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silex
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posted 10-01-2005 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has probably been answered before, does anyone know were the girls from Playboy magazine were, or issue, that Apollo 12 astronauts Alan Bean and Pete Conrad had pictures of on the moon?
The Apollo 12 backup crew managed to insert into the astronaut's lunar checklist (attached to the wrists of Conrad's and Bean's spacesuits) reduced sized pictures of Playboy centerfolds, surprising Conrad and Bean when they looked through the checklist flip-book during their first EVA.

heng44
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posted 10-01-2005 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Playmates were Miss September and Miss October 1967, reprised in the 1970 Playmate Calendar. Their names were Angela Dorian and Reagan Wilson. The idea was from backup commander Dave Scott.

silex
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posted 10-01-2005 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks guys. Reagan Wilson has a picture of her with Pete Conrad.

I just e-mailed her to ask how she felt when she found out her picture had been on the moon, and a few other questions. Hope she answers.

Will write to Angela Dorian by post.

Just one more thing: Did both Conrad and Bean have a picture each, or did Alan Bean have both pictures?

edmk5000
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posted 10-02-2005 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for edmk5000   Click Here to Email edmk5000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Photo: Reagan Wilson with Pete Conrad

silex
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posted 10-02-2005 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the picture from Reagan Wilson's website.

Rizz
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posted 10-02-2005 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can locate a Xerox copy of the images in the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, if you know where to look.

Rob Joyner
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posted 10-02-2005 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rob Joyner   Click Here to Email Rob Joyner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Victoria Vetri (a.k.a. Angela Dorian) I haven't heard or seen that name since I was young! She was also an actress who appeared in a lot of B movies, but also 'Rosemary's Baby'. I remember her most from 'When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth'.

silex
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posted 10-03-2005 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received a reply from Reagan Wilson:
Yes the picture taken to the moon was my calender shot which is 'Hey there Cowboy' which is on my site. I didn't know until years later it was taken to the moon until an article appeared in Playboy about it.

Entertainment arranged a meeting with Pete Conrad and me at his Universal Space Company which was a real thrill. We had lunch with him, the producer of the show and talked about moon flight. He died on his motorcycle not long after.

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posted 10-20-2010 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silex:
Did both Conrad and Bean have a picture each, or did Alan Bean have both pictures?
Both cuff checklists had pictures.

Conrad's checklist pictured:

  • Angela Dorian, Miss September 1967, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (May)
  • Reagan Wilson, Miss October 1967, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (September)
Bean's checklist pictured:
  • Cynthia Myers, Miss December 1968, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (December)
  • Leslie Bianchini, Miss January 1969, reproduced from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (October)
Links are to Apollo Lunar Surface Journal scans of the corresponding cuff checklist pages (via).

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posted 10-20-2010 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by heng44:
The Playmates were Miss September... Angela Dorian
The Los Angeles Times' L.A. Now blog reports that Victoria Rathgeb, aka Victoria Vetri aka Angela Dorian, has been charged with attempted murder.
Victoria Rathgeb, 66, is due in court Nov. 1 to answer to the charge that she intentionally shot her husband with a semiautomatic handgun.

Rathgeb, being held in lieu of $1.5-million bail, was arrested Saturday after police said they responded to a reported shooting at an apartment in the 7000 block of Hawthorn Avenue in Hollywood.

Her husband, identified as Bruce Rathgeb, is in grave condition at a local hospital, according to LAPD Lt. Bob Binder.

Dorian's photo, accompanied by the caption, "Seen any interesting hills & valleys?" was reproduced (NSFW) from the 1970 Playmate Calendar (May) in Pete Conrad's checklist.

keith.wilson
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posted 09-10-2017 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for keith.wilson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Were any of the cuff checklist pages showing the playmates ever inadvertently photographed during the moonwalks? I don't mean close up - but possibly in shots of the astronauts sampling etc where they might show up if the photos were enlarged/enhanced.

nasamad
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posted 09-10-2017 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go Keith, Pete Conrad with his checklist.

Fra Mauro
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posted 09-11-2017 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm suprised that no one was disciplined for this. I am guessing it was because it didn't come out to the public, like the Apollo 15 covers.

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posted 09-11-2017 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moorouge   Click Here to Email moorouge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who was responsible for the little cartoons on the opposite page of the checklist?

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posted 09-11-2017 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff   Click Here to Email Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disciplined? They should be applauded.

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posted 09-11-2017 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moorouge:
Who was responsible for the little cartoons on the opposite page of the checklist?
I don't know, but I suspect it wasn't the late Charles M. Schulz!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-11-2017 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Snoopy drawings and doodles in the Apollo 12 cuff checklists (and in other Apollo documents) were drawn by pre-flight operations chief Ernie Reyes (as he describes in his NASA oral history).

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posted 09-11-2017 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With regards to the question of "disciplined" for this...

It was not uncommon back in the day (personal conversation) for people who were building airplanes to leave pin-ups in relatively unseen areas, so that when the plane was worked on, the mechanic and/or the crew member would find the pin-up. So, in one sense this was a continuation of the tradition.

There is also a long and storied tradition of leaving pin-ups etc. in the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacecraft. You can find references to this in Michael Collins, "Carrying the Fire." There were certainly more playmates/pets carried on Apollo flights after 12.

PURELY in the interest of keeping this thread on track, here's the one color playmate image [blurred, but possibly still NSFW] that went on Apollo 12. It stayed up in Yankee Clipper and was found by Dick Gordon.

Fra Mauro
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posted 09-13-2017 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't upset that they weren't disciplined — I find it amusing personally, I was just surprised that someone didn't cause a stink over it. If people got mad over a sandwich on Gemini 3...

silex
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posted 09-13-2017 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
You can find references to this in Michael Collins, "Carrying the Fire."
So does this mean Apollo 11, or LM Eagle had some?

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posted 09-14-2017 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skylon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Collins mentions this in reference to Gemini 10 — not Apollo 11. Two pinups were attached to the window covers used during sleep periods.

The two models however weren't playmates really, but a McDonnell engineer knew them from a St. Louis Playboy Club, and according to Collins, someone nearly brought them to a public post-flight event before Deke Slayton caught wind of it.

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