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Topic: Apollo 12: Playboy pin-ups in crew cufflists
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silex Member Posts: 45 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-01-2005 05:42 AM
This has probably been answered before, does anyone know were the girls from Playboy magazine were, or issue, that Apollo 12 astronauts Alan Bean and Pete Conrad had pictures of on the moon? The Apollo 12 backup crew managed to insert into the astronaut's lunar checklist (attached to the wrists of Conrad's and Bean's spacesuits) reduced sized pictures of Playboy centerfolds, surprising Conrad and Bean when they looked through the checklist flip-book during their first EVA. |
heng44 Member Posts: 3413 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 10-01-2005 06:37 AM
The Playmates were Miss September and Miss October 1967, reprised in the 1970 Playmate Calendar. Their names were Angela Dorian and Reagan Wilson. The idea was from backup commander Dave Scott. |
silex Member Posts: 45 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-01-2005 06:44 PM
Thanks guys. Reagan Wilson has a picture of her with Pete Conrad.I just e-mailed her to ask how she felt when she found out her picture had been on the moon, and a few other questions. Hope she answers. Will write to Angela Dorian by post. Just one more thing: Did both Conrad and Bean have a picture each, or did Alan Bean have both pictures? |
edmk5000 Member Posts: 49 From: Homestead, FL USA Registered: Apr 2005
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posted 10-02-2005 01:16 AM
Photo: Reagan Wilson with Pete Conrad |
silex Member Posts: 45 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-02-2005 01:50 AM
That's the picture from Reagan Wilson's website. |
Rizz Member Posts: 1208 From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 10-02-2005 02:07 AM
You can locate a Xerox copy of the images in the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, if you know where to look. |
Rob Joyner Member Posts: 1308 From: GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 10-02-2005 10:54 PM
Victoria Vetri (a.k.a. Angela Dorian) I haven't heard or seen that name since I was young! She was also an actress who appeared in a lot of B movies, but also 'Rosemary's Baby'. I remember her most from 'When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth'. |
silex Member Posts: 45 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 10-03-2005 04:51 PM
Received a reply from Reagan Wilson: Yes the picture taken to the moon was my calender shot which is 'Hey there Cowboy' which is on my site. I didn't know until years later it was taken to the moon until an article appeared in Playboy about it.Entertainment arranged a meeting with Pete Conrad and me at his Universal Space Company which was a real thrill. We had lunch with him, the producer of the show and talked about moon flight. He died on his motorcycle not long after. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 43576 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-20-2010 04:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by silex: Did both Conrad and Bean have a picture each, or did Alan Bean have both pictures?
Both cuff checklists had pictures. Conrad's checklist pictured: - Angela Dorian, Miss September 1967, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (May)
- Reagan Wilson, Miss October 1967, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (September)
Bean's checklist pictured: - Cynthia Myers, Miss December 1968, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (December)
- Leslie Bianchini, Miss January 1969, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (October)
Links are to Apollo Lunar Surface Journal scans of the corresponding cuff checklist pages (via).
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 43576 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-20-2010 04:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by heng44: The Playmates were Miss September... Angela Dorian
The Los Angeles Times' L.A. Now blog reports that Victoria Rathgeb, aka Victoria Vetri aka Angela Dorian, has been charged with attempted murder. Victoria Rathgeb, 66, is due in court Nov. 1 to answer to the charge that she intentionally shot her husband with a semiautomatic handgun.Rathgeb, being held in lieu of $1.5-million bail, was arrested Saturday after police said they responded to a reported shooting at an apartment in the 7000 block of Hawthorn Avenue in Hollywood. Her husband, identified as Bruce Rathgeb, is in grave condition at a local hospital, according to LAPD Lt. Bob Binder. Dorian's photo, accompanied by the caption, "Seen any interesting hills & valleys?" was reproduced (NSFW) from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (May) in Pete Conrad's checklist. |
keith.wilson Member Posts: 92 From: Isle of Gigha, Argyll, Scotland Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 09-10-2017 06:53 AM
Were any of the cuff checklist pages showing the playmates ever inadvertently photographed during the moonwalks? I don't mean close up - but possibly in shots of the astronauts sampling etc where they might show up if the photos were enlarged/enhanced. |
nasamad Member Posts: 2141 From: Essex, UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 09-10-2017 08:28 AM
Here you go Keith, Pete Conrad with his checklist. |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1624 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-11-2017 06:35 AM
I'm suprised that no one was disciplined for this. I am guessing it was because it didn't come out to the public, like the Apollo 15 covers. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2458 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 09-11-2017 11:14 AM
Who was responsible for the little cartoons on the opposite page of the checklist? |
Wehaveliftoff Member Posts: 2343 From: Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 09-11-2017 02:57 PM
Disciplined? They should be applauded. |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3160 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-11-2017 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by moorouge: Who was responsible for the little cartoons on the opposite page of the checklist?
I don't know, but I suspect it wasn't the late Charles M. Schulz! |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 43576 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-11-2017 04:55 PM
The Snoopy drawings and doodles in the Apollo 12 cuff checklists (and in other Apollo documents) were drawn by pre-flight operations chief Ernie Reyes (as he describes in his NASA oral history). |
SkyMan1958 Member Posts: 880 From: CA. Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 09-11-2017 04:58 PM
With regards to the question of "disciplined" for this...It was not uncommon back in the day (personal conversation) for people who were building airplanes to leave pin-ups in relatively unseen areas, so that when the plane was worked on, the mechanic and/or the crew member would find the pin-up. So, in one sense this was a continuation of the tradition. There is also a long and storied tradition of leaving pin-ups etc. in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacecraft. You can find references to this in Michael Collins, "Carrying the Fire." There were certainly more playmates/pets carried on Apollo flights after 12. PURELY in the interest of keeping this thread on track, here's the one color playmate image [blurred, but possibly still NSFW] that went on Apollo 12. It stayed up in Yankee Clipper and was found by Dick Gordon. |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1624 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-13-2017 06:13 AM
I wasn't upset that they weren't disciplined — I find it amusing personally, I was just surprised that someone didn't cause a stink over it. If people got mad over a sandwich on Gemini 3... |
silex Member Posts: 45 From: Australia Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 09-13-2017 07:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by SkyMan1958: You can find references to this in Michael Collins, "Carrying the Fire."
So does this mean Apollo 11, or LM Eagle had some?
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Skylon Member Posts: 277 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 09-14-2017 04:31 AM
Collins mentions this in reference to Gemini 10 — not Apollo 11. Two pinups were attached to the window covers used during sleep periods. The two models however weren't playmates really, but a McDonnell engineer knew them from a St. Louis Playboy Club, and according to Collins, someone nearly brought them to a public post-flight event before Deke Slayton caught wind of it. |