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KSCartist
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posted 03-19-2008 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am planning to release the patches I designed in commemoration of Projects Mercury, Gemini and Apollo - I'd like your opinions.
  1. They will be 8" patches and I'd like to ask should I release them one at a time or as a set?

  2. Due to it's historical significance (and because I think it looks cool) should I also offer a limited edition of a 12" Apollo? (I would probably have to pre-sell the entire order to pay for that one).

  3. Depending on the answer to question 2 - should the STS commemorative be an 8" or a 12" patch.

  4. I also plan to release X-15 and MOL commemoratives. Based on the design, they could be roughly 4" x 5" or would you prefer all the patches be around 8"?
Obviously the larger the patch the more it costs. So your feedback is critical. You will be a "focus group" and as likely customers I'd like to know what you think.

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posted 03-19-2008 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would be a lot more interested in patch quality. Keep the quality nice, please. I think we all know size does not matter. Ben

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posted 03-19-2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrewcli   Click Here to Email andrewcli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can we have a sneak peak?

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posted 03-19-2008 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevmac   Click Here to Email Kevmac     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My $.02 - I would actually prefer a smaller patch in the 4 or 5 inch range. 8 inches seems a bit overwhelming, especially if it is displayed with other mission patches, hung on a wall, or put on a piece of clothing with other patches. 4-5 inches would put in the same perspective of other space and aviation patches (if that is important to you). Thanks for letting us make input.

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posted 03-19-2008 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree with the above. 8" is more like a place mat than a patch. That's only my opinion, and I could be in the minority of course.

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posted 03-19-2008 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the input so far!

To address the questions and comments made to this point:

  1. If you've seen the "Celebrating 50 Years of America in Space" patch either here on cS or The Space Store or Jacques site spacepatches.nl you'll see the actual patch and I believe it will ease your concerns about quality.

  2. I've attached thumbnail images below. I know you'd like to see them in detail but I've had artwork lifted off of the Internet before and I've worked too hard to let someone else "cut and paste" their way into my wallet.

  3. The reason I'm thinking about 8" patches is because of the detail I want to capture in the designs. My idea is that they would be put on the back of jackets or framed in presentations. When you do see them you'll understand.
Please keep the comments coming. I value your opinion and I'd like to reach a consensus.

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A couple comments come to mind in looking at the drafts... by the way, they are all quite impressive...
  1. Blend the mission or patch logos into the background on the Gemini patch
  2. Too many names on the Gemini and Apollo patches. Suggest not having them.

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posted 03-20-2008 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those look terrific... I'd definitely buy a set of 8" patches. 12" might be a little much, though. It would be okay for a framed presentation but a bit too big for a jacket.

Thanks for the great work!

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posted 03-20-2008 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful work! Any plans to commemorate the Skylab missions and ASTP?

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posted 03-20-2008 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for space4u   Click Here to Email space4u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the new designs. Count me in for the 5 inch or the 8 inch ones. I think 12 inch is just too big.

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For those of you that have not purchased or viewed the Spaceflight 50 patch, it looks great. Design, color and quality is all there.

And now for the next phase.

  1. I think these three designs are great.

  2. I will buy an 8" and a 12" patch. So make both. Large to display. Small to wear. Yes an 8" patch will fit on a jacket if not above the pocket carefully place on your chest. Then take deep breaths to make your chest stick out. If you go smaller you will lose the important details. But make the 8!

  3. I have the 12" commemoration for the crews of Apollo 1, Challenger and Columbia. It is always an attention getter. The large size will do these designs justice. It will bring out the details and avoid clutter. This size will work on the back of a jacket but most likely will be displayed. So go larger to capture all of the details.

  4. Keep the names. The individuals that reached these goals are part of what we are trying to remember.

  5. As for which ones to release or to release all at once. Do whatever is logistically easiest for you. You are doing all of the work. We will be here to buy when the patches are ready.

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posted 04-25-2008 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mercury Commemorative patch is now on the "Buy, Sell, Trade" column.

I hope you all like it and will want to add it to your collections.

I do have plans for Skylab and ASTP under a combined "Apollo Applications" but the design is still in work. I also have created an X-15 and Space Shuttle commemorative.

The reason I designed Gemini the way I did was to have GTA 12 end at the "12 o'clock" position. I just liked it better that way.
You are correct that the Gemini symbol could be smaller, I'll put that in work.

Thanks again for all of the great feedback and thanks for looking.

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posted 05-16-2008 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an update: the Mercury patch is on order from the embroidery company. I should have them by the first week of June.

The next patch in the series is the X-15 commemorative:

This design is the third in the series "Celebrating 50 Years of America in Space" it honors the men and women of the X-15 Program.

The central theme of the design is the launch of the X-15 from its carrier aircraft. It flies to where the sky turns black. The twelve men who piloted the X-15 are listed in the order by which they made their first flight. The twelve stars in the sky represent the pilots service. The six white stars are for the civilians, five silver stars for the USAF pilots and 1 gold star for the US Navy pilot.

The patch is 6" in diameter and 4" high It is a fully embroidered with a merrowed border.

By the way I have updated the look of the Gemini commemorative based on your feedback, I'll be releasing that sometime next month. After that the schedule is as follows:
  • Apollo on July 20th
  • Skylab in August
  • International Cooperation (ASTP, Shuttle-Mir and ISS) in September
  • Space Shuttle Program in October
  • Constellation in January, 2009

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 05-21-2008 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Jacques told me that he will not partner this time I would like to ask those in Europe who wants to have these 8" Commemorative Patches? I would offer to partner with Tim.

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posted 05-21-2008 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just saw the X-15 commemorative. I like it!! - great design and colors. Love the size of the X-15 - a very bold and dynamic presence. Having the X-15 flying out of the normal design boundary further increases that feeling. I hope your embroidery company will do it justice when it becomes a patch.

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posted 05-22-2008 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have out-done yourself on the X-15 patch. I agree with Bill!! The deep blue and X-15 flying out of the patch really are dynamic. I also love the B-52 flying way below! Seeing the X-15 in the NASM is always exciting. I wish I could one day see a B-52 in person.

Your talent is extraordinary!

Ryan Walters
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posted 06-19-2008 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ryan Walters   Click Here to Email Ryan Walters     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got my Mercury patch in today and it is outstanding! I can't wait for the rest of the set!

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posted 06-19-2008 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't change a thing on that X-15 patch...it is stunning!!!

Can't wait to see what the embroidered version looks like.

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posted 06-20-2008 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, a great design, let's wait to see it as a patch ...

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posted 06-20-2008 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can see the embroidered version as part of the order form, posted here.

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posted 06-20-2008 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShuttleDiscovery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When will the Gemini and Apollo patches be available to order?

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posted 06-20-2008 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gemini is up next hopefully in about a month or two. Then comes MOL and then Apollo.

I very much appreciate the enthusiastic attention everyone is showing and I apologize that it is taking a bit longer than I originally planned.

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posted 06-30-2008 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm ordering this and the Mercury patch. Well done.

Have you given any thought to a Vostok, Voskhod, Soyuz, Salyut, Mir, etc. set of commemorative patches?

Also, I'd prefer to see ASTP as a separate patch also.

P.S. Add a Shenzhou and a SpaceShipOne patch and you've covered every era in human space flight.

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posted 07-02-2008 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received my Mercury patch today. Great design and beautiful made. Looking forward to receive the other patches.

Well done and congratulations.

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posted 07-17-2008 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also posted this update on the Buy, Sell, Trade forum. I expect delivery of the X-15 patches on July 24th. Thanks to all of you for supporting this project.

Next up Gemini. New art coming soon.

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posted 07-17-2008 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceCadet83   Click Here to Email SpaceCadet83     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by johntosullivan:
Have you given any thought to a Vostok, Voskhod, Soyuz, Salyut, Mir, etc. set of commemorative patches? Also, I'd prefer to see ASTP as a separate patch also. Add a Shenzhou and a SpaceShipOne patch and you've covered every era in human space flight.
Actually, I proposed that to Tim a little while back and have sent him a couple of rough sketches. He likes the idea of doing a Soviet/Russian commemorative set as well, but after he completes his other projects. I, for one, can't wait as I love his US designs!

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posted 07-26-2008 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received Tim's X-15 patch today. It is outstanding!! The colors are dramatic and vibrant and the photos do not do it justice! A great word to describe it is, "WOW!"

Thanks for the great work Tim!!

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posted 07-30-2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received the X-15 patches today from Tim. They are ready for shipping to every one who has payed me.

For people in Europe who are still interested in the patch you can contact me for details.

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posted 08-07-2008 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am pleased to announce that I am accepting pre-orders for the fourth patch in my ten-part series: "Celebrating 50 Years of America in Space."

Project Gemini Commemorative 8" Patch

This design is the fourth in the series "Celebrating 50 Years of America in Space" it honors the men and women of Project Gemini.

The design celebrates every manned mission in the Gemini Program. The central focus is the Project Gemini symbol, a Roman Numeral II with two stars of the Gemini constellation indicating the two man crew. The Gemini symbol rises above the Earth and points the way to the Moon. The main theme of each crew's mission emblem surrounds the perimeter of this patch. Each crew member's surname is paired in the order in which they first flew. The surnames of the final prime crew pilots (Cernan, Collins, Gordon and Aldrin) are placed together as their commanders had already flown. The four smaller stars in the center honor Ted Freeman, Ed Givens, Elliott See and Charlie Bassett who were killed before they could fly in space.

The patch is 8" in diameter with a merrowed border. It is not fully embroidered as the area of "space" behind the crew emblems is black twill. This allows the astronauts artwork to be highlighted in a 3 dimensional effect. The center area (inside the white circle) of this patch is fully embroidered.
I know this has taken longer than I originally planned and appreciate everyones support and patience.

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posted 08-08-2008 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gorgeous work, but did I miss something? The fourth patch? I only see Mercury, the X-15, and now Gemini...

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I've received both the Mercury and X-15 patches, and both look great!

The only concern I have is that if this is a set, they should all be similar sizes. I didn't realise quite how small the X-15 would be compared to the Mercury one. But it dosen't matter - I'm still very pleased with them!

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posted 08-20-2008 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's my fault for not making it clear. There are two issues I need to address when making a design. For the M-G-A and STS patches, the design needs to be at least 8" so that the embroidery can do justice to the artwork. In fact I am considering making the Apollo and STS commemoratives 10". But when you make a patch that big it becomes more expensive to produce and less commercially viable.

So in the case of the X-15, MOL, Skylab and International patches, I will make them as small as I can but still large enough to make them visually accurate and impressive.

I hope that clears things up.

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So in the case of the X-15, MOL, Skylab and International patches, I will make them as small as I can but still large enough to make them visually accurate and impressive.
Ah thanks for that!

By the way, I too only count 3 patches so far in the set (M-G-A). How is Gemini the fourh? or am I missing something here? Thanks!

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posted 08-21-2008 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For my point of view this is the first in that series, Mercury the 2nd, X-15 the 3rd and Gemini the 4th.

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Ah yes of course! I forgot about that one!

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I just received my X-15 patches. You continue to outdo yourself. The size is a nice break and compliment to the other commemoratives. The X-15 looks like it is flying towards the viewer. The shade change from from the sky to space is very well done. A very attention getting piece of work.

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I agree with Bob. The changing shade, and really all the patch is very well done my dear friend.

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posted 08-22-2008 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your redesign of the Gemini commemorative. Putting the names around the outside was a good move, allowing more focus on your art.

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posted 10-19-2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to let you know that I picked up one of the Mercury and Gemini Program patches the other day, and they look great! I look forward to your Apollo patch.

I highly recommend these patches to anyone who collects Mercury and Gemini memorabilia, and of course, patch collectors.

P.S. I like the way you designed the Gemini logo to show that the Gemini program was a 'bridge' to the moon!

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posted 10-20-2008 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, just want you to know that I received my Gemini patch. Again many thanks for a great design and work.


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