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Topic: Suggestions for replica space patch projects?
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GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-13-2012 07:44 PM
   
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Originally posted by Apollo 8:
It's a long time ago, that I found those sketches for the three patches somewhere in the internet (I can't remember where) and loaded them down on my PC.
There are several "Apollo 18" patches out there created for screen and stage productions centered on a hypothetical such mission, as well as a Gordon-Brand-Schmitt design on eBay right now (erroneously listed as associated with the recent "Apollo 18" film) that I've seen before but of what provenance I have no idea... maybe someone else here does.In any case, no Apollo 18 crew was ever officially assigned, so as Chris states, any "Apollo 18" patch artwork or productions out there are speculative or outright fantasy. |
mode1charlie
Member Posts: 1169
From: Honolulu, HI
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 12-13-2012 10:55 PM
First of all, a big mahalo nui (thank you) to Chris for the Apollo 8 Christmas patch - what a nice surprise! He is such an asset to the space collecting community and if you haven't ordered some of his patches you absolutely should. His integrity and commitment to quality are really outstanding. And I'm not just saying this because he bribed me with the patch!  As for future patches, the choices are getting harder but my vote would be for the Grumman Lunar Module KSC patch and some of the early NASA vector patches. Possibly an STS-1 four-color patch. Recovery patches don't really flip my switch, although Chris, you can count on my future support regardless. Merry Christmas! |
lm5eagle
Member Posts: 429
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Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 12-14-2012 09:43 AM
A replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch would be very welcome. I was delighted to read above that this one is an early earmark on your agenda.Today, I received your Crew Patches limited edition Christmas special patch. That is giving me much pleasure, Chris and I would like to express my sincere thanks to you - a gesture completely in the spirit of Christmas, |
mama04
Member Posts: 151
From: Haarlem, N-H, Netherlands
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 12-15-2012 02:16 AM
First of all Chris, thank you so much for your wonderful Christmas gift. Your Christmas Apollo 8 patch will get a special place in my collection. Very happy with it and I really, really appreciate the gesture!As for future projects, I think a good replica of the Apollo 11 patch would be great. That said, I will buy any future replica patches you decide to make. They are all wonderful and make excellent additions to any space patch collection. For those of you haven't bought these great patches from Chris yet, do not hesitate any longer and buy them while you still can! |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 12-15-2012 01:49 PM
Likewise. My hat goes off to Chris for his very kind gesture by way of an Apollo 8 inspired Christmas patch. Very nice and much appreciated. Thank you! |
sts205cdr
Member Posts: 649
From: Sacramento, CA
Registered: Jun 2001
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posted 12-15-2012 11:23 PM
Any chance of a sanctioned patch for the Ancient and Honorable Order of Turtles? |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-17-2012 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by p51:
Did the T-38 operations have any special patches in the Apollo era? If so, I'd love one of those.
When you wrote this I didn't make the link with the NASA MSC T-38 patch which is one I'd thought about doing before. I don't know how much demand there is out there but it's a patch I like with a strong association to the astronauts. Domestic production might be possible if I can sell enough. Would a limited numbered edition of around 100 be popular? |
Tom
Member Posts: 1597
From: New York
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-17-2012 09:49 AM
I vote for the astronaut group patches. |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-17-2012 11:19 AM
A quick Google image search turned up pictures of auction lots that included several vintage NASA flight jackets (nametags said "Jere Cobb") adorned with a blue-on-white arrowhead-shaped patch reading "NASA MSC" and an overhead silhouette of a T-38 on the right shoulder, as well as a round "Lunar Landing Training Vehicle" patch on the left chest. I'd be interested in either, or both  |
mooncollector
Member Posts: 104
From: Alabama, USA
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted 12-17-2012 06:29 PM
I would also love to see Mercury patches with the Cece Bibby artwork. A Faith 7 would be easiest to do with the star shape and faithfully reproduced. The others could be on a black twill background, maybe with an irregular shape fitting the design and unique for each mission.The recovery ship patches would also be a great addition. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 02-21-2013 04:39 PM
As noted in this post, my first patch project of 2013 is now completed, a replica of the NASA MSC T-38 patch.Taking into account some of the comments in this thread I've gone for US production on this patch run. Since this is seriously expensive I've made this a 100 limited run in order to be able to maintain my regular pricing. I'm also actively working on a high quality replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch which should see the light of day in the next month or two. |
Gonzo
Member Posts: 596
From: Lansing, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 02-21-2013 10:22 PM
Looking forward to the A-11 patch. Keep us posted on your progress! |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-19-2013 10:33 AM
My Apollo 11 crew patch replica project is still ongoing but making good progress.The original is such a detailed patch with so many different thread colors that to be honest I wasn't sure that a decent replica could really be produced on modern machinery. However, AB Emblem have had their best people working on the artwork and I've been my usual perfectionist self (which I'm sure is a real pain for the manufacturer) and I believe the end result will be worth it. The latest pre-production sample has proven to me that modern machinery really can produce a similar level of detail to the originals. Realistically it'll probably be another couple of months before I have them on sale but I just wanted to let people know that this project is ongoing. |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 03-19-2013 10:40 AM
Thanks for the update, Chris. Given your previous patches' quality, I'm sure these will be well worth the wait. |
mode1charlie
Member Posts: 1169
From: Honolulu, HI
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 03-19-2013 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
...I'm sure these will be well worth the wait.
Absolutely.I'm curious though as to why modern machinery has a hard time reproducing the quality/complexity of the originals. I don't doubt that that's true, just curious why that's the case. Seems like computer-controlled threading (if that's the right phrase) should make that all easier not harder - so obviously I'm unaware of something. |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-19-2013 06:30 PM
Got my two MSC T-38 patches yesterday They look GREAT! One is for my collection and I will be proud to wear the other one on one of my flight jackets. Thank You, Chris, for these wonderful replicas! |
David C
Member Posts: 1014
From: Lausanne
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 03-23-2013 11:41 AM
Thanks Chris, very happy with my T-38 patches, I've wanted these for ages. Can't wait for your Apollo 11 release.In my opinion, there's still plenty of future project material left, these are my top hopefulls: - NASA vector white border, preferably 4" (HSFRC/DFRC), but a 3" Mercury or Gemini version would be fine too.
- Gemini IX. Most of Gene Dorr's replicas are great, but I feel that the colours on this one are a bit off, the name tab would be nice to have as well. Collectors can cut it off if they wish - like the original.
- Apollo 9. Both the AB and Lion Brother's versions have awful renditions of the Saturn V. I currently only use beta cloth versions for display.
- LLTV, I just like it.
- STS "Mach 25". I have a pretty good replica produced by a guy on here (I'm sorry, but your name escapes me right now). I reckon that Chris could do even better.
Looking forward to all your projects. |
Bill Nelson
Member Posts: 151
From: Lakewood, Colorado U.S.A.
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 03-25-2013 06:07 PM
Here are some patch project ideas. - The oval Skylab patch I have seen being worn by some Skylab astronauts in training
- The original Gemini 6 GTA 6 patch
- The Gemini 11 backup patch.
If you ever consider making some from the shuttle era: - STS-61E that actually looks like the real one as opposed to the earlier souvenir one.
- the blue and yellow Expedition 1 patch with crews names i have seen being worn by the crew in preflight training.
Also, would you eve be interested in putting out replicas of some patches from space related movies, such as Pilgrim 1 from Countdown, Ironman One from Marooned and Camelot Odyssey from Stowaway to the Moon? |
carl walker
Member Posts: 360
From: Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 03-25-2013 06:53 PM
Here's a one-off replica I made for personal use a few years ago, artwork created from video stills. James Caan's Pilgrim One patch from Countdown. Wrote several times to Time-Warner for copyright enquiry, but no response. Anyone welcome to my artwork if you want to try again. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 03-25-2013 08:27 PM
The 1985 released in 1986 Space Camp movie version patch. |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 03-25-2013 09:22 PM
I believe Chris has said earlier on these boards that he has no interest in producing replicas of post-Apollo designs (whether that includes Skylab I'm not sure) or in purely fictional insignia (movies, TV, etc.)If anyone else is game, obviously there will be some interest. |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 04-03-2013 11:24 PM
How do you feel about a fantasy/concept patch for a crew that never flew (due to unforeseen events)? Do you think a fantasy patch for that unflown crew is distasteful? It may be a design the crew had no input on, and is entirely conjectural in nature. Is it something you as a patch collector would be interested in? I am working on several designs of this nature and I am just wondering if I made some limited run batches, would the be shunned or accepted by the community at large? |
David C
Member Posts: 1014
From: Lausanne
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 04-04-2013 07:34 PM
Unless it's something like say a Gemini IX fantasy patch for See and Bassett or a fantasy Apollo 12 with Williams (i.e. dead astronauts), I would not find it distasteful. I would however find any fantasy patch pointless and not buy one.Sorry, just my view.
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Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 04-04-2013 08:17 PM
So in your opinion a fantasy patch for a deceased crew member would be distasteful? |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 04-04-2013 09:00 PM
David C stated: "I would not find it distasteful." He just wouldn't purchase one. |
David C
Member Posts: 1014
From: Lausanne
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 04-05-2013 04:49 AM
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Let me put it another way. I wouldn't buy any fantasy patch, and I do find a patch including a deceased crew member distasteful.The murky area would be a patch for an actual mission/event including a deceased crewman — such as say Grissom and MR-4. I guess that would depend on what it was like, whether relatives and colleagues approved, etc. I suppose, contrary to my previous statement, the original Gemini IX falls into the murky category also. Still not keen though. Other opinions? |
perineau
Member Posts: 218
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 04-05-2013 11:53 AM
I think honoring the memory of the original Gemini 9 crew with a memorial patch would be a good idea - as others, they gave their lives to the program and country that they served... |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 04-05-2013 06:59 PM
In the case of, say, Gemini IX, when you say "memorial" that would be something to the effect of a dated/anniversary commemorative rather than a fantasy crew patch? |
perineau
Member Posts: 218
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 04-06-2013 02:10 AM
Precisely! |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 04-22-2013 11:33 PM
I have produced a limited run of patches commemorating the Apollo 4/AS-501 mission. My intention was to make the design as simple as possible and to keep it "period".More information can be found at The Space Patch Database. Special thanks to Tim Gagnon for his help in getting this patch out there. Another concept patch for Apollo 6/AS-502 to follow in the coming weeks. |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 04-30-2013 05:58 PM
Does anyone know who produced (and in what quantity) the Apollo 9 "ap09-em4" replica patch on genedorr.com?I have never seen one on eBay or referenced anywhere but on that site. I am wondering if an additional run of 50-100 patches of that quality and accuracy are worth the time and effort. I already have an Apollo 4 patch scheduled to start delivery May 6, 2013 with an Apollo 6 design to follow. I am debating if I should then turn my resources to an Apollo 9 reproduction run or additional concept patches (of my own design). |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 05-01-2013 02:33 AM
Those Apollo 9 patches were part of a modern set most likely made by Cape Kennedy Medals. See this thread for images.I don't know how many were made but you don't see them very often. The Al Bishop collection that I acquired included a dozen examples of this particular patch. I resold the extras on eBay and they were snapped up pretty quickly. |
Liembo
Member Posts: 583
From: Bothell, WA
Registered: Jan 2013
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posted 05-01-2013 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by spaced out:
Those Apollo 9 patches were part of a modern set most likely made by Cape Kennedy Medals.
Thank you for the information!
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David C
Member Posts: 1014
From: Lausanne
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 05-10-2013 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Liembo:
...I am debating if I should then turn my resources to an Apollo 9 reproduction run or additional concept patches (of my own design).
Well I'd certainly be interested in a good Apollo 9 crew patch replica. |
p51
Member Posts: 1642
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 05-10-2013 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by garyd2831:
The 1985 released in 1986 Space Camp movie version patch.
Yeah, I'd love one, too. I'm pretty sure that's still a trademarked design. Space Camp's gift shop made copies of them in 2007 for the 25th anniversary of the opening of the real Space Camp. Sadly, they were bought up quickly and everyone seems to have kept them. I've been looking for almost 2 years and I've never seen one for sale anywhere, at any price. None have ever turned up on eBay in that timeframe. I've asked the marketing folks at Space Camp if they'll ever make another run, but all I got was a big helping of non-answer. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 05-10-2013 03:19 PM
From what I can tell. the reproduction Space Camp patches look a little different than the movie version. I would like a nice movie version one made if that would be ever possible.I wonder whatever happened to the movie props? |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 578
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 05-13-2013 07:02 AM
About Apollo 9, see [ap09-em4] in Gene Dorr's website.It was made by ? and did sell by Spaceflight Now many years ago. I also think it was the best repro I ever saw. |
Ronpur
Member Posts: 1211
From: Brandon, Fl
Registered: May 2012
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posted 05-13-2013 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by KAPTEC:
I also think it was the best repro I ever saw.
That is beautiful!! I would love a repro like that! |
embangloy
Member Posts: 75
From: Nashville, TN, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 05-14-2013 11:44 AM
For those that are interested, I still have some of the STS-62A "Revisited" patches available for sale. An updated description and price can be viewed here.Thank you Liem for posting this on your site. |
David C
Member Posts: 1014
From: Lausanne
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 06-17-2013 08:59 AM
How about a version of the Apollo 11 patch the way it was originally designed by the crew? In other words a more natural Eagle pose - with the olive branch in it's beak and open talons for landing. See Mike Collin's comments in his book. |
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