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lm5eagle
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posted 12-23-2009 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like 61 and 14. However, I find Dave's other patches to be very appealing, particularly his latter two designs illustrated above. Its the simple uncluttered depiction which draws me here. I do believe that a patch for this purpose should carry the names of the orbiters.

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Wow... great to see so many fantastic designs all at once. It's been a joy looking through these 85 designs!

My favourite is number 74 - simple but effective - Shuttle's soaring in space on golden plumes - remembering the crews of Challenger and Columbia - naming the orbiters - and the beginning/end dates ...fantastic!

One possible change on this one would be to have the orbiter icon which flies the final mission to be at top center... perhaps highlighted in some way... with the orbiter's name at the top of the patch.

My second choice would be the 'very different' number 67 - very clever design!

I personally don't think that payloads should be included on the final design. ISS and HST feature on many of the designs - these are high profile missions but the Shuttle has had so many payloads since 1981 why should these ones be featured? Interestingly Shuttle-Mir flights were not prominent in designs.

As a collectSPACE member I would be interested to take part in a poll of the 85 designs to see which designs are our top patches.

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Some of those designs are much too busy. The chosen design needs to be as simple and iconic as the original.

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Based on the posts to this thread, it appears that we have a few of the finalists as collectSPACE members. Congratulations to them and all 15! collectSPACE
NASA selects 15 finalists for end-of-shuttle patch contest

NASA revealed Monday the 15 patch designs that will compete to become the agency's official commemorative emblem for the end of its space shuttle program later this year.

"The emotion that has been put in to the designs shows tremendous commitment and loyalty to the space shuttle program," wrote Debbie Byerly, who led the patch contest as technical assistant to shuttle program manager John Shannon, in an e-mail to all 85 past and present NASA and contractor employees who entered. "The judges found it extremely difficult to narrow down the submissions to a 'Top 15,' but they have completed that task."

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While I think that all of the designs are great from an artistic point of view, I would hope that NASA does not overemphasize the the accidents with 14 stars in the patch.

Everyone involved in the program and all of us who have supported it will never forget what these brave astronauts did for their countries. Their sacrifice led to incredible enhancements in safety for the shuttle, and inspired NASA to move beyond LEO and start exploring space again. They have been appropriately memorialized in the past and likely will be in the future when we reach the planets.

The high profile, historic landmarks of the program are represented in various ways (Hubble, ISS, etc.) and show the great contributions of the shuttle to humankind, and this is what the program should be remembered for.

That is the purpose of the patch, in my opinion...to recognize the historic nature of the shuttle legacy, not the fact that we had two tragic accidents which cost 14 lives.

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I prefer that patch designed Tim Gagnon. Sad, that they don't and can't use all.

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posted 01-05-2010 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I'm not mistaken, all three of our cS entries (Tim's, Sean's and Rocketman's) made the cut. Well done!!!!

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Out of the final 15 designs I prefer the middle one. Cool blue design. I like that it has the years 1981 to 2010. As an earth orbiting program I don't know why the moon and Mars are included in it though.

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#2 gets my vote. I think it's important to include the Orbiters' names, and I love the way the design recalls the original program patch.

That said, I don't see a weak one in the bunch. Great work by everyone who participated.

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quote:
Originally posted by NavySpaceFan:
If I'm not mistaken, all three of our cS entries (Tim's, Sean's and Rocketman's) made the cut. Well done!!!!

I don't know which patches were made by our three fellow cSers, but my pick is #10. It has a very nice incorporation of the NASA logo and shuttle shapes, names all space-flown shuttles in order of flight, has a subtle use of the 14 stars and uses a setting sun over a real Earth which depicts the retirement of the shuttle and her work environment. Not cluttered and no wasted areas. Very well done!

I have a few minor negative notions about all of the rest, nothing terrible but enough to not make them my number one pick. I do have to mention at least two which stand way out, so forgive me if the creators of these are reading, but regarding #1 - the wings are simply way too large. And #9 - "Endeavor"?!

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While there are several good designs here, I think the most important thing to consider is how would these designs look on an embroidered patch. A lot of these designs contain small detail which I don't think would translate well into an actual patch. (For example, the photo realism in design #3 would be hard to simulate with needle and thread.) A simple and elegant design is what is really called for. Also, I think program patches, in general, should be simpler than specific mission patches.

I think patch 2, 4, 13, and 14 come the closest to being designs with the necessary simplicity and elegance. To my eyes, these designs already look like patches.

Of those four, I think 13 is probably the best design. I like the fact it echoes the original program patch, but shows the orbiter coming down for a landing, with the ISS in it's wake. It would perfectly compliment any of the mission patches. (Perhaps my only suggestion for a fix would be to improve the lettering at the bottom or substitute the names of the orbiters in that space instead of "Space Shuttle Program 1981-2010").

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posted 01-06-2010 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would be surprised what CAN be embroidered but I digress. I wouldn't be too concerned with the designs you see being embroidered because I signed a release yesterday that includes this provision:

"I hereby authorize the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and/or its assignees, licensees, contractors, or designees, to make changes or alterations to my design, to reproduce my design in any and all formats, and to distribute and use my design for any and all purposes."

So issues like the eagle on the satellite in #15 for example will be dealt with. We've all known that our designs would be "polished" to conform with requirements when we entered.

My question to all of you is this: After NASA chooses and then releases the official end of program design, is there interest in having a set of patches made (later this year) of the other 14 finalists?

(BTW my edit of 7JAN): This patch project will only happen if I can obtain permission from all the artists to make their patch.

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posted 01-06-2010 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KSCartist:
After NASA chooses and then releases the official end of program design, is there interest in having a set of patches made (later this year) of the other 14 finalists?
That's a great idea. I wish to register an interest.

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posted 01-06-2010 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those interested, here is the cS entry breakdown:

Number 4: Sean's

Number 6: Tim's

Number 8: Dave's (aka Rocketman's)

Rocketman!
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posted 01-08-2010 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocketman!   Click Here to Email Rocketman!     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wired.com has picked up Robert's story on the Top 15 finalists...

Wired Science: NASA’s Contest to Design the Last Shuttle Patch

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posted 01-08-2010 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alan Boyle at MSNBC also wrote about the contest, linking to collectSPACE:

Cosmic Log: The last patch... and much more

And another of the designers (who didn't make the Top 15) has posted her review of the finalists:

saroy.net: Commemorating the Shuttle Program

A reminder: the collectSPACE unofficial Fan Choice poll begins accepting votes on Monday, Jan. 11 and runs through Jan. 29, the same dates as NASA plans to hold its official employee-only People's Choice poll.

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posted 01-08-2010 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit surprised that Sara's entry did not make the top 15. It was one of my favorites of the 85.

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I really liked her concept, but the orbiter silhouette was quite distorted... That might have hurt her design with the judges. Just a guess.

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Vote now in collectSPACE's (unofficial) Fans' Choice poll for NASA's Space Shuttle Commemorative Patch contest, open Jan. 11 through Jan. 29 -- the same dates as NASA's official, employee-only People's Choice poll.

Will the fans pick the same design as the employees?

Bill Hunt
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posted 01-11-2010 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7 is my narrow fave if those left, but I quite like 2 & 3 as well. Some great ideas in there!

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Disappointed that none of the final 15 patches up for selection include an element of memorialization to the Challenger/Columbia and their respective crew's.

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Advise you look again -- all 15 finalists include elements commemorating the 14 crew members of STS-51L and STS-107.

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And so there are... missed the stars... thanks.

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I see that patch number 4 is winning at the moment. The thing I have against this patch is, it looks too much like the patch for the STS-8 mission so you could question its originality.

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For me, it is #14. When you look at each of them for just a second, it is the only one that immediately stands out as a non-standard crew / payloads / project office patch. It has 5 orbiters, so something special must be going on. At closer inspection, I even like it a lot! It would look fantastic in embroidery.

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posted 01-12-2010 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can we vote more than once? There are multiple patches I like and would like to have a vote on each of them?

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One vote per person: the poll is intended for participants to pick their single top design (and appropriate protections are in place to avoid multiple votes, short of requiring registration).

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I may be stepping into a hot subject on the selection of the commemorative patch with the polling results so far, but does anyone think it is important to see a full shuttle stack (Boosters/ET) included on the patch? I'm thinking of the thousands of people working specifically on the ET and Boosters who might feel a little slighted by the orbiter only patch.

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Lots of votes for #3 at the moment but I have a real problem with this one in the context.

Putting together a photo-realistic image with many shades of color is all very well but turning that into an embroidered patch with only eight different colors of thread isn't necessarily easy.

One of the real challenges in designing a patch is in creating an image that works when executed in only eight thread colors. The level of fine detail (including text) also needs to be limited to what can be executed in embroidery on a 4" patch. For me this design hasn't attempted to tackle these significant challenges.

It's a nice image but for me it's more of a poster design than a patch design.

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What happen to the contest poll? Was it removed? Checking what patch has the more vote.

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The poll is where it has always been, linked prominently from the front page.

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I wanted to thank all of those 300 plus people who voted for my design, (# 6). It looks like in this poll at least I will take the Bronze. Not bad at all.

I have no idea how the voting is going in the NASA employee poll and understand that the highest vote getter may not be chosen as the winning design by shuttle managers.

It was a pleasure to take part in this competition and to play a small role in the shuttle program via my former employer. (I was laid off on January 4th).

No matter how the competition ends I am grateful that my work was appreciated by so many and that I am in the company of some terrific artists.

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Robert, according to information on the internal NASA Shuttle Program web site (which I can access through work) the voting there runs through January 31st.

Would you consider extending the collectSPACE Fans' Choice poll to coincide?

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Indeed, the change was already underway and is now done. (According to NASA, their People's Choice poll was left open over the weekend because in some places they had advertised the 31st.)

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RP, you are always a step ahead... or, am I just a half a step behind?

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Florida Today: Patch designs snag the fabric of shuttle
"A lot of people are pouring their heart into this just like they poured their heart into the shuttle program," said Tim Gagnon, a Titusville resident and former shuttle subcontractor who is one of 15 contest finalists.

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NASA employees, public pick favorites for end-of-shuttle patch

After almost three weeks polling its employees, NASA has identified the "People's Choice" for their insignia commemorating the end of the space shuttle program. The favorite patch received nearly 30 percent of the workers' votes, but ultimately differed from the choice ranked highest by fans of the program during an unofficial public poll conducted over the same period.

The culmination of an in-house contest that resulted in 85 designs being submitted from across the agency, NASA's Shuttle Commemorative Patch People's Choice Poll gave employees the opportunity to vote for their favorite from a selection of 15 top patches as chosen by shuttle program managers serving as the contest's judges. The poll, which ran from Jan. 11 to Jan. 31, recorded 7,598 total votes...

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Johnson Space Center update
Space Shuttle Program Commemorative Patch Contest

We have completed the People's Choice Award portion of our Space Shuttle Program Commemorative Patch Contest. We received an overwhelming 7,606 votes and are so pleased with the participation and excitement exhibited for the submitted designs.

The winner of the People's Choice Award is Blake Dumesnil with Hamilton Sundstrand at JSC. Dumesnil's design received 29 percent of the votes. His accomplishment will be recognized at the STS-130 Crew Debrief at Space Center Houston in early March.

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The SSP announced their choice on the NASA website yesterday- they have also selected the design by Blake Dumesnil.

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Congratulations to Tim for his third place finish. And I like the fact the winner shows the full stack per Shuttleman's comments.


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