicer (and more secure!) base.

apolloprojeckt
Member

Posts: 1009
From: arnhem netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009

posted 10-23-2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very big!!!

alexbaja
Member

Posts: 448
From: Naxxar, Malta
Registered: Dec 2010

posted 10-23-2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will need a whole living room to make a diorama out of this one.

My Mrs. will kick me out.

ilbasso
Member

Posts: 1501
From: Greensboro, NC USA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted 10-23-2011 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we all need to go live at the Karst residence. At least we know it is a space model-friendly environment!

GACspaceguy
Member

Posts: 1655
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006

posted 10-23-2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ilbasso:
I think we all need to go live at the Karst residence.
You bet! We are already picking out the best spot for it.

p51
Member

Posts: 1118
From: Olympia, WA, USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 10-23-2011 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexbaja:
You will need a whole living room to make a diorama out of this one.
I saw a Saturn V model the same scale in a museum yesterday and realized it was around 5 feet tall. Of course, anyone can do the math and realize how big it'd be, but when you see one that size in person, it really makes you stop and say to yourself, "Really, would I ever have the room to display something that honking big?"

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 30680
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-23-2011 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by p51:
...realized it was around 5 feet tall. Of course, anyone can do the math and realize how big it'd be...
The title of this topic is Dragon Models' 1:72 Saturn V 5-foot model and the first photo is labeled "1.5m in height" — but sure, you could do the math if you really wanted.

Daugherty54
Member

Posts: 345
From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 10-23-2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The original Saturn V was 363 feet tall - divide that by 72 for the height of the model assuming the scale is truly accurate. That gives us a model that is 5' and 1/2" tall... 60.5 inches.

I just want to know the cost now....

p51
Member

Posts: 1118
From: Olympia, WA, USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 10-24-2011 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The title of this topic is Dragon Models' 1:72 Saturn V 5-foot model and the first photo is labeled "1.5m in height" — but sure, you could do the math if you really wanted.
Yeah, I get that, that's why I posted it like that, that it was already painfully obvious how tall the thing would be, what I was talking about was that even knowing that, it was sort of a shock to see something that size in person and realize how big it really would be when you're standing next to it, as opposed to just reading about it online, that's all...

cspg
Member

Posts: 4820
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006

posted 10-24-2011 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by apolloprojeckt:
Very big!!!
Interesting picture. If I'm not mistaken, on the lower right, there's a model of what appears to be the Hayabusa spacecraft and also what appears to be a moon or asteroid (it looks like an egg!)- target of Hayabusa?

Regarding the Saturn V, if you do own Dragon's Apollo 9 or 10 models, you can easily imagine how tall this model will be. And aside from the price tag, I wonder how big the shipping box will be...

Philip
Member

Posts: 5038
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 10-24-2011 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any prices yet? And shipping prices...

alexbaja
Member

Posts: 448
From: Naxxar, Malta
Registered: Dec 2010

posted 10-24-2011 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alexbaja   Click Here to Email alexbaja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
I wonder how big the shipping box will be...
I suppose it will be as big as the price tag, then the shipping will cost as big as the Saturn V itself, then I guess it is a vicious circle.

Space In Scale
New Member

Posts:
From:
Registered:

posted 10-24-2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space In Scale   Click Here to Email Space In Scale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does separate for the different stages, so the box might not be all that gigantic.

Can't wait to see what else is offered in 1/72, i.e. Other rockets (discounting the two they say they are releasing) and shuttles/shuttle stacks.

Glint
Member

Posts: 825
From: New Windsor, Maryland USA
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 10-24-2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Space In Scale:
Can't wait to see what else is offered in 1/72, i.e. Other rockets

Agreed. Especially if they replicated the 1/72 scale rocket model collection displayed at the Stafford Air & Space Museum.

Jay Chladek
Member

Posts: 2270
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007

posted 10-25-2011 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, they are doing a 1/72 Mercury Redstone as well. A 1/72 Gemini capsule has been done, so one figures a Gemini Titan may be in the works. That would leave Mercury Atlas and Apollo Saturn 1B as the gaps to plug (Monogram already has the 1/72 shuttle stack and a Semroc 1/70 Saturn could plug the 1B gap as well).

So, I believe a full 1/72 rocket collection is indeed within the realm of possibility in a couple years. If Dragon were to also do some 1/72 R-7s (Vostok, Voskhod and Soyuz) that would be even neater. Granted Mach 2 has R-7s now, but they need a bit of work to build properly.

By the way, as for prices, to my knowledge that still needs to be worked out. Dragon had a display at the iHobby convention in Chicago this past week and for the Saturn V, the date and price still said "TBA" on them.

mode1charlie
Member

Posts: 671
From: Honolulu, HI, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 10-25-2011 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second Jay's enthusiasm for early Soviet stuff. And while we're on the subject: the Shenzhou capsule as well.


This topic is 14 pages long:   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14 

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | The Source for Space History & Artifacts

Copyright 1999-2014 collectSPACE.com All rights reserved.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47a





advertisement