| Author | Topic:   Dragon Wings 2010-11 diecast space program | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 12-30-2011 03:22 PM         So, what would be your wishes for Dragon's 2012 space models?
 I'll go for a completion of manned rockets at 1/400 (Redstone, Atlas, Titan). If they want to do it at 1/72, then the Saturn IB and space shuttle - but I'm not sure that a) I can afford them and b) where to put them! Anything else on your wishlist? | 
	| jjknap Member
 Posts: 273From: Bourbonnais, IL USA
 Registered: Apr 2011
 |  posted 12-30-2011 04:14 PM         I would love to see Skylab in 1/72.
 I would also like to see the unmanned robots such as Viking and Voyager. | 
	| MB Member
 Posts: 155From: Olmsted Falls, Ohio  U.S.A.
 Registered: Jul 2005
 |  posted 12-30-2011 05:12 PM         I would really like to see them produce a series of unmanned vehicles as well (Viking, Cassini, Galileo, Voyager).  In particular I would love to see them create a Curiosity rover!
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	| Henk Boshuijer Member
 Posts: 450From: Netherlands
 Registered: May 2007
 |  posted 12-30-2011 06:11 PM         I really would like to see the Skylab 1/72 model (with the broken solar panel and the fix).
 It would be great to have this model as a cutaway version... | 
	| Daugherty54 Member
 Posts: 591From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted 12-30-2011 06:51 PM         Dang it I'd like to see a decently detailed 1/24th or larger lunar rover.  Code 3 rovers on eBay are priced from $750 to over $2000!  Get real!  Give me a lunar rover same scale as my Code 3 Apollo and I am happy!
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	| Ironman One Member
 Posts: 73From: Ormond Beach, FL USA
 Registered: Sep 2011
 |  posted 12-30-2011 07:29 PM         A diecast 1/72 scale Skylab would be real nice!, or a 4D Vision version of Skylab. Also the Gemini-Titan, Mercury Atlas and Saturn 1b in 1/72 to compliment the Saturn V and Mercury Redstone. However I'm already running out of room in my office with all the space models.
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	| lucspace Member
 Posts: 403From: Hilversum, The Netherlands
 Registered: Oct 2003
 |  posted 01-26-2012 01:11 PM         What I would love Dragon to do is some more Soviet/Russian stuff.
 A 1/200 or larger N-1 would interest a lot of model buffs that are not into resin kits, I guess. And a 1/32 Soyuz (T/TM/TMA/TMA-M) would be nice, too! | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 01-26-2012 02:23 PM         On Dragon Models USA's website, the 2012-2013 catalog is mentioned (release in March?) but when you download the catalog, it's the same old pdf file, even if they've changed the heading that says 2011-2012 (from 2010-2011). But there's nothing new... Disappointing.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 01-30-2012 01:59 PM         The 2012 Nuremberg International Toy Fair is this week- we'll see if Dragon puts up photos so that we can have a (eventual) sneak peek as to what's to come.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 02-06-2012 02:49 PM         Nothing new was posted/announced at the toy fair.
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	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42982From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-06-2012 03:03 PM         And Dragon Models USA will not have a booth at this year's American International Toy Fair in New York, Feb. 12-15.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 02-07-2012 02:09 PM         Should we be reading something into this? They have announced a lot of models over the last quarter, though.
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	| PeterO Member
 Posts: 399From: North Carolina
 Registered: Mar 2002
 |  posted 02-07-2012 05:43 PM         
 quote:No, just a simple business decision.  Trade shows are very expensive, so in this economy they may feel that the cost is not justified.Originally posted by cspg:
 Should we be reading something into this?
 
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 02-16-2012 07:37 AM         The 2012 catalog is available from here. No new announcements.
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	| CaptSpry Member
 Posts: 33From: San Diego, CA
 Registered: Feb 2012
 |  posted 02-16-2012 11:14 AM         I saw the 1/72 Hubble Telescope in the catalog, anyone have any idea when this will be coming out?   I would love to have one of these.
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	| jjknap Member
 Posts: 273From: Bourbonnais, IL USA
 Registered: Apr 2011
 |  posted 02-19-2012 10:22 AM         I really like doing business with The Flying Mule, but I have noticed that they have increased prices by $5 on just about all of the Dragon space models.  I know they have coupons every once in a while, but I hate having to wait for a coupon code when I want to add to my collection.
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	| jeffbassett Member
 Posts: 109From: Toledo
 Registered: Feb 2005
 |  posted 02-20-2012 05:42 PM         Try Pete's Collectibles, they have a limited number of items by Dragon but they have great prices on them all the time.
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	| GoesTo11 Member
 Posts: 1309From: Denver, CO
 Registered: Jun 2004
 |  posted 03-10-2012 08:47 PM         The Flying Mule now has the XB-70A AV-1 model in stock.  It apparently comes with two sets of wingtips, allowing you to display it with wings level (takeoff/landing) or canted down (low speed cruise), as well as gear up or down options.  Just ordered, WANT NOW.
 /cues Wagner  | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 03-11-2012 07:51 AM         Too cool!
  Ordered mine too (and the next one too). But everything is being held up so as to minimize the number of shipments (being slammed by the customs since the beginning of the year). | 
	| the clocks running Member
 Posts: 382From: Rochester, NY
 Registered: Jan 2012
 |  posted 03-11-2012 10:54 PM         I also have had a great experience purchasing Dragon products from The Flying Mule. I ordered an Apollo 15 CM and received a damaged model. I called customer service at The Flying Mule and they emailed me a UPS call tag immediately. This week I will receive the replacement model.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 03-12-2012 10:18 AM         
 quote:Originally posted by GoesTo11:
 The Flying Mule now has the XB-70A AV-1 model in stock.
 
 In Air & Space's latest special issue "Ultimate Aircraft", there's an in-flight photo of the XB-70 and the B-58. Neat. Can't wait to have Dragon's B-58. | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 03-22-2012 05:20 AM         The Bell X-1A is announced on Dragon Models USA website.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 04-11-2012 06:55 AM         
 quote:Mine arrived today. The fuselage was either not glued properly or we're supposed to do it ourselves. It's not broken, the two pieces fit perfectly and were obviously designed to be assembled (it's between the Air Force roundel and the "Force". No big deal, though but a bit weird and scary when I opened the box!Originally posted by GoesTo11:
 The Flying Mule now has the XB-70A AV-1 model in stock.
 
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	| JLR1 Member
 Posts: 63From: Cincinnati, OH
 Registered: Oct 2008
 |  posted 04-11-2012 12:33 PM         Interesting ... mine came in two pieces also, and I assumed it was broken and was told to return it. The new one came, all in once piece!
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	| Jay Chladek Member
 Posts: 2272From: Bellevue, NE, USA
 Registered: Aug 2007
 |  posted 04-12-2012 05:12 PM         I did some checking over at HLJ.com and it looks like in Dragon's pre-built line they are coming out with a 1/144 SR-71 and U-2R. Granted these aren't space per se, but they are about as high performance aircraft as one can get. Here's hoping they add these to the unbuilt kit line as well (the U-2R will be easier to store on display anyway given its long wings).
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	| GoesTo11 Member
 Posts: 1309From: Denver, CO
 Registered: Jun 2004
 |  posted 04-12-2012 09:12 PM         
 quote:Originally posted by JLR1:
 Interesting ... mine came in two pieces also, and I assumed it was broken and was told to return it. The new one came, all in once piece!
 
 My XB-70 arrived intact...unlike my Dragon 1:400 Challenger stack, which took not one but two replacements to finally get here undamaged.  And they only had to survive the transit from California to Colorado. As I mentioned on the 1:400 Dragon Shuttle  Missions thread, anecdotal evidence both here and on a couple other forums suggests that Dragon have had quality-control issues of late.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 04-13-2012 04:08 AM         
 quote:Originally posted by GoesTo11:
 My XB-70 arrived intact...unlike my Dragon 1:400 Challenger stack, which took not one but two replacements to finally get here undamaged.  And they only had to survive the transit from California to Colorado
 
 Regarding the XB-70 I'm not sure it's a question of transit but rather too little (or none) glue has been applied. When I looked at the box, the model looked perfectly fine, it's when I opened the box that the two fuselage parts came apart. The quality control issues seems to be the problem (and the result for the lack of new models announcements?).
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 04-13-2012 04:10 AM         
 quote:Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
 I did some checking over at HLJ.com and it looks like in Dragon's pre-built line they are coming out with a 1/144 SR-71 and U-2R.
 
 The U-2R has been announced last December (model #51017) but I don't think they'll be able to match Century Wings 1/72 SR-71s, except for the retail price that is. But 1/144 is way much better than their previously released 1/400 models. | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 04-13-2012 03:10 PM         
 quote:That one is a model kit (it has a DRA number), it's not a pre-built kit (DRW Dragon Wings).Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
 I did some checking over at HLJ.com and it looks like in Dragon's pre-built line they are coming out with a 1/144 SR-71
 
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	| GoesTo11 Member
 Posts: 1309From: Denver, CO
 Registered: Jun 2004
 |  posted 05-01-2012 09:31 PM         I received my 1:200 XB-70 #2 and 1:144 X-15A-2 today (Given recent Dragon QC issues, I feel like I should mention that both were intact and complete.) As indicated in the picture earlier in the thread, the second XB-70 model features wingtips canted down at a more extreme angle than the first, although like the earlier model you have the option of displaying it with tips level and gear up or down.
 The X-15A-2's fuselage is properly longer than the earlier #1 and #3 models, and features the oval windows as illustrated. I really can't speak to the precise accuracy of the markings, but overall these are two little gems. | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 05-02-2012 07:59 AM         Good to know. Mine are held hostage by the Swiss customs...
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	| GoesTo11 Member
 Posts: 1309From: Denver, CO
 Registered: Jun 2004
 |  posted 05-02-2012 07:20 PM         Also, for those of you (like me) who care about such things, the box art for the XB-70 calls it "XB-70 Valkyrie AV-1 NASA."  The original announcement art depicted "AV-1 Prototype #2," which was rather confusing to anyone even passingly familiar with the aircraft.
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	| rmacd New Member
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 |  posted 05-06-2012 02:36 PM         Just post a few ideas of what you would want to see Dragon release.  My list:
 Any other ideas? Thoughts?Launch Complex 39 with shuttle launch tower and base: 1/400
VAB: 1/400
Attachable/detachable tailcone so you could put various different orbiters on the 747
1/200 space shuttle (with your choice of orbiter Columbia, Challenger, Discovery, Atlantis and Endeavour)
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 05-07-2012 07:55 AM         The shuttle at 1/200 is/was planned with Endeavour and Enterprise, both part of their Legends of Aviation 2010-2011 collection.
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	| rmacd New Member
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 |  posted 05-07-2012 01:35 PM         When is the 1/200 coming out? This is the first I heard of it.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 05-09-2012 02:25 PM         I don't know. The only model that came out at 1:200 is the XB-70.
 On edit: the Avro Vulcan came out. And also the YB-49 and XB-35, but both were not listed in their catalog. | 
	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 05-09-2012 02:28 PM         All models that "disappeared" from the Flying Mule have made their way back (except for the KC-10 + B-1B, #56344).
 The Flying Mule also has a new X-1:   Dragon Models 1:144 Warbirds 51038Bell X-1E Display Model
 USAF, #48-1384, Jean Ziegler, Muroc Army Air Field, CA (Edwards AFB), Maiden Flight, February 14th 1953, 2-Piece Set.
 Edit. No it's a typo. It's the previously announced X-1A. | 
	| arjuna unregistered
 |  posted 05-12-2012 12:17 AM     
 quote:Originally posted by rmacd:
 Just post a few ideas of what you would want to see Dragon release.  Any other ideas? Thoughts?
 
 My wishlist: Shenzhou with Tiangong module in 1:72
Vostok spacecraft in 1:72
Vostok-K rocket in 1:400
Mercury-Redstone rocket in 1:400
Mercury-Atlas rocket in 1:400
Gemini Titan rocket in 1:400
Launch Complex 39 with Saturn V launch tower and base in 1:400
An improved Saturn V in 1:400 (current version lacks precise detail relative to other newer models in the Dragon line)
 I would also add the Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon capsule in 400/72, but SpaceX may have a problem with that. Ok, and as long as I'm wishing, a 1:72 Skylab.
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	| robert_l Member
 Posts: 168From: Dundee,Scotland
 Registered: Jul 2008
 |  posted 05-12-2012 08:02 AM         I would love a 1/400 or 1/200 scale launch complex 39 with Saturn V  pad crawler and VAB! Perhaps the VAB could be a card construction model which could come with the box.
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	| cspg Member
 Posts: 6210From: Geneva, Switzerland
 Registered: May 2006
 |  posted 05-17-2012 06:46 AM         In addition to arjuna's list:
 For SR-71 buffs, a version at 1/144 is announced.Proton at 1/400
Delta IV at 1/400
Energyia at 1/400
N-1 at 1/400
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