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nfc9rfan
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posted 08-04-2011 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my father's Apollo 11 launch VIP badge. After helping strap in the astronauts and closing the hatch putting his stamp on the capsule, he was the last man off the launch pad. The badge number is 2086.

I was wondering if anyone knew what the value of this badge might be?

ilbasso
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posted 08-04-2011 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have a scan of the badge? If it's one of the badges like shown below, these have ranged from $50-$250. They show up on eBay relatively frequently. Having your father's history behind it may increase its desirability somewhat, especially if there's something special added to it to indicate his role.

nfc9rfan
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posted 08-04-2011 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes that is the one. My dad calls it his 15 minutes of fame. It is a great story of his role in the launch of Apollo 11.

garymilgrom
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posted 08-04-2011 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The badge pictured seems to be a launch ticket. The OP indicated his father was on the close out crew. Wouldn't that mean he had a different badge which allowed access to the pad and perhaps the white room, not just the launch viewing?

J.L
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posted 08-04-2011 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.L   Click Here to Email J.L     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gary is right... no one is heading for the white room with that VIP badge.

nfc9rfan
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posted 08-04-2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are probably right. This may be the badge my Mom wore while waiting for my Father to come down from the Pad. He just turned 87 last week but is still sharp as a tack. He has some great stories of NASA and the Apollo program.

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posted 08-04-2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure the cS members here would love to hear any stories your folks might have. Thanks in advance! Maybe you could collect their stories into some kind of journal or book - good luck.

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posted 08-04-2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you father say he watched the launch with your mother? I don't know enough about the closeout crew practices back in Apollo, but during shuttle, the closeout crew would never go to the VIP site to watch the launch. They fallback and stand ready should an abort or other emergency require the crew to egress the pad.

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posted 08-04-2011 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you look at photos of the NASA VIPs inside Firing Room 1 during the Apollo 11 launch, some of them are also wearing this same launch badge, in addition to their Firing Room access badges and NASA IDs. I think it was likely issued as a commemorative for the NASA workers who were at KSC on launch day, in addition to the invited guests.

For example, look at this photo of Werner von Braun after the launch.

nfc9rfan
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posted 08-05-2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Father told me he was the crew chief and after helping strap in the astronauts he and the other guys closed the hatch. They all put a stamp on the hatch and he had the rest of the crew go. Once the area was clear he then entered the elevator and pushed the red button. He said the elevator went down at 600 feet a second leaving your ass up there. He then entered a military vehicle that was waiting for him to transport him to a viewing area where my Mom was.

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posted 11-23-2011 03:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am considering selling the badge and don't really know what it is worth. Any ideas?

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Please don't sell the badge. It is part of your family's history and legacy. While I'm sure people here would be interested, I would feel bad for you if you sold it because a few years down the line you will almost certainly regret the decision.

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posted 11-23-2011 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do decide to sell, they tend to go for around $250-300 recently.

cosmos-walter
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posted 11-23-2011 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, tell us the name of your father. Perhaps some cS'er knows him.

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posted 11-23-2011 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 413 is in   Click Here to Email 413 is in     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The light blue colored variant of this badge just sold for $120 + 15%BP at Lunar Legacies Auction on 11/19/11 (Lot #229).

Also, a discussion of this type of badge can be found in this thread.

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posted 11-23-2011 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your father's name would be a big help in selling this badge. There are pictures of the closeout crew with Apollo 11 in the White Room - it would be great to be able to identify him in the photo and then tell the story about how he left there and went to watch the launch. That would add interest and value to the badge. I doubt that it would go for much more than $300 though.

nfc9rfan
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posted 11-23-2011 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Dad is Charles Anderson. He went by Chuck or Charlie.

nfc9rfan
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posted 11-23-2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only reason I would sell the badge is because it is sitting in a box in my closet. You guys are collectors and would probably display it and do it justice.

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posted 11-23-2011 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do sell the badge, have your father write up a short description of his role in the Apollo 11 launch (or you can write/type it based on what he tells you and have him sign it). Include that history with the badge. That way, your father's role in history stays attached to this collectible...and it's not just some anonymous badge floating around from collection to collection. Not only will that make the badge more valuable, but it will be more meaningful too.

(Edit: Oops, I see that ilbasso has already expressed that idea in an earlier posting...which I somehow missed seeing.)

Also, for your own family's sake, you might want to record your father's memories someday soon. Use a tape recorder (or some other audio recording device) to collect those memories. You will never regret doing so! (Additionally, he might be a good candidate to participate in NASA's Oral History Project. You might want to contact them to see if they are interested in interviewing him.)

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posted 11-23-2011 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I will contact my Father and see if he would like to participate in something like that.

nfc9rfan
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posted 11-26-2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nfc9rfan   Click Here to Email nfc9rfan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did find some photos of my Dad on the internet with the close out crew, but I don't have the rights to them so I can't post them.

Ross
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posted 11-27-2011 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ross   Click Here to Email Ross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can always post the link to them or at least the link to the webpage they're on.

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posted 12-02-2011 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The scan of the Apollo 11 badge above looks like it has a gray background.

Does anyone know the difference from that badge, compared to an Apollo 11 Badge that has a blue background, like this one?

I wonder why they weren't the same color, but yet looked exactly alike.

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posted 12-02-2011 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Ken Havekotte, the blue version of the badge was reserved for the more high profile VIPs while the gray version was for more general use.

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posted 12-02-2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert.

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posted 09-05-2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for billewald   Click Here to Email billewald     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW... how ironic that I am working with the family selling items from the estate of my late friend Mike Levine, and in researching one of his items I find he is still able to lead me in the right direction.

After googling one of these badges that Mike owned I am brought to this site where he has the last comment. The badge I am researching is a No. 02 and came from Shirley Ferguson the executive secretary of Debus.

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posted 09-05-2014 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dragon001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by garymilgrom:
Maybe you could collect their stories into some kind of journal or book - good luck.
I'd definitely agree with collecting stories. Even ask permission to use audio recordings as this is done. Just turn the recorder on, and let the folks talk. I wish I did that with my grandfather's war service (served and interacted with Gen. Stilwell) prior to his passing.

Please don't pass on an opportunity to record these great memories. I was too young to ask an older second cousin to do with her cousin (referenced above), third cousins or such to Kurt Debus. We have letters from him to her and back regarding the shared genealogy - but no program stories.

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