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JF27
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posted 07-02-2011 10:15 PM
   
Anyone knows if the DM 52001 Space Shuttle Orbiter "Endeavour" Final Flight 2010 will be full stack (Orbiter + SRB + ET) or it will only be the space shuttle? |
cspg
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posted 07-06-2011 02:48 PM
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For airplanes fans, the YB-49 Flying Wing is announced, a previously unannounced model.
Retail is $35 (okay, 34.99) with a December planned release (presumably earlier). Same thing for the XB-70. |
cspg
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posted 07-26-2011 01:50 AM
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It's coming, it's coming, it's coming: the XB-70!
I hope that the model won't have the "wing tips" folded as illustrated... |
Tykeanaut
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posted 07-26-2011 01:41 PM
I'm sure I saw an Atlantis final flight model today, could that be correct? Anyhow it was priced at £45.00 Seems pricey? |
cspg
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posted 07-26-2011 02:37 PM
From Dragon? The only existing model of Atlantis is this one: NASA, "Atlantis", Launch Configuration (DM-56185 Dragon Models 1:400).Their 1:144 model doesn't seem to be related to any orbiter even though the "box" has Atlantis as image. |
GoesTo11
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posted 08-12-2011 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by Tykeanaut:
I'm sure I saw an Atlantis final flight model today, could that be correct? Anyhow it was priced at £45.00 Seems pricey?
I have Dragon's 1:400 Atlantis launch stack, DM-56185, in packaging that says "Atlantis Final Flight STS-132." I can't recall how long ago I bought it (not more than a year or so), but the packaging matches their older space series releases as opposed to the current windowed boxes. Paid US$49.99. |
cspg
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posted 08-14-2011 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by cspg:
I hope that the model won't have the "wing tips" folded as illustrated...
The latest picture is much better: even though the "wings tips" are slightly folded.AV-1 Test Flight? Different versions to come like the X-1? |
PeterO
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posted 08-14-2011 05:14 AM
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AV-1 Test Flight? Different versions to come like the X-1?
You can bet on it, since Dragon never produces just one of any given aircraft type. I can envision a version with landing gear down, canopy in subsonic position and wingtips level, and one with gear up, canopy in supersonic position and wingtips at the full down 60 degree angle. There was also a period in the early flights of AV-1 where the paint was severely chipped, and I can picture Dragon modeling those flights too. AV-1 was the first XB-70, Air Vehicle 1. AV-2's wings had a 5 degree dihedral, so it would require different tooling.
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cspg
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posted 08-15-2011 01:33 AM
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You can bet on it, since Dragon never produces just one of any given aircraft type.
That's what I've seen with their 1:400 models but not (yet) with their 1:200 models. This will require a lot of shelf place!. Edit: there are two versions of the Avro Vulcan at 1:200. |
Daugherty54
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posted 08-30-2011 12:16 AM
I like the detail on the Dragon 1/72 Apollo but I really wish it was a bit larger. I mounted the Apollo 7 command and service module as shown below and display it on an easel. The photo was mounted to a plaque made from cheap fiberboard, I routed the edges and sprayed a neutral gray. I like it better than the cheap plastic base. Also the picture was taken from Apollo 7 during the mission. Now if I can get Walt Cunningham to autograph it as Spacefest...  |
cspg
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posted 09-05-2011 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by cspg:
For airplanes fans, the YB-49 Flying Wing is announced, a previously unannounced model.
And another flying wing, the XB-35!I wonder if they'll produce the B-36. It flew once to Europe and it was in Geneva in 1955 (see this page and scroll down the page, there's an aerial view). |
GoesTo11
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posted 09-05-2011 03:18 PM
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but the re-visitation of "what-if" aircraft like the B-36 and XB-35 makes me wonder how history would have been different if Britain had fallen in 1940 or '41.Would we (America) really have built hundreds or thousands of these ridiculous six-prop-driven mega-bombers and sent them across the Atlantic to maybe land a few tons of explosives on Hitler's Europe? To what end? These planes were flights of fancy. That's all. |
mikej
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posted 09-05-2011 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Would we (America) really have built hundreds or thousands of these ridiculous six-prop-driven mega-bombers [B-36s] and sent them across the Atlantic to maybe land a few tons of explosives on Hitler's Europe?
Actually, America did build nearly 400 of the B-36s and did fly them over oceans (although I believe I've read that the B-36 was the only U.S. bomber to never drop a bomb in anger).Eventually the B-36's piston engines were augmented with four jet engines (the same engines used by the B-47), giving rise to the phrase "six turning and four burning." |
cspg
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posted 09-06-2011 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
These planes were flights of fancy. That's all.
But they're awesome!  And in the category "flights of fancy", one could add the space shuttle. |
cspg
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posted 09-09-2011 02:30 PM
The Grumman X-29 is now announced. |
Bill Hunt
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posted 09-09-2011 05:30 PM
Has Dragon said anything about their ISS and Mir models, which are still listed in their 2011-2012 catalog? I'm dying for an ISS in scale with their 1/400 shuttles.I wonder if they'll start doing Scaled/Virgin craft and SpaceX launches and capsules too. |
PeterO
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posted 09-09-2011 06:56 PM
Dragon has released another version of their two-in-one 1/144 X-1, Bell X-1 Final Flight, May 12th 1950, 2-Piece Set |
cspg
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posted 09-10-2011 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by Bill Hunt:
Has Dragon said anything about their ISS and Mir models, which are still listed in their 2011-2012 catalog?
Hence a need for an updated catalog. I don't need model numbers and precise release dates, just a list of what's in the works. And if they could do the same with their Warbirds collection, even better. |
Daugherty54
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posted 10-03-2011 12:27 AM
I just recently assembled my Lunar Approach model from the prebuilt kit. I am very impressed with it, except for the cheap stand. Has anyone acquired the Apollo 10 model with the LM inside? It looks like a nice set. |
KAPTEC
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posted 10-03-2011 02:32 PM
I got an Apollo X set. And it's nice. At least for me. It reminds me on those 1969's days... |
GoesTo11
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posted 10-03-2011 04:37 PM
I have all the recent Dragon 1:72 Apollo releases except the Apollo 7 CSM (redundant as I already had Apollo 8), and the Apollo 9 set (didn't see the point without a LM).The Apollo 10 set might be my favorite of the bunch...I think of its appearance as like a contractor model "for the rest of us."  |
jjknap
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posted 10-03-2011 05:24 PM
The Apollo 10 is my favorite as well. I have Lunar Approach and the Apollo 11 landing. |
andrewcli
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posted 10-03-2011 05:40 PM
So far, the Apollo X model is my favorite too.I hope that for the Apollo 13 model coming in December, they will do a "lunar approach" configuration with the damaged SM, rather than the CSM only configuration as listed on their website. |
Daugherty54
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posted 10-03-2011 08:25 PM
I agree - the Apollo 13 complete with the damaged SM would be a must have for me. I hope that they build it this way or else it just another Lunar Approach model. |
p51
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posted 10-03-2011 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by PeterO:
You can bet on it, since Dragon never produces just one of any given aircraft type.
I can’t help but wonder if they’d do a ‘diorama” of the ill-fated formation GE photo flight (with F-4, F-5, T-38 AND F-104), right before the crash with the F-104N that killed Walker and Cross. |
Ironman One
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posted 10-15-2011 06:26 PM
I hope they make a 1/72 scale Gemini-Titan and a Atlas-Agena. Also a Gemini spacecraft with an Agena target vehicle (Gemini 8). Maybe a USAF Gemini-MOL would be nice. I'd buy them all! |
Ironman One
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posted 10-30-2011 07:12 PM
I would like to see Dragon make the Sea King Helicopter No. 66 with Apollo Spacecraft in 1/72 scale. (Apollo 11). Maybe with a diorama similar to the Corgi model sometime ago. |
cspg
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posted 11-02-2011 07:10 AM
I was hoping for this model, the Douglas X-3 Stiletto. |
Orthon
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posted 11-02-2011 07:02 PM
Where is the N1 Russian N1 super rocket to go alongside the Saturn V? Now THAT would be great! |
cspg
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posted 11-03-2011 03:06 AM
On page 54 of Direction-Space! there's a picture taken from the hallway of the Baikonur city museum. The picture shows models of the Buran/Energyia shuttle next to the US space shuttle. The Buran/Energyia stack is really, really neat. Even more so alongside the US space shuttle. |
OLDIE
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posted 11-09-2011 07:38 AM
Good news for U.K. residents. A new ModelZone shop has just opened in Portsmouth. Guess what? They are stocking Dragon Wings models. I bought a Delta II yesterday for £29.99. Presumably other ModelZone shops are also stocking them also.
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spacefan JC
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posted 11-09-2011 07:48 AM
Great! I'm in Portsmouth. I have been emailing the Portsmouth area model shops recently asking for their rocket range, and there isn't much... but this could be good!This could start costing me!
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cycleroadie
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posted 12-12-2011 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by cspg:
The Grumman X-29 is now announced.
This hit the shores Friday so your local supplier/shop will have in stock soon. |
cspg
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posted 12-12-2011 01:23 PM
If diecast models tend to have their plastic model kit counterpart, is the reverse true? On Dragon's website there are announcements, "feature posters", which then appear as cyber-hobby.com plastic kits. Any chance to see those as diecasts (the C-141 and the just announced Tu-95 come to mind)? |
Jay Chladek
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posted 12-12-2011 01:28 PM
The C-141 and Bears are a little different. While some of the advertisements say "all new tooling" these kits are really reissues from Dragon's earliest days in the late 1980s (they also did a B-52 series in 1/200 with one of them being a 1/200 NB-52 with X-15A-2 and Pegasus launcher). The current stuff is made from a common set of CAD files when those two kits came out at a time when CAD was still a very new thing and they were made with more old school tooling techniques. As such, I don't know if it is possible to plug in the data.That is not to say Dragon couldn't take a built model and get the proper data points off of it, but it would be just as expensive as starting from scratch. |
cspg
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posted 12-12-2011 01:46 PM
Okay. Both would fit within their Legends of Aviation series, though. Regarding the C-141, since they've produced the C-5, C-130 and soon the C-17, it would fit in. Regarding Soviet airplanes, it seems to me that they are under-represented &mdah; because there's no large market for those? (And Soviet fighters are more likely to be produced than bombers, it would seem.) |
cspg
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posted 12-21-2011 07:13 AM
Not space-related but the U-2R has been announced: DM-51017 1/144 Lockheed U-2R "Dragon Lady" 9 RW USAF. |
Gilbert
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posted 12-27-2011 01:07 PM
As I placed my Titan IIIC MOL beside the Shuttles, Apollo Saturn V's, the Skylab Saturn, and the Saturn 1B I realized 1/400th scale versions of a Gemini Titan, a Mercury Atlas, and a Mercury Redstone in the same scale would be awesome. The Mercury and Gemini rockets would be tiny but Dragon already has the basic Gemini design in the Titan MOL. They could market the three as one set and I'm sure collectors would love it. It would be great to have all these launch vehicles in a uniform scale. |
cspg
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posted 12-27-2011 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Gilbert:
It would be great to have all these launch vehicles in a uniform scale.
I agree. Now the question is will these vehicles come at 1/72, 1/400 or both? The Mercury Redstone is planned at 1/72 and some are expecting the Atlas and Titan to follow. I wonder if they will ever come out at 1/400. The Redstone at 1/400 will be about 6.4cm (2.5 in) long...But Dragon has come up with a F-16 at that scale (Dragon Model #56340) and it's not that bad! |
cspg
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posted 12-29-2011 08:20 AM
And X-70 Valkyrie no. 2 is announced. |
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