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Tom
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posted 04-08-2001 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone hear about a new book coming out to coincide with the 20th anniversary of the Space Shuttle's first mission?

Supposedly, it covers the first 100 flights flown by the shuttle.

tegwilym
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posted 04-08-2001 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are probably thinking of Space Shuttle: The History of the National Space Transportation System The First 100 Missions by Dennis Jenkins.

I don't think it has been released yet, but I have my order in for it already!

Tom
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posted 04-08-2001 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone who is interested in the Space Shuttle program should get a copy of Dennis Jenkins new book called "Space Shuttle-The First 100 Missions".

Everything you wanted to know (or review) about the shuttle is there. It has many pictures including a section of color photos.

All 100 mission patches are shown in color as well as the patches of missions that were scheduled to fly in 1986 after Challenger.

Well worth the $35.

music_space
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posted 03-10-2011 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To accompany the last flights of the Shuttle, I'm reading again Shuttle-related books, including Dennis Jenkins' "Space Shuttle - The History of Developing the National Space Transportatation System - The Beginning through STS-75".

Remarkably self-published in 1996 as a quality glazed-paper, hard-cover book (I got it at the Skunkworks boutique in 1999 for 40$), the genesis of the STS is very well covered, with comprehensive reviews of all early vehicular concepts technologically important for the STS: lifting body programs, thermal protection test programs, partially- and totally-recoverable concepts, etc.

Jenkins is obviously engineering-inclined. Do we know more about him?

Excellent book!

GoesTo11
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posted 09-08-2011 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought I'd re-visit this topic. Does anyone know if a final revision of Jenkins' (in my opinion definitive) shuttle book is still on track, who the publisher/distributor might be, or when we might see it?

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posted 09-27-2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Plane Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jenkins shuttle history is still on track. It is expected to be a 3 volume set which should be available not long after the last orbiter is delivered to its museum. He wants to include the delivery of each, just to make the books complete.

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posted 09-27-2011 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that's rather mixed news. I'm excited that the final edition is still in the works (as a 3-volume set, no less!), but I'm a bit ambivalent about Dennis' plans to publish after the museum delivery of the last orbiter.

At the least, this means we may not see it for years yet. I don't want to lurch off-topic, so I'll just say that I simply don't have much faith that all this (museum construction, delivery and display) is going to come off smoothly or expeditiously. While Dennis' desire to "close the circle" is admirable, I hope he's not too wedded to the idea.

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posted 10-01-2011 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps he set the timing to write and thoroughly proof check the two new volumes of material. This work has earned the descriptor of "definitive". The only shortfall ever mentioned was that the mission by mission descriptions were not developed as much as they could have been (and of course more color mission pics!).

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posted 10-06-2011 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for herranzc   Click Here to Email herranzc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be a good idea for the publishers to issue the three volumes as a series as the content is delivered by Jenkins, and so the third one could wait to include everything that is happening at the end of the program (not just the museum part, but also the dismantling of launch pads and other ground infrastructure, for example). It would make a great companion series to the no less expected three part series 'The Apollo Program: 3000 Days to the Moon' by David Baker.

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posted 03-03-2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by X-Plane Fan:
Jenkins shuttle history is still on track.
Any updates on a publication date?

GoesTo11
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posted 03-03-2013 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seconded. Would really like to know where Dennis is at with this.

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posted 03-04-2013 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Seconded. Would really like to know where Dennis is at with this.
All you needed was to ask!

From Dennis Jenkins (3/4/2013):

I am busily working on the new book, but it is taking longer than expected primarily because I am constantly finding more things I want to cover, and real-life keeps getting in the way (read, making a living). I am still hoping to have it available sometime this year (probably later rather than sooner), but I am more concerned with getting it correct than meeting any particular schedule. Current planning shows a three-volume boxed set totaling about 1,500 pages, so it will not be cheap. But hopefully it will be interesting to everybody...

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posted 03-05-2013 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As many of you probably know, there have been three publications of this book, the first covering through flight 50, the second through flight 75, and the third through flight 100.

What many may not know is that Mr Jenkins wrote an earlier edition covering through flight 25 (51-L). It was published by Aerofax as Datagraph 5 - Rockwell International Space Shuttle. ISBN is 0-942548-15-9, 72 pages in length.

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posted 03-05-2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you can find it, its worth getting the publication above. A very nice little addition to my collection when I got it.

sev8n
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posted 01-30-2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wishful bump...

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posted 03-08-2014 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Seconded. Would really like to know where Dennis is at with this.

quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
All you needed was to ask!

It's been a year since the last update, is there anything new to report? Really looking forward to this book/set.

cspg
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posted 03-09-2014 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Email sent to Dennis Jenkins. Will keep you posted.

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posted 03-10-2014 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a reply from Dennis Jenkins.

His day job is keeping him too busy. He's making progress with four chapters left to do but as he wrote "...although that is slightly overstating the case since then I have to read them, smooth them, etc. And then lay them out and make them into a book. I keep kidding myself that I am going to be done writing by June, but it is already March..."

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posted 03-10-2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the update. I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

cspg
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posted 06-25-2015 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got in touch with Dennis Jenkins about the new edition of his book. Here is his reply:
Working on it as we speak. In fact, I took last week off from the day-job just to proof the first two volumes, which are complete (excepting the index, which cannot be done until all three volumes are finished). Volume 3 (missions) is mostly (~75%) written and I'll start selecting art and laying it out in the next few weeks while I finish writing a few sections.

Current plan is still 1,500 pages, three-volume box set, about a million words and 5,000 photos/illustrations.

So... I am hoping by the end of the year, but the day job keeps getting in the way (NASA has recently given me ET-94 for the OV-105 display, so now I need to figure out how to restore it and move it from New Orleans to Los Angeles ...all by the end of the year also). Still, based on the progress so far this year, there is hope the book will be finished, at long, long last.

David C
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posted 06-25-2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm happy to wait until Dennis is satisfied with it. I know he'll do a great job and it will be worth it. Quality takes time.

lucspace
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posted 06-25-2015 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good to hear about the progress being made! I have been looking forward to this definitive Jenkins work since 2011, so I'll manage hanging in there for a bit longer...

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posted 06-25-2015 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the first edition to that book and was blown away when I first saw it.

I can't wait to see what he does with a version that covers the entire STS program!

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posted 06-25-2015 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacenerd01   Click Here to Email spacenerd01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear that Dennis is closing in on the STS set. We all look forward to seeing the volumes.

(By the way, Dennis if you're reading this, next time you are at the Hazy Center, please feel free to swing by the archives... we haven't seen you in a long time. — Mark)

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posted 06-26-2015 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like another book I need to reserve funds for!

sev8n
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posted 07-02-2015 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sev8n     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the update.

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posted 01-04-2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Latest news from Dennis regarding the book: He's writing the last three chapters and sincerely hopes to have everything sent to the printers in June, provided everything goes well moving the ET-94 this spring.

Update: The book(s) is (are) planned for November 2016. See: here.

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posted 01-12-2016 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merkaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the news. Looking so much forward to the book.

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