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Delta7
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posted 01-04-2011 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see that NASA has updated it's Astronaut Bios page for the new year, and made several observations:
  • Marsha Ivins has apparently left the agency as her name has been moved to the Former Astronaut page.

  • There is now a separate Management Astronaut page, and those listed "are no longer eligible for flight assignment." Some of the names now include:
    • Lee Archambault
    • Patrick Forrester
    • Kenneth Ham
    • Kay Hire
    • James Kelly
    • Stanley Love
    • Lee Morin
    • John Phillips
    • Andrew Thomas
    • Janice Voss
I know Ham recently moved over to the FCOD, and that Kelly was inactive, but Stan Love is a bit of a surprise. Some of the other names aren't surprising. Mike Good and Mike Foreman are listed, but they are on temporary non-astronaut assignment.

On the other hand, Mike Lopez-Alegria is still listed as active, although his bio still shows him at the FCOD.

Interesting.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-04-2011 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can understand NASA's desire to recognize its astronauts who have moved into management positions and adding the "no longer eligible for flight assignment" clause to their new page is helpful, but I think it still creates a source of confusion between "management" and "former" astronauts.

For example, Leland Melvin is listed as management, but he is a former astronaut (he left the Astronaut Office to accept the associate administrator position). Whereas (as mentioned above) Michael Foreman remains with the Astronaut Office but is on assignment to Glenn Research Center for one year.

On the same page, NASA also has astronauts who left the space agency altogether to later return, such as Michael Coats and Charlie Bolden.

It would really be helpful if NASA could create a single list of the astronauts who remain part of the Astronaut Office, regardless if they are on flight or management status.

brianjbradley
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posted 01-06-2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the problem lies in "no longer eligible" and "currently not eligible" may be more fitting. Plenty of astronauts have gone into management in the past and entered active flight status at a later time.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-06-2011 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently, the "Management Astronauts" listed on that page are truly no longer eligible for flight assignments.

This may be due to their decision to move into management, or because they no longer meet the medical or program requirements to fly but remain with the space agency.

Astronauts who are serving in management positions but who may later qualify for future flights remain listed in the active list, e.g. Peggy Whitson and CJ Sturckow.

brianjbradley
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posted 01-06-2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. Thanks for the clarification Robert. That is a lot of grounded space talent.

Delta7
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posted 06-11-2011 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed that several of the members of the 2009 Astronaut Class have been moved from the Astronaut Candidate to the Active Astronauts page, their bios indicating they completed the ASCAN program in May. Curious as to why only some names have been moved. And Mike Hopkins is still listed as an Astronaut Candidate even though he's been assigned to a flight.

Also, I noticed George Zamka is now listed on the Management Astronaut page.

brianjbradley
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posted 06-11-2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess is they are completing some extended training program in preparation for the first class assignments to space station increments. I seem to remember previous classes completing training on somewhat of a staggered schedule and those completing the longer training got space station increments first. Just a hunch.

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posted 06-11-2011 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro-nut   Click Here to Email astro-nut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got to meet Serena Aunon and Reid Wiseman last week and they both said that their bios would be changing within a couple of weeks.

Delta7
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posted 06-24-2011 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clay Anderson has moved to Management Astronaut status.

brianjbradley
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posted 06-24-2011 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And TJ Creamer. That one is too bad. So much experience and only one flight.

Delta7
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posted 06-24-2011 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and Dave Wolf.

Delta7
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posted 08-03-2011 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the website (Former Astronauts page), Steve Nagel and John Phillips have retired from NASA.

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posted 08-04-2011 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...and Carlos Noriega.

Delta7
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posted 09-26-2011 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the website Charles Hobaugh retired from NASA in August 2011.

Delta7
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posted 10-20-2011 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike Massimino is now listed as a Management Astronaut.

brianjbradley
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posted 10-30-2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve Robinson is now listed as a Management Astronaut. I remembering hearing him in an interview around STS-135 that he was "still hoping for my fifth flight." I guess that won't happen.

With no shuttle, I wonder what the new average flight career will be. 2, 3 flights?

Delta7
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posted 06-12-2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
James Dutton has now moved over to Management Astronaut status.

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posted 07-13-2012 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for East-Frisian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some astronauts are since longer time, management astronauts and not active astronauts. Does anyone know, since when (exact date ore month/year). The astronauts are: Clay Anderson, Michael Foreman, Michael Gernhardt, G.C.Johnson, Vegas Kelly, Bill McArthur, Lee Morin, and Terry Wilcutt.

Thank your for the help.

Editor's note: Threads merged.

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 07-14-2012 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody have some raw numbers on number of retirements, and how the number of active astronauts has reduced since, say, late-2010 when things really started to wind down in the Shuttle program?

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posted 01-03-2013 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ron Garan is now listed as a Management Astronaut.

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MSS
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posted 01-31-2013 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the website Brent W. Jett, Jr. retired from NASA in January 2013.

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posted 04-11-2013 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dorothy Metcalf-Lindenburger is listed as a Management Astronaut from April 10th.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-30-2013 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frederick W. Rick "CJ" Sturckow is now listed as a former astronaut.

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posted 07-18-2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stephanie Wilson is listed as a Management Astronaut from July 3rd.

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posted 08-09-2013 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for englau   Click Here to Email englau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I apologize if this is an obvious question, but does anyone know what Tracy Caldwell Dyson is considered?

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posted 08-10-2013 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tracy Caldwell Dyson is still considered an active astronaut.

You can look that up here.

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posted 08-10-2013 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael Foale is listed as former astronaut.

Editor's note: See: Astronaut Michael Foale's post-NASA career.

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posted 10-18-2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Former list updated on Chamitoff and Garan departures (Oct 17th).

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posted 10-24-2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
B. Alvin Drew has now moved over to Management Astronaut status.

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posted 01-07-2014 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS   Click Here to Email MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kevin Ford has moved from "Active" to "Management", James Dutton has moved from "Management" to "Former". (Jan. 6th, 2014)

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In "Former Astronaut" has not been updated the death of John A. Llewellyn took place on July 2, 2013.

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posted 01-09-2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delta7   Click Here to Email Delta7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious as to how someone like James Dutton winds up on management status. Or Dorothy Metcalf-Lindenburger. Both are relatively young with potentially many years left in their careers. They both flew only once. Is this a decision they make or is it made for them? And if they made that decision, why?

Did Mash Dutton walk in to Bob Behnken's office and say "I don't want to fly again but I'll stick around as a management astronaut and help out in another way"? Just seems rather unusual to me; they came in to this program supposedly to fly in space and to be removed from that prospect so early in their careers doesn't make sense. Unless there are other circumstances.

Also, do pilot astronauts in management status, like Steve Frick or James Kelly, still have T-38 flying privileges? I would guess not since they no longer need to maintain the skills needed to fly in space, i.e. flying jets. Just curious...

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Management astronauts do not retain T-38 privileges unless they are the director or deputy of flight crew operations.

Towards the end of the space shuttle program, then-chief astronaut Peggy Whitson instituted a steadfast rule: if you could not qualify to serve a long duration stay on the International Space Station, you would no longer remain in the active corps.

To qualify for ISS, an astronaut needs to meet three requirements: medical, robotics and extravehicular activity. If any one of those skills/qualifications cannot be met, they were either moved into management or decided to retire. (If the issue was medical and the condition was temporary, the status change could be temporary.)

You would have to ask individual astronauts why they made the transition as NASA won't say (in part due to medical privacy laws).

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posted 01-09-2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael Cassutt   Click Here to Email Michael Cassutt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dutton actually left JSC and the astronaut office in the late summer of 2012, and has been a professor of engineering and flight instructor at the Air Force Academy since then. So it wasn't a case of volunteering to do another job at JSC — he was gone, period. I suspect that he was carried as "management" because he still officially belonged to NASA — even though he was working for the USAF, where he is an active duty officer — through the end of 2013.

(As to why no further flights for relatively young astronauts, who knows? Personal, professional-career or medical reasons.)

And, as Robert says, management astronauts don't fly T-38s. Reducing the number of astronauts using aircraft is one of the reasons management status exists in the first place.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 02-18-2014 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This article says Alvin Drew currently works as the NASA Liaison to Air Force Space Command, NORAD/US Northern Command and US Strategic Command.

Isn't that Michael Good's posting? Can there be two liaisons? If not, where is Good? Back at JSC?

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posted 02-18-2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael Good already returned to Houston over a year ago. Or was it two years?

I think Jim Dutton had the job in the meantime, before switching to the Academy.

By past experience, it is a job for the reintroduction into the wild.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 02-18-2014 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah. I was confused because in November I got back an ISP of Good, the request of which I sent to Peterson AFB.

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posted 02-19-2014 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then Peterson AFB is doing an amazing job in forwarding mail for a colleague who has moved to a different location.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 03-26-2014 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delta7:
I'm curious as to how someone like James Dutton winds up on management status. Or Dorothy Metcalf-Lindenburger.
Dottie M-L doesn't plan on going back to space, according to a recent article.

On a side note, she's a singer in Max Q.

brianjbradley
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posted 05-18-2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for brianjbradley   Click Here to Email brianjbradley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noticed today that Andrew S.W. Thomas (STS-77, Mir-24/25, STS-102, STS-114) is listed as a Former Astronaut. His profile indicates he retired in February 2014. I couldn't find a press release on this one.

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