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Topic: Gemini 8: Recovery by rope ladder
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LM-12
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posted 05-08-2013 10:32 AM
  
Is S66-34101 a Gemini 8 photo as the caption implies? The crane does not match the crane seen in S66-26037, which is a Gemini 8 photo. |
Lasv3
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posted 05-08-2013 11:58 AM
It is definitely not, the photo shows the Gemini capsule hoisting on board of an aircraft carrier. It must be some other Gemini mission photo. |
LM-12
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posted 05-08-2013 12:05 PM
The 26037 caption is also incorrect in stating that the crew is still in the spacecraft. |
Lasv3
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posted 05-08-2013 12:35 PM
Yeah, you´re right. I always say the cS forum members shall see and review all spaceflight historical books and articles before publishing to avoid the mistakes like this  |
LM-12
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posted 05-08-2013 12:40 PM
Maybe there should be a thread devoted to mis-identified and reversed photos, if there isn't one already. |
ea757grrl
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posted 05-08-2013 12:46 PM
The JSC Digital Image Collection page has S66-34101's mission as Gemini IX. That would be consistent with the crew being inside. If I recall correctly, that happened on Gemini 6 and Gemini 9. It seems to me some Gemini 8 and Gemini 9 photos got jumbled up in the archiving process, hence the caption trouble. In either event, the ship the spacecraft is being hauled aboard in S66-34101 is the aircraft carrier Wasp, which is about the farthest thing from a Gearing-class destroyer as there could be. |
LM-12
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posted 05-08-2013 12:55 PM
Gemini 9 makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the correction. |
David C
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posted 05-08-2013 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by LM-12:
From the post-flight technical debrief regarding crew egress...
Do you happen to have a link to this technical debriefing? |
LM-12
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posted 05-08-2013 04:08 PM
Here is the link David. See page 96. |
David C
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posted 05-08-2013 05:00 PM
Great, thanks. |
J.L
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posted 05-09-2013 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by ea757grrl:
The JSC Digital Image Collection page has S66-34101's mission as Gemini IX.
For what it's worth, I think that "Internet Archive" may have caused this ID issue. I have been in touch with JSC regarding this photo that is obviously Gemini 9. Their reply... The official NASA caption from PAO had it right. The caption I transcribed is in blue ditto ink on the back of the 1966 picture and the caption was written by Bob McKinney in 1966. |
LM-12
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posted 05-09-2013 03:33 PM
The JSC Digital Image Collection does have the photo in their Gemini 9 gallery, as mentioned, but the photo description is Gemini 8. |
LM-12
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posted 08-10-2013 12:06 AM
The Gemini 8 mission report has a summary of all the photographic data taken on the flight.During recovery, 3 photographs and 600 feet of film were taken of the Gemini spacecraft in the water. 14 photographs and 800 feet of film were taken of the loading of the spacecraft onto the destroyer. 8 photographs were taken of the inspection of the spacecraft. |
Obviousman
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posted 08-10-2013 04:20 PM
That ship must have been a real "low-rider". Here is a photo of HMAS Swan, a River-class Destroyer Escort I did a couple of postings on.You'll see how I got my estimate of freeboard.  |
ejectr
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posted 08-10-2013 08:25 PM
Here is a photo of the USS Harold J Ellison DD864 that I served aboard. This was the same class destroyer that picked up Gemini 8. |
LM-12
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posted 08-10-2013 08:39 PM
The Leonard F. Mason Memorial Facebook page on March 2 has what it identifies as a photo of Neil Armstrong and also a photo of David Scott being helped out of the Gemini 8 spacecraft and up the Jacob's ladder. |
ejectr
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posted 08-11-2013 06:44 AM
Notice the guy reaching over the side to help Armstrong. Not a large distance as I previously mentioned. He could literally touch his head with his hand.Still a tricky task with a space suit on. |
LM-12
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posted 08-11-2013 08:47 AM
Here is a 1966 article about the crew arrival on Okinawa. The photo gallery in the story has some great images of both the astronauts and the Gemini 8 spacecraft onboard the destroyer.Looking at image 2, my guess is that the Jacob's ladder was located where the officers are gathered on deck beside the gun turret at the spot where the railing seems to end. Image 3 is a close-up view of Gemini 8 on the deck. |
LM-12
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posted 08-12-2013 08:34 AM
In additon to Gemini 8, the USS Leonard F. Mason (DD-852) was also part of the recovery force for Gemini 4, Gemini 5 and Apollo 9. |
LM-12
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posted 08-13-2013 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by Andy McCulley:
But here is reported to be the Mason in Hong Kong on April 10, 1966.
The Gemini 8 spacecraft was placed on the rear deck of DD-852 behind the aft gun turret. |
LM-12
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posted 08-27-2013 09:18 AM
Here is a close-up view of DD-852. |
moorouge
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posted 12-02-2013 09:50 AM
Thought you might be interested in a crew member's account of the Gemini 8 recovery - On 17 March 1966, Gemini VIII had to initiate an emergency landing southeast of Okinawa (25 degrees, 13.8 minutes North, 136 degrees, 0 minutes East). Mason was operating with the USS George K. MacKenzie (DD-836) over one hundred eighty miles to the North of the splash down site when the ship was dispatched to rescue the crew and recover the capsule. The ship initiated a full power run, with all four boilers placed online in record time. The crew of Gemini VIII, Major David R. Scott, USAF, and Neil A. Armstrong, an ex Naval Officer, were lifted aboard the Mason. The Gemini VIII capsule was then hoisted on board. Mason then headed for Kadena Air Base, Naha, Okinawa, where her distinguished passengers and cargo were offloaded the next day. The ship then proceeded to Yokosuka, Japan, arriving 20 March 1966.January of 1969 saw Mason operating as a Search And Rescue (SAR) unit in the Gulf Of Tonkin, returning to Yokosuka at the end of the month to prepare for duties as Apollo 9 standby recovery station in the Pacific. From 3 March to 13 March 1969, Mason was part of the Apollo 9 recovery force. Afterward, she was detached and headed across the equator for gunfire support duties in Vietnam. On 1 April 1971, Mason became a unit of Destroyer Squadron 17. During the first week of July 1971, Mason participated in a mid-ocean spacecraft recovery exercise with a USCG Cutter from Long Beach, California. The two ships launched from their respective home ports - the Cutter from Long Beach and Mason from San Diego - and proceeded to race to the simulated location of the downed spacecraft. The Cutter won. |
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