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Jim Behling
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posted 08-04-2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bwhite1976:
Once the skycrane delivers Curiosity and blasts away will it just fall and crash land somewhere or was there thought as to what area it might be directed to? Will there be any attempt to video its own landing with onboard cameras on the skycrane itself? Just curious.
When the descent stage (skycrane is the name of the concept, not the hardware) flies off, it is no longer controlled, the guidance system and avionics are in the rover. Once the cables (which include communication lines) are cut, the descent stage has a simple controller that just commands the thruster to full power and to fly off at an angle. There is no active control, much like jamming the accelerator on car and the driver jumping out.

Cozmosis22
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posted 08-05-2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's hoping for an "all systems nominal" callout and a happy landing for Curiosity.

Fezman92
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posted 08-05-2012 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got my small bag of peanuts (they didn't have a jar) for tonight and I plan to have a bowl of popcorn next to me. Also if this works I am using it for my persuasive speech on why we need to give NASA more funding. Coincidentally the speech is due exactly 10 hours after the landing of the rover.

GoesTo11
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posted 08-05-2012 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One hour to go.

David Carey
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posted 08-05-2012 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Carey   Click Here to Email David Carey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best wishes for success tonight to all of the folks involved. It'll be quite a feat if all the pieces fall (in a controlled fashion of course) into place.

Certainly fits the bill as a "go big or go home" effort....

spaceman1953
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posted 08-06-2012 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1953   Click Here to Email spaceman1953     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations, JPL! And THANK YOU!

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-06-2012 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES!!!!! IMAGES!!!

GoesTo11
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posted 08-06-2012 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy crap, it worked.

dogcrew5369
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posted 08-06-2012 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy cow!! What an achievement JPL! You did it. Can't wait for the work to begin.

Cozmosis22
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posted 08-06-2012 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wheels down safe and sound. Waiting for the dust to clear.

Beautiful images!

GoesTo11
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posted 08-06-2012 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are the Martians now!

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-06-2012 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I hear the presidential science advisor right in saying the U.S. was the only country to land surface landers on other planets? He forgot about the Soviet Venera probes (but yes, the U.S. is the only country to put landers on Mars).

Michael Ritter
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posted 08-06-2012 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Ritter   Click Here to Email Michael Ritter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats JPL and welcome to Mars!!

spaceman1953
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posted 08-06-2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman1953   Click Here to Email spaceman1953     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, tonight, I can just almost forgive manned planetary exploration inactivity since that night in July, 1969.

That second image tonight of the shadow of Curiosity on the surface is so very similar to those of a lunar module.

Those teams at the JPL just never seem to disappoint us! God Bless each and every one of them!

And, you know... on the west coast, where Neil Armstrong likely is, this is still his birthday! What a present!

Mike Dixon
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posted 08-06-2012 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of people have every right to feel incredibly proud of their achievements. Well done JPL!!! A sensational effort. I feel like a DVD special is already overdue.

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-06-2012 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an amazing ride to the surface! A wonderful day for NASA and specifically JPL, congratulations!

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-06-2012 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, guess I'll have to go scouring the shops next month looking for a Hot Wheels Curiousity rover (knowing now that the real thing made it down safe).

Whew, I am surprised my PC's live NASA feed worked all through that without dying when the websites began crashing. A most impressive engineering feat to be certain.

DChudwin
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posted 08-06-2012 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations to JPL and NASA in soft landing Curiosity on Mars. Personally, I had been pessimistic about their chance of success, but I am pleased to be wrong. If the mission continues, the rover should return some great science about the history of Mars and its ability to support life.

Cozmosis22
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posted 08-06-2012 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
Whew, I am surprised my PC's live NASA feed worked all through that without dying when the websites began crashing.
Oh yeah! News conferences available here.

fredtrav
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posted 08-06-2012 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats to NASA and JPL. They pulled it off flawlessly.

Philip
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posted 08-06-2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed congrats to everybody involved! Curious to see if Curiosity will rewrite the 1976 Viking landers' bio-experiments results!

NASA-JPL engineers started to eat "Good luck" peanuts during the Ranger 7 lunar mission in July 1964. As the Ranger 7 mission performed flawlessly, a tradition was started!

During all unmanned launches, engineers were seen eating peanuts (as seen on Viking and Voyager era NASA photos) but since the 1990s they also started eating peanuts during critical mission mile stones such as orbit insertions, flybys and landings.

There are even pindas in this gigapan taken during the MSL Curiosity mission.

Blackarrow
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posted 08-06-2012 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Holy crap, it worked.

I couldn't put it more eloquently - absolutely wonderful news! Gold medal to NASA.

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Amazing. Those peanuts worked.

garymilgrom
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posted 08-06-2012 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What an exciting event the live coverage from JPL was. Congratulations to the entire team for pulling this off.

Watching the reporter scrum in the auditorium I noticed Robert Pearlman. He's lower left in this image of my TV.

Robert JPL Mars Land 400px

Gilbert
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posted 08-06-2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic effort, JPL and NASA and USA!

Gilbert
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posted 08-06-2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to be negative but it's beginning to irritate me at how often the major media outlets are throwing the words "geek" and "nerd" into their reports. Really...in this age of a faltering education system do we need to cast inspirational/successful science and engineering projects in an uncool light? There is also an over-emphasis placed on the mission's cost to taxpayers. Is it me or am I just looking for something to gripe about?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-06-2012 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just in...

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-06-2012 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW, there are no words to use to describe just what an amazing photo this is!

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posted 08-06-2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for issman1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In these troubled times on our planet, the triumph of Curiosity on the red planet makes space exploration our last, best hope.

Just one question though - why no microphone to hear what Mars sounds like?

gliderpilotuk
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posted 08-06-2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not quite as cool as the MRO photo of Phoenix descending, but still a remarkable feat.

Fezman92
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posted 08-06-2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone seen the Oylmpic memes about Curiosity? My favorite is the computer graphic of it on Mars with the caption saying 'Sticks the Landing. No Olympic Medal"

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posted 08-06-2012 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arjuna:
Amazing. Those peanuts worked.

Funny thing is, I was nibbling on peanuts the whole time, and I had no idea about that "tradition."

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-06-2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oreo paid tribute to Curiosity's landing...

David Carey
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posted 08-06-2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Carey   Click Here to Email David Carey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome.

I'd hoped Google might make Curiosity the Doodle of the Day....

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posted 08-06-2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you to the wonderful engineers at JPL and NASA! What a marvelous accomplishment! Absolutely beautiful! Now the science REALLY starts...

And I WON'T call them nerds. Geeks maybe, but not nerds. There's a difference. Geek is good... Nerd, not so much.

The Oreo is too funny. Wait! Where can collectors get those? (LOL)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-06-2012 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by David Carey:
I'd hoped Google might make Curiosity the Doodle of the Day...
They did, after the fact, by revising their current doodle...

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posted 08-06-2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rjb1elec   Click Here to Email rjb1elec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations JPL and NASA you have astounded the blue planet yet again. Given us hope and something good to look forward to in these very hard times. Send us some postcards soon curiosity.

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posted 08-06-2012 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at the Museum of Flight in Seattle with about 600 other people. Great fun!!

Jay Chladek
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posted 08-06-2012 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somebody mentioned the sky crane. There will probably be shots of it from orbit, but Curiosity will not go driving up to it since the thing is now a toxic dump with leaky hydrazine fuel at the point of impact. You don't want to send a rover to that because the fuel residue could contaminate the sensors.

You know, I just had a weird thought. With this method of entry and landing, NASA seemingly did a virgin spacecraft sacrifice to the Martian Gods. Sure, Curiosity got down safe, but the sky crane ended up in a crash as the "sacrifice".

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posted 08-06-2012 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gilbert:
Not to be negative but it's beginning to irritate me at how often the major media outlets are throwing the words "geek" and "nerd" into their reports.
It is a sign of the times. For it is easier to tear down those who succeed and do well then it is to actually put the work in yourself. This methodology helps those who fall short to feel better about themselves. Look at how the rich are portrayed by example. First you dehumanize them, and then look out for what happens next.

I did see a lady interviewed at Planetfest last night by the local news proclaim how cool the engineers are now with mohawks and earrings versus white shirts and plastic pocket protectors of yesteryear.


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