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spaced out
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posted 12-07-2012 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having covered the Grumman LM insignias, replicas of the LM-1 and LM-3 patches, and replicas of 2TV-1, LTA-8, and others, does anyone have any bright ideas for me to make as my next replicas?

I prefer to stick to the pre-Shuttle period for a number of reasons, not least the fact that by sticking to plastic backings and pre-Shuttle patches there is no risk of my replicas being confused for vintage patches in the future.

Snoopy-based designs are out for copyright reasons.

Otherwise I'm open to suggestions.

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posted 12-07-2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perineau   Click Here to Email perineau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, a Gemini 9 memorial crew patch for Bassett and See.

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posted 12-07-2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did the T-38 operations have any special patches in the Apollo era? If so, I'd love one of those.

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posted 12-07-2012 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe patches/insignia carried by Navy UDT and other spacecraft recovery forces during Apollo?

lucspace
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posted 12-08-2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like an Apollo 11 'Texas art' replica; also, the Apollo program patch, although never worn by crews, merits a version faithful to the original art.

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posted 12-08-2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's my tuppence worth. Having recently picked up a 5" Skylab II patch and already owning the Apollo 17 5" initialled crew patches, how about a set of 5" Apollos 1 through 17. As no others have ever been manufactured they would be completely original so no chance of anyone passing them off as vintage. I'd assume the bigger area would guarantee a better image but also that the cost of producing them may be prohibitive.

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posted 12-08-2012 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
  • Gemini 9 Bassett/See memorial patch - I don't really do memorial patches, only replicas of patches or designs that existed at the time. This would be more a project for Tim Gagnon, although he's already created a fallen astronauts patch design.

  • T-38 operations - I don't know of such a patch. Would probably be a pretty small market which would make it very difficult to break even on it. I don't produce these patches to make money as such but I do hope that they will eventually break even otherwise I'm effectively running a charity.

  • Navy UDT patches - a possibility maybe, but again I would expect the market to be very small.

  • Apollo 11 crew patch replica - worth thinking about. Do any collectors not have one of the originals already though?

  • Set of 5" Apollo patches - interesting idea. As you say it should be possible to get closer to the original artwork on a larger area but they would be more costly to make. I guess the key thing would be how many people would want to buy these patches?

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posted 12-08-2012 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for perineau   Click Here to Email perineau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another "lighter" idea - a patch for Mercury 2 (Ham) and Mercury 5 (Enos)

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posted 12-08-2012 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris - my vote would also be for a replica of the A-11 Texas Art patch. You asked if collectors don't already have one. According to your own site, with recent sales being in the neighborhood of the $500-$700 range, I'd venture to that not many have one. (And I for one would be in that group with only Texas Art and the Space Spin-off patches missing from my collection.) A replica would therefore make sense to me!

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posted 12-08-2012 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Besixdouze   Click Here to Email Besixdouze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gonzo. Forward me your mailing address. I have a spare Space Spin Off Apollo 11 I'd be happy to let you have, this being the Festive Season and everything.

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posted 12-08-2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroborg   Click Here to Email astroborg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second (or third!) the Apollo 11 Texas Art replica, as seen on the BIGs that the crew wore post-mission.

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I would like to suggest a replica of the original Gemini 6 patch, GTA 6, with the Agena target vehicle in the design. It would also be good to have replicas of the two Gemini 9 variants, one withe crew names on a tab, and the other with the names across the patch.

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posted 12-08-2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would make a motion to a very detailed Apollo 11 crew patch.

How about some vintage looking Mercury and Gemini era NASA Vector/Meatballs?

If the space shuttle was an option, STS-1 through 4 with some kind of hallmark to identify original vs replica.

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posted 12-08-2012 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not quite a replica, but a set of quality Mercury patches featuring the spacecraft names as stenciled or painted by Cece Bibby on the capsules would be desirable.

I know there was an earlier set created, but their quality left something to be desired.

I could imagine each patch taking the shape and appropriate background stitching to look like a shingle from the capsule.

Not only would these supplant the rather poor souvenir Mercury designs now produced by AB Emblem, but pay tribute to the recently departed Cece Bibby.

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posted 12-08-2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second Robert's idea for some Mercury patches.

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posted 12-08-2012 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidcwagner   Click Here to Email davidcwagner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Russian/USSR patches? Like the ones on Leonov's suit during his spacewalk.

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posted 12-08-2012 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:
This would be more a project for Tim Gagnon, although he's already created a fallen astronauts patch design.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Chris. I'd be happy to work up a See and Bassett patch. But the Fallen Astronauts 12 inch commemorative isn't mine.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 12-09-2012 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by davidcwagner:
How about Russian/USSR patches? Like the ones on Leonov's suit during his spacewalk.
This is a great idea as I had a look at those in the past. But there is the copyright issue. Maybe Chris does have the right connections to solve this.

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posted 12-09-2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by garyd2831:
I second Robert's idea for some Mercury patches.
Me too. A great idea I was thinking on it for years...

And the Basset and See patch... I like it but are we sure they had sometime their names on the known patch?

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posted 12-09-2012 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I feel, You could do some more fine replicas for the Grumman-Collection:
  1. Grumman LM Ground Support Patch (it would be great to have a real good replica of this patch!)
  2. Grumman Lunar Module KSC Patch
  3. Grumman Lunar Module Patch
  4. Grumman logo Patch (if there are no problems with any copyrights)
...and I am always looking (and never found some) for good replicas of
  1. Recovery Patches of the Gemini and Apollo era
I am so interested in the Apollo era and it would be real great for me, to add Recovery Patch replicas to my collection!

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posted 12-10-2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like the Grumman/LM-related ideas.

As an aside, this seems like as good a place as any to thank Chris for the very cool (and totally unexpected) little Christmas gift I received from him today...AWESOME!

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I said "thank You" to Chris via Email, but this is the right place to post it again. This Christmas Special Commemorative Patch is a WONDERFUL gift for someone whose nickname is "Apollo 8"! - Tomorrow I am going to frame it together with my Lion Brothers Apollo 8 Patch (bought from Chris), my Apollo 8 25th Anniversary Patch and my Frank Borman autograph.

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posted 12-10-2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the many suggestions above.

I am going to be tackling a replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch first, although this could be pretty challenging to replicate. Believe it or not the design uses no less than 13 separate colors of thread which goes a long way towards explaining why it looks so true to the original artwork.

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posted 12-10-2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
...this seems like as good a place as any to thank Chris for the very cool (and totally unexpected) little Christmas gift I received from him today...AWESOME!
I echo these thoughts. A very pleasant surprise. Thanks Chris!

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posted 12-10-2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cascader   Click Here to Email Cascader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too received one of "Apollo 8 " Christmas patches, many many thanks.

My thought on replica patches would be a Yuri Gagarin patch showing the historic first flight. I have a Russian pin commemorating the event. I will send scan to you Chris.

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posted 12-11-2012 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I am looking forward to your replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch! — That's an interesting project and I sure will buy one...

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As we say in Spain... (literal translate), "better late than never"... Thank you very much Chris for that wonderful patch. It will be shown in a honor place in my collection because it is a very important sign of friendship for me. Happy Christmas also for you and for all of you who read this thread my friends.

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posted 12-11-2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I received kind of a great surprise: a "real space Christmas patch" (Apollo 8) from Chris. That's a great gift and I enjoy it very much.

We collectors have to thank you for these really great patches you made in the past and you turned it the other way around: you are sending a gift patch to all collectors in contact with you.

That's a great idea.

To all of you collectors: A Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year.

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posted 12-11-2012 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I'm pleased to see you are working on an Apollo 11 patch. I know personally that I will purchase a number of them. I believe you will have a fare to strong market for them.

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I would love to see commemorative patches for each of the Mir Expeditions. There were 28 in total and the earlier ones had no patches.

Likewise for the Soyuz/Salyut missions for which no patches were produced.

Also I would like to see a patch for each of the SpaceShipOne spaceflights on its way to the X PRIZE.

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posted 12-11-2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TAE original artwork A-11? Chris, really? Can I make a pre-order?

I agree, I think there will be a big market (relatively speaking) for this patch. I for one will take several!

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posted 12-12-2012 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something I would like to add to my Apollo collection are "replicas" (they are not real replicas because these patches never existed) of the designs, that were done for the Apollo missions 18, 19 and 20, that never were flown.

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posted 12-12-2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No artwork was ever created for the Apollo 18+ missions, so anything you might see is complete fiction.

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posted 12-12-2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One question on the Apollo 11 crew patch replica. A lot of people grumble about the fact that most patches are made in China but are you willing to pay the price for a 'domestic' product.

This replica is going to be expensive to make already due to the multiple colors (the patches have to be put through the machines twice) so I'm going to be struggling to price them at my usual $15. If I have them made in the US then I would have to sell them for maybe $19. Is that going to work or am I just going to end up with lower sales so the project never breaks even?

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posted 12-12-2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl walker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, what's the cost of them made in Europe, have you tried Stewarts in UK?


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posted 12-12-2012 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd have no problem paying US $19-20 each.

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posted 12-12-2012 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris, I would pay $20 a patch to have them made here in the United States. It hits us here at home and that this was a United States program. Keep it "Made in the USA" on this one!

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posted 12-12-2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gonzo   Click Here to Email Gonzo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto on the above comments! $20 per? Can I pre-order yet?

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posted 12-12-2012 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I'm another one of those fossils who still gets a bit irked at seeing "Made in China" on these things. Since an accurate Texas Art Apollo 11 replica would be a "star" in my humble collection, as stated above I'd pay a premium of a few dollars to have them made in the USA.

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posted 12-13-2012 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo 8   Click Here to Email Apollo 8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
20 USD would be O.K. for a high-quality replica patch!
quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:
No artwork was ever created for the Apollo 18+ missions, so anything you might see is complete fiction.
I did not know that! It's a long time ago, that I found those sketches for the three patches somewhere in the internet (I can't remember where) and loaded them down on my PC.


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