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Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-06-2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine have slightly darker plastic backs to them plus they both have the round white '800 438-4285 A-B Emblem abemblem.com' labels.

Gonzo
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posted 02-07-2013 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
I have one like Kevin's with the protruding wing; it's like the one pictured at bottom above but without the "101," which was added to the revised flown patch.
So with this, it sounds like there may be FIVE variations of this patch:

Original crew patches without 101:

  • Type 1 - 3"x4.25", bars instead of zig-zag, no protruding wing
  • Type 2 - 3.5" x 4.75", zig-zag, no protruding wing
Flown crew patches with 101:
  • Type 3 - 3" x 4.25, zig-zag, protruding wing
  • Type 4 - 3.5" x 4.75", zig-zag, protruding wing
And possibly a fifth, Robert's version, which I suspect is an original crew as it doesn't have 101:
  • Type 5 - unknown size, zig-zag, very similar to Type 1, but with the protruding wing
All are from AB Emblem, have cut edges (not selvedged) and plastic backs. Depending on when it was made, it may or may not have an AB sticker on the back.

Did I miss anything?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-07-2013 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gonzo:
And possibly a fifth, Robert's version, which I suspect is an original crew as it doesn't have 101...
The patch is pictured at the bottom of page two of this thread, so yes, original crew with a protruding wing.

Gonzo
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posted 02-07-2013 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Robert. I was making an assumption based on the missing "101" at bottom left of the patch. Since you said yours didn't have "101", I assumed it was a pre-crew change version. What I found interesting though was that you also said it has a protruding wing. None of the other pre-crew change versions have the protruding wing. So what you have is a FIFTH version. If I were to guess, I'd say it was a very late pre-crew change version. That is, to put them in order, yours was probably number 3 in the lineup. But I'm guessing here...

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 02-07-2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Gonzo that is a fair assumption as to the order of manufacture.

I have two examples of the (what you call a type 5) patch. They are the exact same size as the type 2 (but with the protruding wing of course).

Ronpur
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posted 02-07-2013 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found these images of designs for STS-62A. Are these real designs? And have any of them been produced as patches?

On the same website I found these on also had images of Apollo 18, 19 and 20, which were obviously never designed. And two versions of the Skylab Rescue.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-08-2013 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are finished renderings (I believe done by Jorge Cartes, but about that I may be mistaken) of draft designs that Tim Gagnon produced for the STS-62A crew in 1985. They were never produced as official (or authorized) embroidered patches.

For more, see: STS-62A mission and support patches and SpacePatches.info's STS-62A page.

(The Apollo 18, 19, 20 and Skylab Rescue designs are fantasies produced by the late Randy Hunt, in part from misappropriated artwork with no connection to any of those missions.)

KAPTEC
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posted 02-08-2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes. Tim was agree, and helped me to "polish up" his artworks. Only the third was never done.

Ronpur
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posted 02-08-2013 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ronpur   Click Here to Email Ronpur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Great info. If Crip said he wanted a design complete date of Sept 1985, was there not a design ever chosen?

KSCartist
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posted 02-08-2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The design complete date was the deadline he set for me to submit the art.

Unfortunately after I submitted it, I never learned which design he favored. Other in our cS community might know the timeline for when the flight was canceled.

From what I've been able to determine none of the other crew remember seeing my submissions.

I can announce that there are plans to release a limited edition set of the four designs as embroidered patches.

Liembo
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posted 02-08-2013 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a wait list for those? I am interested.

GoesTo11
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posted 02-09-2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liembo:
Is there a wait list for those? I am interested.

Interested here too

GoesTo11
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posted 02-09-2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, this thread reminds me that, in any of its variations, STS-101 is in my opinion the worst (official) crew patch ever.

"I know, guys! Let's have the Shuttle and ISS modules orbiting our names! How awesome would that look?!"

Cascader
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posted 02-09-2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cascader   Click Here to Email Cascader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People might want to check measurements of their 101 patches as I have checked my two.

I have an original crew, protruding wing version which measures 4.75x3.5" and a 101 flown crew protruding wing version which measures 4.75x3.25". Both of these are AB patches bought from Stewart Aviation at time of mission.


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