| Author | Topic:   STS-133: Viewing, questions, and comments | 
	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-18-2011 08:06 AM         NASA is still targeting Feb. 24 for space shuttle Discovery's STS-133 launch. From the space agency's Twitter feed:
 Shuttle program, Mission Ops flight directors and all [Flight Readiness Review]  attendees agree STS-133 can launch 6 hours after ATV docks on Feb. 24. | 
	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-18-2011 04:49 PM         Space shuttle managers have scheduled  Discovery's launch for 4:50 p.m. EST on Thursday, Feb. 24.
 The launch will occur six hours after the planned docking of the European Space Agency's Automated Transfer Vehicle-2 "Johannes Kepler" to the space station.  | 
	| tegwilym Member
 Posts: 2331From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
 Registered: Jan 2000
 |  posted 02-20-2011 02:12 PM         How many from collectSPACE are going to be there?  Bryan McKay emailed me trying to set a gathering, but he said not many responded.
 I'll be there 23rd to 27 or 28th if anyone would like to meet up somewhere and put a face behind the names.    | 
	| KSCartist Member
 Posts: 2896From: Titusville, FL  USA
 Registered: Feb 2005
 |  posted 02-20-2011 03:34 PM         I say we all gather at Shuttles Wednesday night no later than 6pm.
 What does everyone say? | 
	| BMckay Member
 Posts: 3219From:  MA, USA
 Registered: Sep 2002
 |  posted 02-20-2011 06:17 PM         Good idea Tim, I was just going to suggest it. Shuttles is fine, especially if you are a Boston fan... I'm in.
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	| Hart Sastrowardoyo Member
 Posts: 3445From: Toms River, NJ
 Registered: Aug 2000
 |  posted 02-21-2011 09:45 AM         Looking at the crew photo in front of the T-38 make me wonder: Is Barratt going to be the last person awarded the Mach 25 patch?
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	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-21-2011 09:58 AM         While they have flown in space before, both Roberto Vittori and Mike Fincke will be making their first space shuttle flight -- and therefore be eligible for their first Mach 25 patch -- on STS-134.
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	| dom Member
 Posts: 855From:
 Registered: Aug 2001
 |  posted 02-21-2011 11:50 AM         Does anyone know if the shuttle will be visible in the night sky in the UK and Ireland just after launch?
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	| dabolton Member
 Posts: 419From: Seneca, IL, US
 Registered: Jan 2009
 |  posted 02-21-2011 12:48 PM       
 quote:What was the returning Apollo velocity? Someone should make them patches. Not to diminish the Mach 25 Club in any way.Originally posted by Hart Sastrowardoyo:
 Is Barratt going to be the last person awarded the Mach 25 patch?
 
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	| Jay Chladek Member
 Posts: 2272From: Bellevue, NE, USA
 Registered: Aug 2007
 |  posted 02-21-2011 12:50 PM         
 quote:Originally posted by dom:
 Does anyone know if the shuttle will be visible in the night sky in the UK and Ireland just after launch?
 
 It has been in the past, depending on the sun angle at altitude and any other visual obstructions. A couple cS members have even managed to shoot footage of a nice bright white shuttle flying formation with a very orange external tank "star". | 
	| Rob Joyner Member
 Posts: 1308From: GA, USA
 Registered: Jan 2004
 |  posted 02-21-2011 01:09 PM         Those with Gator Tour reservations - the deadline to confirm a pick-up site reservation is today. They say those going must call 72 hours before launch to confirm or they may not can guarantee you a seat on their bus. Those of you still wanting a causeway ticket should call them to see if they have or will have any available causeway tickets due to non-calls or refunds. Couldn't hurt.
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	| issman1 Member
 Posts: 1042From: UK
 Registered: Apr 2005
 |  posted 02-21-2011 02:15 PM       
 quote:Originally posted by dom:
 ...if the shuttle will be visible in the night sky in the UK
 
 ISS is due to make its only pass on February 24 in the SW at 1919 GMT. Discovery lifts off at 2150 GMT, so I doubt it. However, if the launch slips to March 4, 5 or 6 then it's possible. I had the good fortune to see Discovery and its ET pass overhead just 20 minutes after its launch on mission STS-128. And they were a stunning sight even at 0520. | 
	| dom Member
 Posts: 855From:
 Registered: Aug 2001
 |  posted 02-21-2011 03:39 PM         Yes, I've also had the good fortune to see the shuttle fly over Ireland a few times just after launch. Spectacular!
 Fingers crossed we get another chance. | 
	| Blackarrow Member
 Posts: 3120From: Belfast, United Kingdom
 Registered: Feb 2002
 |  posted 02-21-2011 05:50 PM       Dom, there may be a few folk gathering in Florida who will be hoping you DON'T get a chance...at least, not THIS time!  (Maybe next time or the one after...?)
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	| KSCartist Member
 Posts: 2896From: Titusville, FL  USA
 Registered: Feb 2005
 |  posted 02-21-2011 06:23 PM         For those going to Shuttles Wednesday evening, I'll have some of my new 50th anniversary patches with me and available for purchase.
 I'll be wearing my collectSPACE black polo. | 
	| DCCollector Member
 Posts: 227From: Washington, DC USA
 Registered: Dec 2006
 |  posted 02-21-2011 08:27 PM         I'll be at the launch with Gator Tours as well, but I will be staying in Orlando so I won't be able to make the Wednesday evening Shuttles rendezvous.  I look forward to meeting other cS-ers with Gator Tours tickets.
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	| FullThrottle Member
 Posts: 93From: Seattle, WA, USA
 Registered: Sep 2010
 |  posted 02-21-2011 09:33 PM         Tim, I'll see if I can find you at Shuttles. I'm dragging my mother to the launch again... I really enjoyed my multiple visits to Shuttles, the food was great every time, and the waitress was attentive, friendly and easy on the eyes! Between Shuttles and Florida's Best I think that I spent most of my off time gorging my face!
 Will you have any other patches with you? If so we might load up on a few more! | 
	| tegwilym Member
 Posts: 2331From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
 Registered: Jan 2000
 |  posted 02-22-2011 01:01 AM         I'll try to get over to Shuttles for dinner also.  You'll recognize me FullThrottle - we met in the Fry's lot to trade the space box!
 Probably can't stay too late, gotta get up early the next day for the launch! | 
	| dom Member
 Posts: 855From:
 Registered: Aug 2001
 |  posted 02-22-2011 12:50 PM         
 quote:Of course, I apologise! For those of you who are gathering in Florida, I hope it lifts off on schedule.Originally posted by Blackarrow:
 Dom, there may be a few folk gathering in Florida who will be hoping you DON'T get a chance...at least, not THIS time!
 
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	| Ken Havekotte Member
 Posts: 2915From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
 Registered: Mar 2001
 |  posted 02-22-2011 01:58 PM         It would be fun to meet with fellow space enthusiasts here on the Florida Space Coast this week, where I am located, but I just can't commit to any function(s) at the moment.  Could someone outline for me a brief schedule of planned events; time, day, and locations?  I'll do my best to attend, or at least stop in for a quick visit, and would be happy to distribute complimentary space goodies for everyone in attendance.
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	| tegwilym Member
 Posts: 2331From: Sturgeon Bay, WI
 Registered: Jan 2000
 |  posted 02-22-2011 05:14 PM         I'm planning on being a the Walk of Fame museum on Wednesdeay afternoon for the book signing, probably after 2pm or so.  After that I'm wide open for suggestions!
 I'll have my computer along, so I can see if anyone has some ideas for a gathering.  Would be fun to see you again Ken!   | 
	| SpaceAngel Member
 Posts: 307From: Maryland
 Registered: May 2010
 |  posted 02-23-2011 09:36 AM         Tomorrow's the big day! Looking forward to watching Discovery's last launch and into the history books!
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	| OV-105 Member
 Posts: 816From: Ridgecrest, CA
 Registered: Sep 2000
 |  posted 02-23-2011 01:16 PM         Being a scanner radio person one of the shops I have made radio purchases from sent me this link on Twitter today. Nice to hear what is going on at KSC for the launch and will be interesting on launch day.
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	| MarylandSpace Member
 Posts: 1336From:
 Registered: Aug 2002
 |  posted 02-23-2011 04:10 PM         Will not be able to make tomorrow's launch due to a funeral today.  But I do hope all of my friends get to see a spectacular launch tomorrow.
 However, if there would be a two day delay -- I hope not -- I could be there. | 
	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-23-2011 04:55 PM         NASA release
 Playstation® Home Users Can Watch NASA's Shuttle Launch TogetherNASA's final liftoff of space shuttle Discovery will be available in a unique "social viewing" environment available through Sony Computer Entertainment America's PlayStation Home for PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system. Discovery's launch on Thursday, Feb. 24 at 4:50 p.m. EST is the first live streaming event to be offered by Sunset Yacht, a premium personal space from LOOT, Sony DADC's interactive entertainment development team. Users will be able to chat via Bluetooth headsets with others watching the launch - all from inside the PlayStation Home social gaming environment. "We're excited about this new way for people to experience the exhilaration of human spaceflight as part of a larger community," said David Weaver, NASA associate administrator for the Office of Communications. "In addition to the other two shuttle launches planned for April and June, NASA looks forward to sharing more of our endeavors with PlayStation users." In addition to live streamed events, the Sunset Yacht's NASA TV channel will offer hundreds of videos offering spectacular views of the universe from past and current NASA missions. A gallery of podcasts showcasing several missions including the Mars Science Laboratory and Voyager spacecraft also will be available from the agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. "The launch of the space shuttle Discovery provides a wonderful opportunity to introduce people to the fun of social viewing," said LOOT Managing Director David Sterling. "Users can share this experience with their friends, regardless of where those friends happen to be in the world."  | 
	| lunarrv15 Member
 Posts: 1355From: Cincinnati, Ohio, Hamilton
 Registered: Mar 2001
 |  posted 02-24-2011 01:29 AM         A Clarion Hotel closed last year in Titusville on Route 1 and 503(?), across the waters from the launch pads. I am curious, are the owners charging for parking for viewing the launch. Is the block closed?
 This is to the members who live in the town or drive by the area. | 
	| KSCartist Member
 Posts: 2896From: Titusville, FL  USA
 Registered: Feb 2005
 |  posted 02-24-2011 05:11 AM         You'll have to drive by to check. The new owners are a religious organization and the old hotel is now a retreat.
 But no worries, there's a LOT of great parking for ten miles along US#1 in Titusville. | 
	| 328KF Member
 Posts: 1234From:
 Registered: Apr 2008
 |  posted 02-24-2011 01:18 PM         Miles O'Brien's usual great telecast is on Spaceflight Now, and he just put out a request for Tim Kopra to call in and give his thoughts about today's launch.
 We'll see if he takes up the offer. | 
	| JPSastro Member
 Posts: 170From: Tucson, Arizona
 Registered: Jan 2009
 |  posted 02-24-2011 01:20 PM         Found this interesting link to listen to ground communications at the Cape in real time. It requires Java to work.
 This has been some real great listening so far today. I highly recommend this! | 
	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-24-2011 01:25 PM         
 quote:I'll be Miles' guest on the show coming up at 2:45 p.m. (EST) sharing some of the more unusual and fun items aboard Discovery.Originally posted by 328KF:
 Miles O'Brien's usual great telecast is on Spaceflight Now...
 
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	| Jay Chladek Member
 Posts: 2272From: Bellevue, NE, USA
 Registered: Aug 2007
 |  posted 02-24-2011 03:39 PM         I find the timing of the East Range's command and control computer going off-line at this time VERY suspicious (i.e. a hack or something worse). Lets hope it can be resolved properly.
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	| Jay Chladek Member
 Posts: 2272From: Bellevue, NE, USA
 Registered: Aug 2007
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:00 PM         Good launch it seems, THANK YOU! Go Discovery you big beautiful... thing you!
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	| moorouge Member
 Posts: 2454From: U.K.
 Registered: Jul 2009
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:08 PM         What seemed to fall off about 5 minutes into the launch? It seemed like a few black tile shapes.
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	| buckeyecal Member
 Posts: 90From: soon to be Boise, ID USA
 Registered: Feb 2006
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:09 PM         What was that doink off the shuttle belly?
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	| MarylandSpace Member
 Posts: 1336From:
 Registered: Aug 2002
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:11 PM         I saw that also but did not know what it was. Great launch coverage on NASA TV.
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	| fireflyer21 Member
 Posts: 35From: Evansville, IN
 Registered: Jul 2004
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:14 PM         
 quote:It was foam; you could see some other smaller pieces as well. I think it was well past the time frame for damage concern.Originally posted by moorouge:
 What seemed to fall off about 5 minutes into the launch?
 
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	| OV-105 Member
 Posts: 816From: Ridgecrest, CA
 Registered: Sep 2000
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:15 PM         Looked like they lost a chunk of foam right under the bipod at about 4 minutes.
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	| Jay Chladek Member
 Posts: 2272From: Bellevue, NE, USA
 Registered: Aug 2007
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:27 PM         If it was at the 4 to 5 minute mark, that is usually past the point where atmospheric pressure would cause the foam to accelerate relative to the shuttle due to drag. Given the repairs to the ET for this mission, I am not surprised some foam came off, but the stuff did its job where it needed to.
 Still, it will likely be a focused point of inspection tomorrow. | 
	| OV-105 Member
 Posts: 816From: Ridgecrest, CA
 Registered: Sep 2000
 |  posted 02-24-2011 04:39 PM         Just watched the replay during the OMS 2 of the ET camera. You can see it pop off a little left of the right bipod leg near the intertank. Looked like it hit near the nose wheel door or just aft of it then hit the tank and went back aft. Didn't look like any damage to the tiles in the area, still all black.
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	| Robert Pearlman Editor
 Posts: 42988From: Houston, TX
 Registered: Nov 1999
 |  posted 02-24-2011 05:12 PM         NASA associate administrator Bill Gerstenmaier said during the post-launch press conference (still on-going) that there were four foam losses observed, "all within family" and "well after the area of concern from an impact to the orbiter standpoint."
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