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Topic: Missing Apollo Hasselblad camera magazines
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LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 02-17-2011 08:56 PM
  
I have never seen any Apollo images from the following Hasselblad magazines: I believe that one magazine was left behind on the lunar surface by mistake on Apollo 14. Were the other magazines never used or are there photos out there that have rarely if ever been seen? |
328KF
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posted 02-19-2011 12:35 PM
Pete and Al mistakenly left a color film magazine on the lunar surface, but I don't have the number handy. I know they discussed it with MCC during the trip home so it can probably be found in the transcript. |
LM-12
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posted 02-19-2011 02:07 PM
Thank you 328KF for sending along that interesting bit of information. I did not know that Apollo 12 had also left behind a magazine on the lunar surface.The Hasselblad magazines listed in the Apollo Image Atlas and the Apollo Image Gallery range from mag 01 (Apollo 4) to mag 163 (Apollo 17). The list seems to take into account the Apollo 14 magazine that was left on the lunar surface, but not the Apollo 12 magazine that was also left on the lunar surface. That is somewhat confusing. There are missing frame counts that correspond to the missing magazines listed in my previous post, so that would seem to indicate that those magazines do exist somewhere. |
Fezman92
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From: New Jersey, USA
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 02-19-2011 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by 328KF:
Pete and Al mistakenly left a color film magazine on the lunar surface.
Man, that sucks. When we go back to the moon, I hope they can get it... |
paulushumungus
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From: Burton, Derbyshire, England
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 02-20-2011 05:46 AM
The magazine will be well and truly frazzelled by now. |
LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
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posted 02-20-2011 09:36 AM
The Apollo 14 Lunar Surface Journal identifies the film left on the lunar surface as magazine HH.The method used to identify the Apollo Hasselblad magazines is very confusing to say the least ... a combination of numbers, letters, double-letters and number-letters. Perhaps the person who came up with this system is the same guy who is responsible for the ultra-confusing number-letter and out-of-sequence Shuttle flight designations! |
Blackarrow
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From: Belfast, United Kingdom
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-20-2011 03:28 PM
Pete Conrad was quoted somewhere as saying that the magazine left behind contained mostly lunar orbital photography, implying that not many many lunar surface pictures were lost.Changing the subject slightly, did both Hasselblads have B&W film on the second Apollo 12 EVA? If not, when one of the cameras broke could they not have swopped the magazines to allow colour photography of Surveyor 3? |
LM-12
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 02-20-2011 04:15 PM
It is my understanding that on Apollo 12, mags 46/47 on EVA-1 were both colour, and mags 48/49 on EVA-2 were both black and white. I think I got that right. |
LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-12-2011 04:36 PM
Are there any plans to add additional full Hasselblad magazines to the Project Apollo Archive Apollo Image Gallery? The latest update was back in 2007. Currently there are no magazines posted for Apollo 8 10 and 13. |
mooncollector
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From: Alabama, USA
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted 03-20-2011 03:33 PM
I have been wanting to ask this about the Apollo Archive as well, I really wish they would post the Apollo 10 magazines there. There are a lot of engineering shots of the docked LM and of the lunar orbit operations that are unique to that mission and I would love to see all that content added. |
GerryM
Member Posts: 240
From: Glenside PA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 03-20-2011 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by mooncollector:
I really wish they would post the Apollo 10 magazines there.
You might consider the Apollo 10 Hi-Res image disc at RetroSpaceImages.com. I believe that magazine 27, 34 and 35 are included... not to mention all the other great stuff on the disc. |
bernoullis
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From: UK
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 04-06-2011 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by mooncollector:
I have been wanting to ask this about the Apollo Archive as well, I really wish they would post the Apollo 10 magazines there.
No need to really bother with RetroSpaceImages.com either - plenty of the Apollo 10 Hasselblad images are available on the Apollo Flight Journal! They are in decent resolution too, much better than currently available on the Lunar & Planetary Institute's website. |
LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 04-06-2011 04:26 PM
The Apollo Flight Journal does have the full Hasselblad magazines for Apollo 8. Magazines 12-18 are posted. The images are high-resolution. |
LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
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posted 04-08-2012 03:56 PM
The Apollo Image Atlas has the five Apollo 13 Hasselblad magazines 58-62 in high-resolution.There are some nice LM and SM views - you can even see the top of the SM.
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LM-12
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posted 05-09-2012 07:53 AM
All the Apollo Hasselblad 70mm photos taken on the lunar surface can be found on a couple of websites. Those photos are listed by magazine and the frame numbers are in sequence. But some magazines are a mixed bag of lunar surface, orbital and multiple-EVA photos. Magazine 134 from Apollo 17 contains both EVA-1 and EVA-3 photos, for instance. Using the NASA photography indexes, I thought it would be interesting to list the frame numbers by EVA instead of by magazine. That would give you a list of all the photos taken on any particular EVA. For example, the final EVA on Apollo 17 would look something like this Apollo 17 EVA-3
- 20452-20532 ... mag 134
- 21185-21273 ... mag 139
- 21351-21509 ... mag 140
- 21510-21668 ... mag 141
- 21669-21833 ... mag 142
- 21834-21982 ... mag 143
- 22192-22228 ... mag 145
- 22289-22450 ... mag 146
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LM-12
Member Posts: 687
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-31-2012 07:11 AM
During the Apollo 12 post EVA-2 activities back inside the LM, Pete Conrad mentions the 70mm colour magazine that was left on the lunar surface:CONRAD: Well, I got some bad news for you and some good news. In the first place, the third magazine was a color magazine, and all it had on it were some shots that were taken of earthrise and a few things like that coming around on descent; and, unfortunately, Al and I got our signals crossed, and it's outside on the lunar surface right now. Now, what we did was take the black-and-white magazine off of Al's camera when it failed and put it on my camera and used it up so that we have two complete black and whites on the second EVA and two complete colors of the first EVA, and the only thing that's missing is the color magazine that has undocking and a couple other mundane things like that on it at -- at the beginning of the LM operation; and, unfortunately, that's out there in that saddle bag. We didn't catch that one. |
LM-12
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-13-2013 08:48 PM
The film left on the moon on Apollo 14 was 16mm DAC magazine HH. The moonwalkers mentioned it in the crew debriefing:MITCHELL: Except I felt a bit disappointed with the sketchy documentation we did on some of those rocks, that we couldn't do a better job of identifying -- putting a number on a particular rock so that we could subsequently identify which rock was picked up where. It's going to be a hard job to sort it out, I'm sure.SHEPARD: With the geologists, we may be able to sort it out very well in a matter of a day or so. We did get everything in that we needed although we made two trips with the ETB and an extra rock bag. We did get everything up there all right, with the exception of one camera magazine. MITCHELL: Outside of my own stupidity -- missing that one magazine. This was complicated by the fact that, in real time, we decided to take the extra magazine we hadn't used on EVA-1 out on EVA-2, so that we had an extra magazine on the surface. In checking things off on the checklist before ingress on the second EVA, I very brightly marked off three magazines. We had three indeed. There was the fourth magazine sitting there on the camera that we just overlooked. |
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