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KAPTEC
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posted 02-17-2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My congrats to winners. Blake, Jennifer and... of course, my big brother, Tim. Great jobs!

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NASA announces winning patch design in end-of-shuttle contest

A launching space shuttle flanked by an American flag and stars hailing both NASA's orbiter fleet and the astronauts whose lives were lost while flying aboard them has been chosen by the space agency as its official insignia to mark the approaching retirement of the winged spacecraft.

NASA revealed Monday the winning design in its in-house space shuttle commemorative patch contest, which began last October. The selected gem-shaped patch, which was designed by Hamilton Sundstrand camera engineer Blake Dumesnil from Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, was chosen by judges out of the 85 designs submitted by the agency's past and present workforce...

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posted 02-17-2010 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to everyone for the kind words. This design will definitely be made into a patch.

In fact in the next few weeks I'll be unveiling the final three in my series as well as some new patch designs. Stay tuned...

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posted 02-17-2010 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The winner is indeed a gorgeous design, though I can't help but wonder how all those gradients and shadows will look in embroidery...

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posted 02-17-2010 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw the results, congrats to Tim for his podium finish!!!!

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posted 02-17-2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool, Tim! Can't wait to see them. Congrats again on making the final three!

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posted 02-19-2010 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats Tim on your bronze medal finish. You're certainly one of most talented artists I've ever seen. Does anyone know when the winning patch will be available to purchase? Tim, maybe you could have your design manufactured.

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posted 02-19-2010 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dogcrew5369:
Does anyone know when the winning patch will be available to purchase?
At last update, NASA's plan was not to have the winning design produced as an embroidered patch but rather as a decal (as well as appear on NASA documents and t-shirts and mugs to be offered through the employee exchange stores).

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As his prize, Dumesnil will be presented with his winning art that will be uplinked to the International Space Station and returned to Earth with Endeavour's STS-130 crew.
As it turns out, all three designs that placed in the contest were uplinked to the STS-130 crew on Thursday. See: MSG 170 (22-0796) - Space Shuttle Program Commemorative Patch beginning on the Flight Day 12 execute package's page 28 (linked PDF).

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Blake Dumesnil's winning design was slightly altered by NASA and is now in its final, official form:


High-resolution not yet available. Credit: NASA

No word yet on embroidered patches, but NASA has begun placing orders for other items featuring this design, including lapel pins, charms, key chains and magnets.

We will be taking orders for these items through collectSPACE soon. Watch this space for details.

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AB Emblem has announced they will be producing an embroidered patch (and lapel pin) based on Blake Dumesnil's design, as pictured above. Availability is estimated to be three to four weeks.

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I've just received my 'end of mission' patch and have noticed some variations from the original design. I'm assuming it's the AB Emblem patch as this has been the norm from my supplier.

There is a brown tint particularly on the left SRB and the edging to the centre panel is green rather than the blue shown in the picture of the final NASA approved version. Have others noticed this?

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posted 05-12-2010 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen anything yet on how to order one. Did I miss something?

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posted 05-12-2010 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The patches are available through AB Emblem and therefore through all the gift shops and specialty stores who carry AB Emblem patches.

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posted 05-12-2010 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sadly, more unauthorized knock-offs are appearing...

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posted 05-12-2010 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasorenson   Click Here to Email rasorenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The final AB Emblem product is pretty exciting! NASA's tweeking of the original design adds further sophistication (for lack of a better term) to the color combinations. The attached, double layer embroidery of the orbiter/stack lends further to the 3-D effect. Shows how the knock off guys wind up with cheap replicas. The end of program patch is truly impressive.

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posted 05-12-2010 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't wait to get mine. It is a really nice design

butch wilks
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posted 05-13-2010 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rasorenson:
The end of program patch is truly impressive.
I'm sorry, I cannot agree.

I got the patch in on Tuesday and what a let down. It looked good in the photos I have seen, but with the orbiter/stack just bonded to the top of the patch for a 3D effect it just looks cheap and it will come off with little effort. I bet we see a number of patches with this part missing in time to come.

I see what AB had in mind and the patch is a bit of a complicated patch to do with the orbiter in it, but some people can do it without bonding bits to the patch as I have got one without the design altered by NASA.

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posted 05-13-2010 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butch wilks:
I see what AB had in mind and the patch is a bit of a complicated patch to do with the orbiter in it, but some people can do it without bonding bits to the patch as I have got one without the design altered by NASA.
I didn't know that NASA was doing that.

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posted 05-14-2010 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine arrived today, and yes, as Butch said, the orbiter/stack part of the patch has just been stuck on, (not very well), and will peel off quite easily.

This is an AB Emblem patch as it now has the number label on the back under the plastic coating. Mine is (161836BE 04/10 10), and was supplied to me by Stewart Aviation in the UK.

I also have the 'other' versions of this patch, and they are all one piece patches, but they are a little smaller than the AB Emblem patch.

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posted 05-14-2010 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rasorenson   Click Here to Email rasorenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
the orbiter/stack part of the patch has just been stuck on, (not very well), and will peel off quite easily.
This may be sacrilegous, but a couple of well placed/hidden hand stitches might help for longer term integrity.

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Not with this patch you will not, you add and I quote "but a couple of well placed/hidden hand stitches might help for longer term integrity" and they will stand out as plane as your face. The stitching on the orbiter/stack is too fine to do this.

With the old type of embroidered patch you may have got away with it, but not now with the new type of patch we get now they are just too fine.

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posted 05-14-2010 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butch wilks   Click Here to Email butch wilks     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking the stitching on the orbiter/stack is way, way too fine, so I had a look under magnificence and we have been had! It's a print.

The base is white stitching with a black outline but all the colors, the flag and the NASA logo from then on is in ink, not stitching.

As you can not print on a made-up patch as the ink would all over the place, that's why it's bonded to the main patch as that part is embroidered.

To AB it must have been a cheap way of doing all that detail in so small a space without trying to do the orbiter/stack in stitching.

But I must say I like patches to be all embroidered and not a print or parts printed.

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posted 05-14-2010 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bthumble   Click Here to Email bthumble     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will a golf style shirt be available with the patch logo?

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posted 05-15-2010 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are images of the patch:


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Originally posted by butch wilks:
To AB it must have been a cheap way of doing all that detail in so small a space without trying to do the orbiter/stack in stitching.
Could be that considering these tough times, they need to make cuts and this is one of them. It's a shame.

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posted 05-15-2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for backof   Click Here to Email backof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where are you guys finding the AB patch? I don't see it listed on their website yet.

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NASA visitor center stores have them in stock (Space Center Houston, Kennedy Space Center) as do online retailers such as The Space Store and Sky Force Space Patches. AB Emblem's product number is 161836.

As for the quality of the patch itself, I just gave the shuttle a good, strong pull, peel and tug and it didn't budge. With regards to it being printed, I doubt the decision was driven by cost but rather a desire to recreate the detail in Blake Dumesnil's design, which was not developed with embroidery in mind. The "printing" and affixing process may actually be more expensive than a straight sewn patch with lesser detail.

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We picked up a couple of them at the Astronaut Hall of Fame. It looks like a great patch and the quality is equal to any other produced by AB.

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posted 05-15-2010 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
I just gave the shuttle a good, strong pull, peel and tug and it didn't budge.
Sorry Robert, I've just peeled the right wing and booster away from the embroidered patch below very easily. (Very little glue used on my patch). The yellow embroidered section underneath the orbiter/stack is complete all the way across, with no breaks or missing section where the orbiter/stack should be glued on to the patch.

I see the number on the back of the patch matches the product number, but what's the BE at the end of the number mean?

The 04/10 10 must be the date, 10th April 2010.

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It stands for BE CAREFUL WHEN GLUING

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posted 06-18-2010 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem has just announced they will be offering this patch in a 10-inch version as well.

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They will need a lot of glue. Or maybe it is the right scale to embroider all the details.

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posted 06-25-2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So if the final launch slips into 2011 will they change the design?

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posted 07-01-2010 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The larger 10" version is now available from AB Emblem at $29.95, item No.161836 (but they call it a 'Collage'), no other details though.

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Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
So if the final launch slips into 2011 will they change the design?
As NASA announced today that STS-134 is slipping to Feb. 2011, the agency is indeed updating its official art to reflect 2011...

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So the new patches being produced by AB Emblem will reflect the change in year also? Will the patch now available with 2010 date be discontinued making this patch a some what rare collectible? I hope it will be changed. 30 years is a nice round number.

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The AB Emblem larger 10" version of this patch arrived today in the mail. It is 10" high and 8" wide, (at the widest point).

I'm very disappointed with it though! It's identical to the smaller 4" version, in that it is a two piece patch with the shuttle stack printed and glued on to the main part of the patch. (Sorry Erik it's not fully embroidered and yes they needed a lot of glue for this one).

The number on the back is 162603, not 161836 as quoted on AB Emblem's website, and the date is 06/10 10.

(The shuttle stack section is well stuck to the main body of this patch, unlike my 4" version).

If AB Emblem updates or remakes this 10" version to reflect the '30 years' of the Space Shuttle, let's hope they make a one piece fully embroidered patch.

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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
As NASA announced today that STS-134 is slipping to Feb. 2011, the agency is indeed updating its official art to reflect 2011...
Speaking of art, has NASA released a high-res version of the artwork?

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I haven't noticed the high-resolution art being posted to a NASA website as of yet.

And this may not even be worth posting, given how minor the change, but here is the '2011' version:


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