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DavidH
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posted 03-07-2014 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the US Space & Rocket Center Newsletter:
It's a First! USSRC Launches 60-Day Crowdfunding Campaign for New Exhibit

The U.S. Space & Rocket Center Foundation recently launched a fundraising campaign on Indiegogo, an international crowdfunding site, to raise $70,000 to begin installation of a Gulfstream II (G-II) Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA) in Rocket Center’s Shuttle Park. This marks the first time the Center has used crowdfunding in a fundraising campaign and we need your help to make it successful!

The G-II aircraft, which bears the tail number N945NA, will be a museum exhibition – to include access to the interior of the aircraft – and an immersive classroom for our nearly 600,000 annual visitors and for trainees in our Space Camp, Aviation Challenge Camp and Robotics Camp STEM education programs. The project is segmented into two major phases, with phase two including plans for a large outdoor amphitheater. The current Indiegogo campaign will fund a portion of phase one and will pay for site preparation and onsite installation of the aircraft, which is currently being housed at Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport.

Every donation is helpful! Give $5 or $5,000 and help us land this authentic NASA Shuttle Training Aircraft at the U.S. Space & Rocket Center! For more information about the aircraft, the fundraising project and the free perks that come with each donation, click here!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-07-2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Space Camp launches crowd-funding effort to land NASA shuttle training aircraft

One of four business jets converted to train NASA astronauts to land the space shuttle is on final approach to the Alabama home of Space Camp, pending the result of the U.S. Space & Rocket Center's first crowd-funding campaign.

The Gulfstream II (GII) Shuttle Training Aircraft (STA) will serve as a "museum exhibition and immersive classroom" at the Huntsville tourist attraction. Currently on the ground at Birmingham-Shuttlesworth International Airport, all that stands between the STA and its installment in the center's Shuttle Park are the funds needed to prepare its display.

"The U.S. Space & Rocket Center Foundation, along with the help of some amazing Space Camp alumni, are aiming to raise $70,000 for this project, the total cost of which is $192,000," Trevor Daniels, spokesman for the effort, said in a video posted on the "Land the STA" Indiegogo page. "The $70,000 that is raised through this campaign will go to support site preparation and structural supports needed to bring the aircraft to our site."

p51
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posted 03-07-2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would hope anyone who's ever gone through Space Camp will contribute to this. I will be doing so this week.

That said, it's lamentable that only the really high-end contributors will be able to get a patch of this design, as many space fans are patch hounds yet many won't be able to throw down $250 for a patch...

fredtrav
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posted 03-07-2014 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you on the patch. If they had made it $20-25 you would get a lot more people involved. Maybe have a special limited edition patch for the $250 (maybe have Hoot sign 50 or so) but a general one for us in the unwashed masses.

cspg
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posted 03-08-2014 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what about $35 for a bumper sticker? This is borderline ridiculous.

They should look at how it's done like with the N-1 book.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-08-2014 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Keep in mind, at each level, you also receive the perks of the lower levels. So, if you donate $250, you receive the patch, t-shirt, poster, bumper sticker, key ring and digital sponsor badge.

But unlike the recent campaign for the N-1 book, which was set up to sell books, this isn't about selling memorabilia. They aren't looking to sell patches or t-shirts, they are looking to fund the move and display of the Shuttle Training Aircraft.

The perks are just that, perks. A thank you memento, not a sale price. It is not a $250 patch. It is a patch (and the lower level items) to say thank you for donating $250.

I would hope that even if you can't receive your favorite perk, our members would get behind this campaign at the level they can afford, if for no other reason than to see the STA put on display. Even every $5 donation helps.

garymilgrom
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posted 03-08-2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is indeed a very good cause. A cS member arranged a tour of the facility last year which included lots of information on their plans to display the STA. Here's the current full size stack with a T-38 chase plane. The STA would complete this but the configuration would change.

T38 Shuttle 400px

fredtrav
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posted 03-08-2014 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
...this isn't about selling memorabilia. They aren't looking to sell patches or t-shirts, they are looking to fund the move and display of the Shuttle Training Aircraft.
Robert, I do understand that they are not trying to sell patches, but given the interest in patch collecting, they could attract more donors if they had one at a reasonable donation level. More donors also means more interest and possibly more visitors as well. $20-25 is still high for a patch, but it is something that most could afford and would attract more donors.

People should donate to this worthy cause in any case, but with something that stirs up interest, you might have people donate the $25 rather $5.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-08-2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a valid point, and I'll pass it along to the organizers when I speak to them next.

From what I understand, there's more news to come from this, so stay tuned for developments.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-14-2014 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The campaign is now at a little more than $19,000.

Monday marks the 44th anniversary of the founding of the U.S. Space & Rocket Center. It would be great if the total had reached $20,000 by then.

Even if you give just $5, every donation helps (and it is not a one time deal — if, for example, perk levels are added moving forward, you can always give again).

sts205cdr
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posted 03-17-2014 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sts205cdr   Click Here to Email sts205cdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I helped push it over the $20,000 mark with my $250 donation last night. I plan to donate more in the future.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-17-2014 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent! A new perk level has been added today:
Birthday candles are a bad idea aboard a space craft, so we've got the next best thing: Space Ice Cream! Help celebrate the Space & Rocket Center's 44th birthday by donating $44 to our Land the STA campaign, and we'll send you a packet of Space Camp freeze-dried ice cream in addition to all the perks at the lower levels!

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posted 03-17-2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MajTom7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to make the point that you need 10 times the number of donors at $25 as you do at $250. The difference is worse depending on what the net would be.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-24-2014 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who donate at the $35 level, here is the design of the bumper sticker you will receive:

And if you donate at the $50 or $100 levels, here is the poster and T-shirt design:

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-21-2014 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As of today (April 21), the campaign has raised just under $35,000 with 12 days remaining to donate.

Some perk updates:

  • You asked for it, you got it — there is now a $75 level for the patch only:
    Mission Patch enthusiasts: here is your chance to snag the exclusive Land the STA 4" embroidered patch featuring NASA 945.
    Act fast though, as this level is only open to the first 20 to donate $75.

  • A new $300 level offers an astronaut multi-signed STA poster:
    We are reaching out to the Space Shuttle astronauts who trained on the STA to have them autograph 50 of our exclusive Land the STA art posters! We won't stop collecting signatures until the campaign is over! Also receive all the perks at the lower levels (except the unsigned poster)!
    As of Monday, astronauts signing the posters include: Jim Halsell, Hoot Gibson, Steven Nagel and Owen Garriott. More to come...

p51
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posted 04-21-2014 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just threw my contribution in, been meaning to do it for a while, this was just the kick in the backside I needed!

GACspaceguy
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posted 04-22-2014 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I jumped in as well!

hotdog
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posted 04-23-2014 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The new perk announced today, THREE random donors will be chosen to fly with Astronaut Hoot Gibson around Huntsville in his own personal aircraft! How cool would that be! Anyone else holding out on making a donation, now you would be crazy not to!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-23-2014 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As great as that would be, it's not three random donors, it's three donors who give $10,000 or more. Here's the press release:
U.S. Space & Rocket Center Announces "Fly with an Astronaut" Perk for Crowd Funding Campaign

Donors at the $10,000 level will receive an aerial tour of Huntsville from Astronaut Robert "Hoot" Gibson

The U.S. Space & Rocket Center Foundation is offering donors who give $10,000 or more to the USSRC's "Help Land a Shuttle Training Aircraft" crowd-funding campaign a chance to fly with five-time shuttle astronaut Robert "Hoot" Gibson. The donor and a guest will join Gibson in Huntsville, Alabama, aboard his Beechcraft Bonanza for a one-hour aerial tour of the city, including an aerial view of the U.S. Space & Rocket Center campus. More details about the "fly with an astronaut" perk can be found here.

"The U.S. Space & Rocket Center's plan to exhibit a Shuttle Training Aircraft is a wonderful project and one that I am happy to support," Gibson said, "The STA is an important piece of the space shuttle legacy, one that many astronaut pilots are fond of. Having the STA on exhibit for the Center's visitors and Space Camp trainees is an excellent way to celebrate the space shuttle program's legacy and continue inspiring future generations of explorers."

Capt USN (Ret.) Robert "Hoot" Gibson is a retired NASA astronaut, naval aviator and test pilot. Gibson flew five space shuttle missions, including STS-71, the first shuttle mission to dock with Russian Space Station Mir. A life-long aviation enthusiast, Gibson has flown more than 111 types of aircraft and continues to fly in air races around the globe. Gibson is a long-time supporter of the U.S. Space & Rocket Center and Space Camp. The USSRC inducted him into the Space Camp Hall of Fame in 2012.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-23-2014 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As of Wednesday, the campaign has raised nearly $44,000 toward its $70,000 goal. There are 10 days remaining.

And Blaine Hammond has joined the astronauts signing the STA posters.

hotdog
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posted 04-25-2014 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hotdog   Click Here to Email hotdog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, my bad. The announcement I read was a little vague. It read that Gibson "would give an aerial tour of Huntsville to three lucky donors" and did not mention any pricetag. This leads one to believe that any donor could be chosen as one of the three. I'll email Trevor and see if he can reword it.

p51
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posted 04-25-2014 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, imagine the boost if a small number of random donors were chosen for something cool. Maybe not as cool as that, maybe a guided tour of the museum by Hoot or something like that...

Just a thought. Doesn't have to cost a lot to be cool to the winner!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-25-2014 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Introducing a sweepstakes or drawing to a crowdfunding campaign can present a challenge. Different states (not to mention different countries) have laws that regulate such contests. Many include a requirement that no purchase is necessary to win — which defeats the purpose of such a campaign.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-02-2014 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are just 35 hours remaining and the "Land the STA" campaign is less than $4,000 away from its goal of $70,000!

If you've been meaning to give to the cause (and claim your perks), now's the time to do so! The campaign ends on May 4 at 1:59 a.m. CDT (0659 GMT).

Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-03-2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With still 20 hours to go, the campaign has reached and surpassed its goal of $70,000!

You can still give (and claim perks) until Sunday, May 4 at 1:59 a.m. CDT (0659 GMT).

All times are CT (US)

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