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Topic: Details in high-resolution Apollo photos
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Lou Chinal
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posted 02-12-2013 06:15 PM
   
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Originally posted by Blackarrow:
I'm slightly confused, Lou: which Apollo 11 images were shot in black and white?
Sorry, I was thinking of Apollo 12.On edit: On second thought, I have to ask, didn't Apollo 7 have color TV? Or did they add color later? |
LM-12
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posted 02-12-2013 06:20 PM
Magazine AS11-39 is black and white. All the images were taken from the LM windows, including several shots of the flag. |
Headshot
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posted 02-12-2013 08:08 PM
Apollos 7 and 8 were equipped with black and white television cameras. |
mach3valkyrie
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posted 02-13-2013 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by Lou Chinal:
On second thought, I have to ask, didn't Apollo 7 have color TV? Or did they add color later?
I believe Apollo 10 carried the first color TV camera. |
LM-12
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posted 02-25-2013 04:36 PM
Here is a photo of Charlie Duke saluting the flag at the Descartes landing site. On the lower part of the flag poles, there were two red stripes marking the minimum and maximum depths to hammer the pole into the lunar surface. |
LM-12
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posted 03-10-2013 03:36 PM
From the Apollo 12 mission transcripts during LM rendezvous and docking: CONRAD: Look at the umbilical cover. Do you suppose that's where it got hit by lightning or something? What's made it brown? Look at the top of it; it's burned.BEAN: Yes, I do believe that's where it got hit. CONRAD: No. Maybe it gets burned by other -- BEAN: Maybe we better find out. Why don't you move over to the left a little bit? And I'll take a picture of it, and they can look at it later. They did not have a 70mm camera in the LM to take a picture of the cover. CM photo AS12-47-6877 was taken earlier when the LM undocked for landing. |
LM-12
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posted 03-21-2013 01:40 AM
You can see the Vehicle Assembly Building under construction in the distance at far left in this Gemini 3 launch photo S65-21520 taken in March 1965. You can also see two of the red Launch Umbilical Towers next to the VAB. |
buckeyecal
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posted 03-21-2013 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by LM-12:
You can see the VAB under construction in the distance at far left in this Gemini 3 launch photo...
Sweet shot. I always have a fondness for anything dealing with Gemini 3. The flight took place less than 12 hours after I was born, in California on Mar. 22nd.  |
LM-12
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posted 03-21-2013 02:28 PM
They were driving steel pilings into the ground for the VAB way back in August 1963. That was about three months after the MA-9 flight by Gordon Cooper. It is interesting to see how far along the VAB construction was even before the first manned Gemini flight. |
Lunar Module 5
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From: Wales, UK
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 03-21-2013 03:54 PM
Am I right in thinking that the rescue vehicle 2 that can be seen in the Gemini 3 photo may be of the same sort used for Space Shuttle launch ops? |
LM-12
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posted 03-21-2013 04:04 PM
This might be the same Gemini rescue vehicle. |
Lunar Module 5
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posted 03-21-2013 04:11 PM
It could well be — and how cool would it be to have been in it watching Gemini 3 launch from there! I remember there being a photo of an early shuttle launch taken from a similar distance with the rescue vehicle crew looking on — must have only been a few hundred metres from the pad! Amazing photo! |
heng44
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From: Netherlands
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 03-22-2013 01:49 AM
That would be from STS-26. |
LM-12
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posted 04-06-2013 09:11 AM
The GATV visual status panel can be seen in this high-resolution photo taken on Gemini 10. The panel contains status lights and two clocks that show the burn time remaining in both the primary and secondary propulsion systems. There is this description of the Agena Status Display Panel in Section 5.4 of the Propulsion Subsystem Engineering Analysis Report - Gemini-Agena Target Vehicle NASA document. The Gemini-ATV Status Panel (ASP) is mounted on the forward end of the Target Docking Adapter of the Agena Target Vehicle where it is visible to the astronauts in the Gemini spacecraft during and after the docking maneuver. The panel displays information on the status and safety of the Agena propulsion, guidance, electrical power and docking systems. Originally, only eight Agena parameters were to be displayed in the Gemini spacecraft. However, the number of parameters increased to the point that the spacecraft no longer had the space or weight capability to accommodate them. Accordingly, the panel was placed on the Target Docking Adapter. |
LM-12
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posted 04-07-2013 09:42 AM
NASA photo S66-50763 shows astronauts Pete Conrad and Dick Gordon arriving back at Cape Canaveral after the Gemini 11 flight.In the background, you can see astronauts Jim McDivitt, David Scott and Rusty Schweickart, who at the time were still the AS-204 backup crew. Interesting photo when you consider the future prime and backup crewmember assignments for the Apollo 8/9 "D" mission, Apollo 12 and Apollo 15.  |
LM-12
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posted 04-20-2013 10:08 AM
The Apollo 6 SLA was damaged during launch back in April 1968. The damage can be seen in NASA photo S68-29733. You can see a large hole in the SLA and pieces of debris falling by the third stage.From the flight evaluation report: The dynamic environment during S-IC boost exceeded the spacecraft design requirements. A structural failure of at least the SLA occurred at about 00:02:13. However, it was of such a nature that the flight loads were sustained for the remainder of the launch phase.  |
LM-12
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posted 05-18-2013 08:55 AM
Looks like an umbilical line did not disconnect properly during the Gemini 10 launch. The Gemini Program Corrective Action Listing (page 95) explains the problem, cause and resolution: The flyaway lanyard of Stage II fuel vent topping disconnect was broken in lift-off. Vent topping disconnect still attached at launch.Not determined. It appears that the lanyard force did not reach the release collar because of interference with the vent hose. Lanyard was rerigged to improve operation and reduce interference with the vent hose.  |
Tom
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From: New York
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-18-2013 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by LM-12:
This photograph taken a few seconds earlier shows both Apollo 7 and Apollo 8 in the same shot. NASA photo number unknown.
Great shot of both Apollo 7 and 8. Is there a link to the original without the black arrow pointing to Apollo 8? Thanks. |
LM-12
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posted 05-18-2013 01:02 PM
No link that I am aware of. I have not seen the photo elsewhere. |
mach3valkyrie
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From: Albany, Oregon
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posted 05-18-2013 04:18 PM
There can't be too many photos with 7 and 8 in the same shot. Two days when they were on their pads at the same time. Pretty rare, but great to see. Thanks for the research. |
LM-12
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posted 05-19-2013 09:46 AM
That photo would not have been possible if the Mobile Service Structure (MSS) was also on pad 39A. Apollo 8 would have been hidden behind it.The Apollo 7 crew must have had a great view of Apollo 8 in the distance as they walked across the swingarm to the white room on launch day. |
topmiler
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posted 05-19-2013 10:04 AM
Any more pics of two Apollo launch vehicles together? |
Tom
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posted 05-19-2013 12:00 PM
As Apollo 9 launched prior to the Apollo 10 roll-out, and 10 launched prior to the 11 roll-out, I believe the only other time can be when AS-204 and AS-206 were on LC-34 and 37 respectively... and of course Skylab 1 and 2. |
mach3valkyrie
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From: Albany, Oregon
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posted 05-21-2013 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by Tom:
I believe the only other time can be when AS-204 and AS-206 were on LC-34 and 37 respectively.
Do you mean AS-202 and AS-203 around July 1, 1966? I don't know if 202 was on Pad 34 when 203 launched from Pad 37, but AS-206 was used on Skylab 2, first manned mission.
Just trying to clarify. |
dtemple
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posted 05-21-2013 12:47 AM
Apollo 1, SA-204 and SA-206 were on pads 34 and 37-B respectively at the same time. SA-206 was intended to launch LM-1 in March (if I recall correctly) of '67. Both launch vehicles were removed from the pads after the Apollo 1 fire. Ultimately, SA-204 was used to launch LM-1 from Pad 37-B and SA-206 to launch the first Skylab crew from Pad 39-B. |
LM-12
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posted 06-03-2013 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Tom:
Great shot of both Apollo 7 and 8.
The distance between the the two launch pads is about 6.5 miles. |
LM-12
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posted 07-07-2013 10:55 AM
ASTP photo AST-32-2695 seems to show some damage on the service module SPS engine nozzle. It looks like some type of heat-related blistering. I did not see any reference to this damage in the anomaly summary of the mission evaluation report.  |
Ronpur
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From: Brandon, Fl
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posted 07-07-2013 01:52 PM
I read that this was some type of protective coating that would normally burn off completely during a mission that had the SPS firing longer. ASTP did not have a burn as long. In this case, it just bubbled up. I do not remember where I read that... (It was a detail I had to replicate for my model, LOL.) |
mikej
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posted 07-07-2013 06:56 PM
Yes, the blistering was the protective coating that would have normally burned off. Additional discussion in this thread. |
LM-12
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posted 08-15-2013 09:14 PM
Was the SM retractable spotlight deployed at the time of the Apollo 13 explosion? The pole looks damaged. |
LM-12
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posted 08-16-2013 09:32 AM
You can see in photo AS13-59-8512 that the spotlight was in the deployed position at SM separation. The spotlight was located on the opposite side of the SM from the damaged area, but it might have struck debris if the spacecraft was rotating in the passive thermal control (PTC) roll mode at the time of the explosion. |
LM-12
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posted 08-31-2013 01:28 PM
In Apollo 13 photo AS13-59-8526, you can see three objects that form a triangle: the moon, the SM after separation, and a white object that may or may not be a piece of debris drifting away. It looks like a piece of debris to me.There are similar white objects in photos AS13-59-8516, AS13-59-8536 and AS13-59-8538.  |
LM-12
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posted 09-11-2013 11:45 PM
The Apollo 10 mobile launcher was on pad B when Apollo 11 rolled out to pad A. Apollo 10 had launched two days earlier. |
Ronpur
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posted 09-12-2013 04:14 PM
Oh, the days when you could prepare two vehicles at once... |
LM-12
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posted 09-12-2013 04:41 PM
There is a LIFE magazine photo showing the same rollout from a different angle. |
LM-12
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posted 10-31-2013 12:06 AM
Is that the bubble helmet of Neil Armstrong in the LM overhead rendezvous window in NASA photo AS11-44-6568? |
jimsz
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posted 10-31-2013 07:49 AM
Here is an enlarged image to make it easier to see: |
nasamad
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posted 10-31-2013 08:15 AM
Could be Armstrong in the rendezvous window, the lighting on the "bubble helmet" in from the right direction. I have always been convinced I can see Armstrong in his window this Apollo image but I'm yet to convince anyone. The lower part in the window could either be the window blind or part of Armstrong'sc suit, then Armstrong behind it.  |
LM-12
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posted 11-01-2013 09:47 AM
That's a tough one. I see what looks like the window shade, but I can't make out anything else in the window. |
LM-12
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posted 11-02-2013 11:34 PM
Earth with the Apollo 8 S-IVB third stage almost out-of-frame at right. |
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