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cspg
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posted 04-01-2010 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the Flying Mule newsletter:
With the exception of Dragon's Saturn V Rocket, which was rereleased last year, space-themed diecast models have recently been hard to come by. Fortunately for NASA fans, that's all about to change with the upcoming April rerelease of Dragon's Shuttle/747 set. Rumor has it that Dragon will also be rereleasing its popular Shuttle/Booster and set -- this model was prominently displayed at Dragon's booth at the Nuremberg Toy and Hobby show. Both sets are 1:400 scale, big enough to be displayed prominently but small enough to keep from occupying a large amount of space.

With the shuttle program nearing its end, we look forward to commemorating more than five decades of NASA's history with models that feature the shuttle in various configurations -- piggyback, orbit, international docking and more. Keep following our newsletter for more information and for the official word on Dragon's diecast space program, which will soon include a release of the Apollo and Soyuz command modules in 1:72 scale.

That being said, I'd love to hear from cS members about the Shuttle/747 set.

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posted 04-01-2010 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I own every iteration of the Dragon Wings NASA series. In my opinion, they are all worth every penny. I wish Dragon would release a full stack shuttle on the launching pad similar to the 1/500th version Herpa released a couple of years ago. That would be great.

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posted 04-02-2010 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My point is: has anyone seen a photo of a Shuttle Carrier Aircraft that looks like the one in Dragon Wings' re-release?

I'd love to have space-related models but if markings are that different from the real thing, what's the point?

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I think I own all the space related Dragon models (and all their Swissair planes but it's another story), their value for money is impressive. Even though I'm waiting for my Bandai Saturn 1:144, the announcement we may have an ASTP combo in 1/72 is just perfect, though it was already made in 08/09. I just hope they'll do it for good this time, and hopefully produce a Vostok too, why not for the 1961-2011 anniversary...

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posted 04-07-2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know to what extent this new addition differs from the Saturn V Apollo 11, though: Apollo 13 40th Anniversary Saturn V.

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Saw that yesterday... Can't be sure, but it looks like the only differences are the printed base and the packaging.

Looks like just an easy money-maker to me. I'd have loved to see Dragon release a 1:72 CSM/LM stack...that would seem a better fit for the Apollo 13 anniversary.

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posted 04-08-2010 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cspg:
I'd love to have space-related models but if markings are that different from the real thing, what's the point?

The original 747 #905 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft came from American Airlines, so the markings on the model are correct. Thanks to Dennis Jenkins for clearing this up.

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posted 04-10-2010 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish someone like Dragon would do a ISS kit. It'd be nice to have a small, affordable desk replica of the space station that didn't require the usual model construction and painting.

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posted 04-10-2010 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Add Mercury-Redstone, Mercury-Atlas, Gemini-Atlas, Gemini-Titan, Saturn 1B, Vostok (Gagarin), Soyuz (current), Salyut, Skylab, Mir, Energya-Buran and presumably a few more (human spaceflight related), and I'm interested!

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posted 04-28-2010 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stumbled across this today:
  • A-2 Soyuz Rocket Diecast Model
    Soviet Space Program, "Soyuz 1"
    DM-56240 Dragon Models 1:400
  • A-2 Voskhod Rocket Diecast Model
    Soviet Space Program, "Voskhod 1"
    DM-56239 Dragon Models 1:400
  • Apollo CSM Diecast Model
    NASA, "Apollo 11", Launch July 16th, 1969
    DM-50375 Dragon Models 1:72
  • Apollo CSM Diecast Model
    NASA, "Apollo 13", Launch April 11th, 1970
    DM-50376 Dragon Models 1:72
  • Apollo CSM Diecast Model
    NASA, "Apollo 7", Launch October 11th, 1968
    DM-50374 Dragon Models 1:72
  • Delta II Rocket Diecast Model
    DM-56238 Dragon Models 1:400
  • Delta Rocket Diecast Model
    DM-56243 Dragon Models 1:400
  • Diecast Model "Apollo-Soyuz", July 1975
    DM-50370 Dragon Models 1:72
No pics yet, but looks like a great collection.

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posted 04-28-2010 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeffbassett   Click Here to Email jeffbassett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found a few more listings:
    Rockets
  • DRW-56111 1/400 Apollo 11 - Saturn V Rocket (40th Anniversary)
  • DRW-56215 1/400 Saturn V Apollo 13 "40th Anniversary"
  • DRW-56227 1/400 Saturn IB (SkyLab 2, AS-206)
  • DRW-56216 1/400 Saturn V in configuration of Skylab launch
  • DRW-56242 1/400 Saturn IB
  • DRW-56228 1/400 Titan IIIC (modified Titan II with 2 solid rocket strap-on)
  • DRW-56237 1/400 Delta
  • DRW-56232 1/400 Titan IIIC MOL
  • DRW-56238 1/400 Delta II
  • DRW-56233 1/400 Titan IIID
  • DRW-56243 1/400 Delta II (2nd)
  • DRW-56234 1/400 Titan IIIE with Centaur-D-1T upper-stage
  • DRW-56235 1/400 Titan IV (Titan II core, Centuar-G upper stage, and two solid rocket strap-on)
  • DRW-56240 1/400 A2 Soyuz
  • DRW-56236 1/400 Titan IV-B with 56' "Cassini" Shroud
  • DRW-56239 1/400 A2 Voskhod

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posted 04-28-2010 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also:
  • NASA, "Discovery", DM-56184 Dragon Models 1:400
  • NASA, "Challenger", DM-56214 Dragon Models 1:400
  • NASA, "Atlantis", w/Solid Rocket Boosters
    DM-56185 Dragon Models 1:400
  • NASA, "Columbia", w/Solid Rocket Boosters

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posted 05-18-2010 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaaaaaaargh! Two more! (Atlas X-37 and H-2)!

Edit: Nope. That would be three. There's the Atlas AND the X-37. Reference:

Dragon Models Aerospace Program 56246
ULA Atlas V Rocket Diecast Model
USAF, "OTV-1", Launch April 22nd, 2010

Dragon Models Aerospace Program 50377
Boeing X-37B Diecast Model
USAF, "OTV-1", Launch April 11th, 1970

[Strange date - will inquire about this; info gathered from The Flying Mule.]
Edit: It's a typo. It will be corrected.

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posted 05-21-2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In addition to the H-2B rocket, two more have been added:

DRW-50378 1/72 Apollo 8 with accessories
DRW-50379 1/72 Apollo 9 with accessories
DRW-56250 1/400 H-IIB Rocket

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posted 05-22-2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these fully painted, or are they diecast and you paint them? The 1/72nd CSMs look interesting.

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posted 05-22-2010 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I know, Dragon only produces finished display models... no painting or other finishing required.

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posted 05-23-2010 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe the Dragon Wings folks have read this thread. Here's one more:

DRW-56230 1/400 Ariane 5

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Do these rockets disassemble into there various stages? I can't tell from the photo, but I'm guessing that they do not?

If not it's too bad as I love the Saturn V in Dragons Can.do line which separates into its stages.

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posted 05-31-2010 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Saturn V stages can be disassembled. I don't know about the other models.

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posted 06-07-2010 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pictures of Space Shuttle Endeavour (Dragon Model 56186) and Saturn V/Skylab (Dragon Model 56216) and Saturn IB (Dragon Model 56227) are available from Dragon Models' website.

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Maybe the Dragon Wings folks have read this thread

They may well have. The Flying Mule page for the Enterprise/SCA model now shows the orbiter with its correct (original) markings.

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posted 06-17-2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking forward to it!

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posted 06-21-2010 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding the Enterprise/747 SCA model (DW-56183):

Great looking model. Very pleased with it.

Due to its small size, extreme care required to handle the model, though.

  • I didn't even try to remove the 747 undercarriage (instructions say you can if you want to display the model on its stand) because undercarriage is way, way too fragile.

  • Also the shuttle underbelly "holes" do not match precisely the 747's attach pins- they're off my 1+ mm or so... You can still attach the shuttle to the 747 by slightly bending the nosewheel pin forward a bit. Not something you would want to repeat often (and esthetically speaking, it could look better).

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posted 06-30-2010 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone received any of the new releases announced by Dragon earlier this year? Apollo 13, Apollo 7, etc.

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Not yet. Ordered the Apollo 7 model.

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posted 06-30-2010 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Apollo 7 is planned for this month, A11 for August and A13 for September- all subject to change (ie.delay).

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I received the Saturn V Apollo 13 model yesterday. I have not opened the package to remove the model yet. But the model comes in stages and appears to be similar to the previous release of the Saturn V.

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If the Dragon folks read this thread, why not have:
  • an aeronautics program, with X-1 to X-15 and lifting bodies?
  • a NASA aircraft program (B-52, T-38, Super Guppy, F-104, SR-71, U-2/ER-2)? That would be cool.
  • an experimental aircraft program? I could finally have a XB-70 model!

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posted 07-01-2010 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if there are any differences in the Apollo 13 model vs. the Apollo 11, other than the box. I agree with cspg 100%; diecast X-1, X-15, lifting body, and XB-70 models would be awesome.

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As something of a die-cast buff myself, I've long wondered why such historically significant (and aesthetically striking) aircraft as the X-1, X-15, YF-12/SR-71, and the XB-70 are so under-represented in the die-cast field.

Just as an example, there must be hundreds of die-cast variations of Mustangs and Spitfires on the current market. Not to sell those great aircraft short, but come on. Nobody can give us a 1:48 X-15???

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posted 07-01-2010 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Herpa Wings has an excellent, very high quality diecast SR-71. I paid around $45 for it about a year ago. They have a dual canopy trainer version in addition to the one I have.

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Just as an example, there must be hundreds of die-cast variations of Mustangs and Spitfires on the current market. Not to sell those great aircraft short, but come on. Nobody can give us a 1:48 X-15???
My complaint for years, but your remark contains the seeds of its own answer. Diecast molds are EXPENSIVE and it makes much more sense for a company to make a P-51, say, knowing they can issue it in dozens of different liveries, than an X-15, which can't be made in more than a couple of variations.

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Fair point. That rationale would also explain the dearth of SR-71s, and of die-cast spacecraft and X-planes in general.

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I've asked myself the following question, as I was looking at F-4 models: if you're interested in one particular model, say the P-51, would you buy (if you can) all different liveries? If not which one do you choose? I find it strange to have so many liveries.
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That rationale would also explain the dearth of SR-71s, and of die-cast spacecraft and X-planes in general.
Two models (SR-71A and B) are due this summer from Century Wings, for $150... Personally the Postage Stamp diecast SR-71 model for $9 (!) is all I need.

Corgi's NB-52 with X-15 is a really neat model- it was 30% off about 10 days ago. Makes you wonder if the B-52 is a huge airplane, the X-15 ridiculously small or both. At 1:144, it's big but great.

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Has any one seen any pictures of any of the Dragon Wings Apollo Command and Service Module (CSM) models?

If so can you provide a link, I am very interested to see what these look like.

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posted 07-08-2010 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of multiple liveries from diecast molds, I never understood why Model Power didn't issue all the shuttle orbiters from their 1/300th scale 'Endeavour' mold. It is a very nice inexpensive model, and most collectors would have purchased all variations. I know I would have.

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Dragon Models folks are READING this thread. The web page has a "Legend of Aviation 2010-2011" collection with a SR-71 and... a XB-70!

There's the X-1, X-15, U-2, ER-1 and more. Catalog can be downloaded from here.

Same website for their space program: Mercury and Gemini capsule and Hubble (1:72); Mir, ISS, Shuttle with Hubble (1:400). They've added the Long March rocket.

There are a couple of 1:6 action figures too.

I've been told that Dragon actually produces models provided that pre-orders are high enough... I need to investigate this.

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posted 07-09-2010 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Dragon's planned release of a B58 Hustler is great news also. They must be reading our posts, if not our minds.

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posted 07-09-2010 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed.

I've inquired about the typo regarding Apollo 11 CSM and lunar rover vehicle...

I've also asked why there was no Skylab - after all, they're producing a Saturn V in Skylab configuration launch.


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