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dcfowler1
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posted 02-07-2007 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dcfowler1   Click Here to Email dcfowler1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Military justice is to justice, what military music is to music."

NASA will undoubtably provide counseling as her "employer" per se, but don't expect the Navy to be all warm and fuzzy with her, especially in a high profile case like this. She'll either get court martialed by the Navy, or be forced to resign under less than honorable circumstances, in lieu of being prosecuted. The severity of the circumstances (undoubtably to be determined by an NCIS criminal investigation) will determine what the course of action the Navy will take. The services don't like their images besmirched by their personnel like this.

She'll probably lose her military pension as well.

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That's just totally tasteless. I've reported it to ebay on the grounds of bad taste - maybe they'll take it off.

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posted 02-07-2007 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunatiki   Click Here to Email Lunatiki     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought about two things today. Anyone remember when the FedEx pilot, who was hitching a ride with another crew, a 737, I think, went bonkers and attacked the flight crew with a claw hammer? It just made me think about how bad things could really be if you had some type of "mental issue" while in orbit. Also, this isn't the first time NASA has been major national news, and not because of a mission. Andrea Yate's husband was (might still be) a NASA engineer.

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posted 02-07-2007 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dirk   Click Here to Email Dirk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's great to see Lisa with her fellow astronauts in Houston, etc. Why does no one ask the question how her husband and children will react? Maybe that is not important...

Astronaut, or pilot, or whatever... what she did is not done. And I only hope that she can clear out this situation, not with her fellow astronauts, but with her husband and family. That is the only thing that is important.

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posted 02-07-2007 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dirk:
Why does no one ask the question how her husband and children will react? Maybe that is not important...
Dirk, on page three of this thread, you will find a statement issued by Nowak's family.

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posted 02-07-2007 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lunatiki:
It just made me think about how bad things could really be if you had some type of "mental issue" while in orbit.
NASA Headquarters and Johnson Space Center held press conferences today to answers questions from the media "concerning astronauts, their selection and screening, flight training and other matters." During the briefing, NASA said it would review its psychological screening programs "to determine whether there were any areas of concern or leading indicators we might have picked up on," in regards to Nowak.
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Also, this isn't the first time NASA has been major national news, and not because of a mission. Andrea Yate's husband was (might still be) a NASA engineer.
And like that case, Nowak's employment with NASA is mostly immaterial to what happened.

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posted 02-07-2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KC Stoever   Click Here to Email KC Stoever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking about this all day -- good new reporting at the WaPo and the NYT. I now regret my own emphasis on the screening protocols, or whatever they are, in place at NASA.

I'm thinking instead Nowak had a full-blown psychotic break, in the works for months, that no psychiatric screening in 1996 (or whenever she was selected) could have identified. An alert colleague or family member coulda/shoulda seen it and gotten this woman the emergency medical assistance she so clearly needed--before she committed herself to such a massively destructive course of action. That and a NASA-mandated annual full psychiatric workup by a team at one of Houston's many fine hospitals--not in-house staff susceptible to the wink-wink that military pilots employ so adeptly with this feared class of professionals.

Interesting reporting at the Times, quoting a professor of psychiatry at Columbia, noting that in normal love triangles (e.g., jilted Jean Harris and the Scarsdale diet doctor), the perpetrator usually targets the love object, not the rival. He also id'd the highly organized behavior involved in the planning as illustrative of "a guy thing." That it was atypical of female "crime of passion" behavior.

See the NYT's John Schwartz.

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posted 02-07-2007 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Dirk, on page three of this thread, you will find a statement issued by Nowak's family.
I believe the released family statement is from her family in Rockville, MD (i.e., mother, father, etc). To my knowledge, her family in Houston has not commented.

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There is one huge missing piece here, and it revolves around Bill Oelefein. He hasn't said a thing and the silence is deafening. Lisa Nowak spilled her guts, Colleen Shipman made statements, nothing from him. I read a column in the LA Times in which Bill Oelefein's ex mother in law (he got divorced in 2005) blamed Lias Nowak in part for the divorce and said "I only know that she(lisa nowak) broke my daughters heart". I will not speculate here but will say I am really intrigued to see what he has to say for himself. my gut tells me there is much more to this story than we now know.

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Apparently he was on leave in Florida when this all happened and is due back in Houston sometime today.

He was the one who informed JSC of the situation, i.e. Lisa's arrest, after it had happened

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posted 02-08-2007 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA release
Deputy Administrator Shana Dale's Statement on Lisa Nowak
Remarks at NASA Media Briefing, Feb. 7, 2007

We are very concerned about the tragic situation involving astronaut Lisa Nowak and are deeply concerned about the safety and well-being of Lisa, Air Force Captain Colleen Shipman, and Astronaut Bill Oefelein. This is, of course, a personal and legal matter -- and NASA is, therefore, limited in its involvement and ability to discuss many of the details.

However, we know there are a number of questions about NASA policies and procedures, and we would like to address those today, to the extent that we can.

First, we can tell you that Lisa Nowak, who had been scheduled for duties related to the upcoming shuttle mission, has been removed from flight status. She also is on 30-day leave. She has been released from police custody in Orlando, and is now back in Houston, where she lives.

Her activities with NASA in Houston today are confidential personnel matters that we cannot discuss, and we appreciate your understanding and cooperation on this.

As you know, Lisa was a member of the crew of STS-121, which flew this past July. Her performance as a member of that crew was excellent. She took part in a number of post-flight activities with other members of the crew following their return. These included appearances at sporting events, conventions, and visits to other NASA centers and contractor sites.

There also have been questions about the status of astronaut Bill Oefelein, who last flew on STS-116 in December, as the pilot on that mission. He remains on flight status in the NASA Astronaut Office.

Senior management at the Johnson Space Center, where the astronauts are based, received word early Monday that astronaut Lisa Nowak had been arrested in Orlando and was in custody. NASA management had few further details at that time, and dispatched the chief of the Astronaut Office, Steve Lindsay, to Orlando to look into the situation and offer any appropriate assistance. Lindsay made the trip on a government aircraft, a NASA T-38 training jet, at the discretion of NASA management, to expedite his arrival and NASA’s ability to assess the situation.

Steve Lindsay attended the court hearings associated with the case in Orlando. Lisa returned to Houston on a commercial flight this morning, after her release, accompanied on that commercial flight by Steve Lindsey.

We do not know where the facts and circumstances of this case will lead. We will continue to monitor and assess the situation, and NASA will do whatever is appropriate in this case and fully cooperate with the authorities.

There are several general procedural questions we would like to address.

One question relates to psychological testing of astronauts, clearing them for flight, and assessing their mental health following their flights. All astronauts are subjected to extensive medical and psychological testing in order to be admitted to the astronaut corps. In addition to regular health checkups throughout their time of service to NASA, astronauts receive extensive medical examinations prior to each flight.

While there is no specific, separate psychological examination for a shuttle flight, NASA health care providers are experienced in all aspects of health care, including behavioral health, and they certainly look for any potential issues or problems. More extensive psychological examinations are required for long-duration flights, such as an extended mission on the space station. Astronauts also undergo extensive medical examinations when they return from space.

I heard few details on the situation until Monday evening. On Tuesday morning, the administrator of NASA, Mike Griffin, gave direction to Mike Coats, director of the Johnson Space Center, to do the following:

(1) Initiate a review of existing psychological screening for admittance into the astronaut corps, and a review of the nature and extent to which we do ongoing psychological assessments during an astronaut's career at NASA. Issues to be addressed include: who conducts the screening, what are the professional criteria necessary to conduct the screening, how often and in what manner are astronauts psychologically evaluated throughout their careers, and, if concerns are raised during any evaluation, how are those concerns adjudicated?

(2) In light of the current, situation, determine whether there were there any areas of concern -- any leading indicators we might have pickup on, based on Lisa Nowak's dealings with other astronauts or NASA employees, between the time she was detailed to us from the Navy and the present.

(3) From those who participate in this review, discern any recommended changes to existing procedures or practices, and whether there are lessons to be learned that need to be incorporated into future practices.

Today, Mike Griffin has asked Chief Medical Officer Rich Williams to lead a review of our medical and psychological screening and follow-on health care procedures to determine whether any modifications would be advisable, to ensure that our astronauts have the level of psychological and medical care and attention they need.

Other questions have related to any codes of conduct NASA has for astronauts or other employees. There are no specific behavior regulations for astronauts, either on or off duty, beyond the basic expectations for employees of any government agency. Members of the military such as Lisa Nowak, who is on active duty with the Navy and is working "on detail" to NASA, are subject to the rules and regulations of their branch of the military service. We would refer you to the Navy for any specific codes of conduct they might have.

This is a very difficult time for many people, and it is a very tragic event. We appreciate your concern and interest. We will now answer your questions as best we can.

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U.S. Air Force release
Information regarding Captain Colleen Shipman

Capt. Colleen Shipman, the subject of an incident involving NASA Astronaut Capt. Lisa Nowak, is on duty. As part of her duty, she is getting help from various base organizations to ensure her well-being. She is cooperating fully with law enforcement officials and the Florida State Attorney's Office.

"She's holding up well considering the circumstances," said a base official. "Captain Shipman also asked me to pass along that she appreciates the support she's received from her friends, family, and the wing."

Captain Shipman has been assigned to Patrick Air Force Base since May 2005. She serves as an engineer in the 45th Launch Support Squadron. Before coming to Patrick AFB, she served as an engineer at Air Force Research Laboratory, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.

The 45th Launch Support Squadron's main function is processing Department of Defense spacecraft and integrating them for launch.

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From the Orlando Sentinel:
Air Force Capt. Colleen Shipman has dropped her request for a restraining order against Lisa Nowak, the astronaut charged in a bizarre plot to kill her, court officials said today.

Shipman's attorneys said she no longer feels that an injunction for protection against repeat violence is necessary since there now are other protective orders in place.

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From Florida Today:
A Navy spokesman said this week that the military will not take over the case of astronaut Lisa Nowak, who is charged with attempted murder and attempted kidnapping after police said she attacked a woman she considered a rival for another astronaut's affections...

Also this week, Nowak's attorney, Donald Lykkebak, filed a written plea of "not guilty" in an Orange County court and requested a trial by jury.

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From the Orlando Sentinel:
NASA astronaut Lisa Nowak, who police say made nearly a 1,000-mile trek to confront a woman she saw as a rival for another astronaut, will not face an attempted-murder charge, officials said today.

Instead, prosecutors are charging her with burglary with a weapon, attempted kidnapping with intent to inflict bodily harm and battery.

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