Posts: 182 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 10-15-2014 03:20 PM
Something I spotted in an Apollo 14 image: If you look towards the bottom left of the photograph you can see a PLSS at the base of the LM ladder. Further towards the centre is another PLSS. If you follow a line between the two you can see the marks where this second PLSS bounced, probably after hitting the one at the base of the ladder!
LM-12 Member
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posted 10-15-2014 09:21 PM
Capcom told Shepard and Mitchell at 05 16 24 33 that they "really registered the seismometer" when they tossed those PLSS backpacks out onto the lunar surface. A "good heavy throw" is how Mitchell described it.
The Apollo 16 landing site is south of the lunar equator, and Young is facing north in the photo and your diagram, so it seems right to me that all he had to do was look up to see the Earth above Charlie Duke.
Duke has his visor eyeshade down in the flag photos that Young took.
Captain Apollo Member
Posts: 369 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
posted 10-16-2014 05:02 AM
Regarding the John Young salute, which of the two jumps John made is the one in that famous photograph?
schnappsicle Member
Posts: 410 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2012
posted 10-16-2014 05:28 AM
The John Young jump salute photo referenced above is the second photo Duke took. In the first photo, Young looks to be just slightly higher judging by the position of his right elbow vs. Stone Mountain. Of course that might just be an illusion since it appears that Duke moved slightly to his right for the second photo. I would have to verify that with the TV footage, but I see a very slight difference in shooting position between the 2 photos.
The easiest way for me to tell which of the 2 photos it is is by looking at where Young is in relation to the UV camera behind him. There is a gap between Young and the camera in the first photo, while Young's knee is right up against the camera in the second photo.
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posted 10-16-2014 08:27 AM
Frames 18339 and 18340 are the images of John Young at the flag. Frame 18340 is a better view of the blue dot of Earth in the visor.
Here is the rover TV camera view of Young and Duke.
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 182 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 10-30-2014 04:38 PM
Apollo 14 image AS14-69-9650 (amongst a few others taken at the same time) contains a view of the impact crater made by Apollo 13's SIV-B.
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posted 01-11-2015 03:22 PM
Dave Scott wore two different gloves on his Apollo 9 EVA. The extravehicular glove he wore on his right hand can be seen in photo AS09-20-3054. The intravehicular glove he wore on his left hand can be seen in photo AS09-20-3061.
From the Mission Report on pages 4-5 and 10-14:
The Command Module Pilot wore one extravehicular glove and one intravehicular glove. The hand with the intravehicular glove became warm but was not uncomfortable.
An extravehicular glove was worn on the right hand and an intravehicular glove on the left. No temperature extremes were encountered with the intravehicular glove. Since manual spacecraft control capability with the extravehicular glove is marginal, the intravehicular gloves are considered superior to the extravehicular gloves for all command module operations.
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posted 03-14-2015 11:56 AM
Photo AS15-91-12348 shows the LM-10 instrument panel and the glass window of the range/range-rate meter that broke prior to crew ingress. From page 208 of the mission report:
Sometime prior to ingress into the lunar module, the window of the range/range-rate meter broke. Upon ingress, the crew saw many glass particles floating in the spacecraft, presenting a hazardous situation ... A surface flaw deeper than the threshold depth for the glass operating stress must have existed on the outside of the meter window at launch. The flaw started growing as the cabin depressurized during the launch phase, and finally grew large enough for the glass to break. For future missions, an exterior glass doubler will be added ... In addition, all similar glass applications in the lunar module and command module were reviewed and changes are being made.
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posted 03-15-2015 06:52 PM
Cannot see any obvious flaw in the glass cover in this pre-launch close out photo of the LM-10 instrument panel.
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posted 03-19-2015 11:56 AM
A high-resolution view of the Apollo 16 LM ascent stage damage, AS16-122-19534, with a description by Ken Mattingly as he photographed the LM yaw maneuver:
CMP: Looks like some of the thermal blanket around the descent engine on the back end there is - well, pretty badly chewed up. Some of the stuff is torn, a couple of panels are torn off, and some of the stripping in between looks like it was struck by something. It looks like all the Mylar blankets underneath are still in tact.
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posted 03-31-2015 04:23 PM
A side panel in the LM aft equipment bay was also torn off. The area can be seen in frame 19536 to the lower-left of the reaction control thrusters.
posted 04-01-2015 06:32 PM
At the conclusion of the NASA film "Apollo 17: On the Shoulders of Giants," the scene is of photo AS17-140-21497, Schmitt at Tracy's Rock. As the camera pans up, the Earth comes into view at the top, then the credits roll.
Yet the Earth is not visible in the published photos of 21497 or 21496. Was it cropped out or inserted in the film? (No photoshop in '72 and no lines appear).
Just curious. It would be a better photo if the Earth was in the shot.
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posted 04-01-2015 09:40 PM
I would say the Earth was added in the film. I don't see the Earth in any of the photos in that particular Station 6 pan. It was higher up over the South Massif.
The rover can be seen in frame 21495. Both antennas are pointed at Earth.
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 182 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 04-01-2015 11:32 PM
That view of Earth is from Station 2 - either the TV footage or one of the photographs, for example AS17-137-20910.
The distribution of the clouds in the view of Earth favours (to my eyes at least) it being from the TV footage. The photos and TV showing Earth in EVA-3 (when they visited station 6) show a completely different set of weather patterns.
They may not have had Photoshop, but composing images in this way was not impossible, for example by overlaying two separate pieces of film.
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posted 08-07-2015 11:02 PM
The Apollo 11 rollout on 20 May 1969 was two days after the launch of Apollo 10. ML-3 was still on pad B and can be seen in the distant background.
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posted 09-02-2015 07:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: I think photo S69-27089 is incorrectly identified as Apollo 10. ML-2 can be seen in the photo. Apollo 10 was on ML-3.
Apollo 9, Apollo 12 and Apollo 14 were all stacked on ML-2. Does anyone know which vehicle is seen in the photo?
The caption is wrong for that image. Maybe the photo number is wrong also.
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 182 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 10-04-2015 10:05 AM
I've been looking at high resolution scans of panoramic camera images available here.
Zooming in very close in to AS15-P-9430 you can clearly make out the LM and the tracks made during EVA-1 - the image was taken just after the completion of that EVA.
If you zoom in even closer, you can even make out the LRV where it was parked up after the same EVA.
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posted 10-04-2015 12:15 PM
The post-EVA one is interesting compared with the pre-EVA one taken just after landing (AS15-P-9370).
And also the one taken after the crew had re-united in orbit (AS15-P-9809).
Apollo 17's site at Taurus-Littrow can also be seen in a shot taken as the crew were dumping their equipment prior to lift-off (AS17-P-2750).
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posted 10-04-2015 12:15 PM
Great panoramic camera photos. I think you can even see the LM and the LRV in AS15-P-9430 on the max Zoomify setting without zooming in any further. It is very interesting to see orbit views of the landing sites when the moonwalkers were still down there.
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posted 10-05-2015 12:13 AM
More panoramic camera photos of the landing sites taken from orbit between LM landing and liftoff:
AS15-P-9377 (REV 16) ... Apollo 15 LM after standup EVA by Dave Scott
AS17-P-2314 (REV 15) ... Apollo 17 LM prior to EVA-1
AS17-P-2755 (REV 49) ... Apollo 17 LM - last flyover before LM liftoff
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 182 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 10-08-2015 11:21 PM
Good finds.
This took some doing - not only to isolate the right area on a dark and obliquely viewed part of the moon, but also to download the 2Gb tile!
Apollo 14's LM, viewed by Apollo 16 in AS16-P-4707 (tile 01).
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Posts: 4122 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 10-09-2015 11:51 AM
Now that is impressive. I applaud your persistence. The Apollo 15 and Apollo 17 panoramic cameras did not cover that area.
This website has 3-D views of the Apollo 16 landing site using metric camera images. The resolution of the metric cameras was not quite as good as the panoramic cameras, but the 3-D views are interesting.
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posted 10-09-2015 02:24 PM
Note the Bulova watch in the header of each panoramic camera image.
One Big Monkey Member
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posted 12-07-2015 10:52 AM
Apollo image AS12-49-7278 shows Alan Bean holding an Environmental sample container.
Reflected in his visor is Pete Conrad taking the photo. Reflected in Pete Conrad's visor is... Alan Bean holding an environmental sample container.
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-01-2016 09:12 AM
In Apollo 8 rollout photo 68-HC-609, a wire can be seen descending from the VAB. The wire can be seen emerging from a small opening between the High Bay doors.
Any idea what the wire was for, and why it would be there during a rollout?
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posted 06-18-2016 08:47 AM
Here is 16mm Magazine 1098-Y from the Apollo 10 Flight Journal.
The footage from about 1:39 to 2:43 seems to show the frames mentioned above. Notice that the white object seen at :50 is seen again at 2:23 and 2:43 in the film.
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posted 06-18-2016 11:34 AM
From NASA image S70-35145, I'd never noticed the hand-drawn cartoon displayed on the monitor over Lunney's right shoulder, and to Kranz's left.
A smiling Lunar Module carries a wounded CSM safely home on a stretcher...
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posted 06-18-2016 12:19 PM
This Apollo 10 Flight Journal map shows the 1493 to 2056 and 3604 to 5614 frames from 16mm Magazine Y that were plotted.
YankeeClipper Member
Posts: 639 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
posted 06-18-2016 01:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by David Carey: A smiling Lunar Module carries a wounded CSM safely home on a stretcher...
Drawn by someone's son or daughter?
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-12-2018 08:40 AM
Apollo 9 commander Jim McDivitt can be seen in the lunar module pilot window behind what looks like the window shade in EVA photo AS09-20-3067 that was taken by Rusty Schweickart.
oly Member
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posted 06-12-2018 09:29 AM
While not a photo, the 16mm DAC film shows that Buzz Aldrin can be seen in reflection on the Lunar Module window as Neil Armstrong takes the Giant Leap.
Buzz looks to be too busy to stop and watch what is happening outside.
oly Member
Posts: 1493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 06-12-2018 10:07 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: You can see that 16mm camera and attached magazine...
For the life of me I cannot see the film magazine attached to the camera in this shot:
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: The Apollo 14 moonwalkers left a film magazine on the lunar surface by mistake. The Lunar Surface Journal indicates that it was 16mm DAC magazine HH.
Did they know they left it on the surface before liftoff? That would've driven me crazy. Too bad they couldn't retrieve it... I know the reasons why, it's just frustrating.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4122 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-12-2018 10:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by oly: I cannot see the film magazine...
The DAC magazine on the camera on the MET has red and blue stickers on top, like the Apollo 12 DAC magazine seen in this Smithsonian photo.
oly Member
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posted 06-12-2018 11:09 AM
Got it, Thank you. It breaks my heart seeing that Hasselblad left sitting on the MET.
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-12-2018 11:15 AM
McDivitt and Schweickart had to switch places in the LM so Schweickart could exit the forward hatch.
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posted 06-12-2018 09:16 PM
The photo of McDivitt in the LM window might have been taken around 73:18 GET when he said to Schweickart:
How about getting over by the other window? That one's in the shade.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4122 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-17-2018 09:27 PM
Photo AS14-64-9095 might be another image of the data acquisition camera (DAC) magazine that was left behind on the moon. It was taken at Station B1.
The Apollo Lunar Surface Journal identifies the DAC magazine left behind as Magazine HH, saying that it was loaded onto the 16mm camera on the MET at the LM before they headed out on EVA-2, and not turned on until they were near Station F.
But the 16mm may have been turned on even earlier. From the mission transcripts, between Station C1 and Station C2:
CC: Roger, Al. And do you have anything left on the 16-millimeter or has it been running on the MET.
SHEPARD: No, it hasn't. We might turn it on now - follow the progress.
CC: Roger, Al.
SHEPARD: Is it running now?
MITCHELL: Yes.
SHEPARD: Have you checked the setting on it?
MITCHELL: Yes, I did.
The EVA-2 transcript does not seem to indicate that the 16mm DAC was ever turned off after that.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4122 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-20-2018 05:36 AM
It looks like Jim McDivitt can also be seen in the window in this photo taken after the Apollo 9 lunar module undocked.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4122 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-10-2018 08:16 AM
The protective cover on the SLA was coming apart when the Apollo 6 stack reached Pad 39A after rollout on February 6, 1968.
posted 10-15-2014 03:20 PM
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