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hoorenz
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posted 08-15-2011 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not much, but first glimpse of ISS Expedition 31 patch. I can already tell you that it was designed by Luc van den Abeelen, with input from the crew.

Another clue here: The simplified shirt art.

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ISS Expedition 31 mission patch

The International Space Station's (ISS) Expedition 31 begins with the scheduled undocking of Soyuz TMA-22 in March 2012. Three new crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz TMA-04M.


Source: NASA

Expedition 31 will be commanded by Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko. His crewmates, all flight engineers, include: cosmonauts Gennady Padalka and Sergei Revin, NASA astronauts Don Pettit and Joe Acaba, and ESA astronaut André Kuipers.

The ISS Expedition 31 insignia was designed by artist Luc van den Abeelen.

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posted 08-15-2011 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both the Expedition 31 and the Soyuz TMA-03M patches are outstanding. Super Job Luc!

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posted 08-16-2011 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did anyone else do a double-take and think Tom Stafford while looking at the pic?

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posted 08-16-2011 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well done Luc! Congratulations.

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posted 08-16-2011 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lm5eagle   Click Here to Email lm5eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great patch, Luc. Look forward to getting one from spacepatches.nl in due course?!

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posted 08-16-2011 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lm5eagle:
Look forward to getting one from spacepatches.nl in due course?!

Although Expedition-31 has a Russian commander, Luc worked directly with the crew and we were perfectly able to prepare the final artwork ourselves, we had to follow the "official" American route. The art had to be submitted to NASA-JSC, who changed a thing or two and placed the order with AB Emblem. So, that is where you will be able to get the official NASA-approved version of the patch.

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posted 08-23-2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the patch photo from ESA photogallery:

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posted 08-23-2011 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a prototype of the AB Emblem patch. Not that the final version changed much: the only difference is that the names of Padalka and Revin on this prototype are in a larger font than the other four names, which had to be corrected.

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posted 08-23-2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very different design. Looks similar to the symbol used for a hurricane...very nice!

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posted 08-23-2011 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it represents a galaxy... Isn't it Erik? Very nice!

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posted 08-23-2011 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Milky Way, yes. Design should be rotated slightly (see simplified shirt embroidery).

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posted 08-23-2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I guess we're still going back to the moon and Mars? Realistically there should be an asteroid in the patch... at least we're planning on going there some day.
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Originally posted by Tom:
Looks similar to the symbol used for a hurricane...
I believe it would have to be a hurricane in the southern hemisphere. The coreolis effect spins hurricanes that affect the US in the counter clockwise direction. Looks to me that the patch designs spins in the clockwise.

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Originally posted by dogcrew5369:
...at least we're planning on going there some day.
This shouldn't become a thread to debate current U.S. policy, but as outlined by NASA, an asteroid is only the first of deep space targets being planned, with the moon and Mars to follow.

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posted 08-24-2011 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Allow me a final remark on the subject: it is great that NASA wants to fly to an asteroid, but this is a patch designed to the wishes of an international crew, not only consisting of two Americans, but also three Russians (including the commander) and a European.

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posted 08-24-2011 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skyforce1   Click Here to Email Skyforce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Different kind of shape for a patch, rather unique, quirky but still a tad boring. Nice colors though!

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posted 08-24-2011 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the shape. It's different and that's good. It looks like there was a lot of thought and imagination put into designing this patch. It looks great!! Congratulations on NASA approving it.

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posted 08-24-2011 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The original artwork is even better than the patch.

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posted 08-25-2011 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right Tim: very much better...

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posted 08-25-2011 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did I mention I like the patch.

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posted 09-07-2011 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for johntosullivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry but I don't like it. Maybe with a border to define the edge, it might be better.

Galaxies are normally displayed as white or light colours. Maybe that should have been the background colour.

It looks a bit blobby.

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posted 09-08-2011 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogcrew5369   Click Here to Email dogcrew5369     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why, but it made me think of the cloud entity on Star Trek The Motion Picture. My earlier comment about liking it was a little tongue-in-cheek to get away from my earlier apparent political statement. Being that the "galaxy" is so dark maybe it's dark energy

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posted 09-08-2011 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice design, but the unusual shape must make it a bear to sew on to clothing.

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posted 09-08-2011 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by johntosullivan:
I'm sorry but I don't like it. Maybe with a border to define the edge, it might be better. It looks a bit blobby.
I agree. Like the concept; not crazy about the execution.

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posted 09-13-2011 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The artwork for the ISS Expedition 31 patch has been replaced above with the official NASA version (in both low and high resolution).

For reference, here is the art that was earlier posted, as released by ESA.


Source: ESA/EAC

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posted 09-13-2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jacques van Oene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS is in this NASA version orange instead of yellow, and the names are different also... I'm sure Luc made ISS yellow... So like with Expedition'30, NASA has chanced the work of the artist, very very strange.

Can anybody at NASA comment on this?

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posted 09-13-2011 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be interviewing Don Pettit next Tuesday (Sept. 20) and will ask him about the patch.

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posted 09-13-2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To give you a better idea of what we are talking about, a high resolution image of Luc's original artwork can be found here. It is the version that was designed together with the crew and was submitted to NASA, but now moved down in this thread as being "not official".

One of the first things that stands out when you compare the two versions, is indeed the orange ISS. Actually, this is something NASA changed just three weeks ago. In their initial re-creation of the design, ISS was still yellow with an orange outline. It looks like NASA has changed their "official" art in retrospective to match the embroidery. There is more, including a couple of issues with the fonts. Some of these were corrected at AB Emblem, but were not updated in the NASA art.

Here is an example of how much the original artwork "improved" in the hands of NASA:

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posted 09-14-2011 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm surprised that JSC graphics department can change a crew — and management — approved patch design. A real pity, as I feel the NASA-version is less interesting than my original design. I did design it with an effect in mind, and that is now gone, resulting in quite a bland version.

Anyway, before more 'editing' takes place, this is the description of the patch I submitted for NASA use:

Expedition 31 patch description

The shape of the patch is a stylized representation of an oblique view of our galaxy. The background is black in colour, to represent the expanse of deep space. It also symbolizes the research into dark matter, one of the scientific objectives of Expedition 31.

At the heart of the patch are the Earth, the Moon and Mars, our home in the galaxy and the focus of current and future exploration.

The completed complex of the International Space Station features at the top of half an orbit around the Earth, for the half-year expedition aboard the station. Brightly coloured, it signals the pride of the accomplishment of building this unique international facility.

A collection of stars completes the orbit. The three large stars are for the Expedition 31 crew; the smaller ones represent the Expedition 30 crew that took up residence aboard the ISS before them.

A number of small stars, represented by dots, symbolize the visiting vehicles that will dock with the orbital complex during
this expedition.

Thin crescents along the horizons of Earth and moon, and along the orbit, depict the number of this ISS expedition: 31.

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Originally posted by lucspace:
I'm surprised that JSC graphics department can change a crew — and management — approved patch design.
It was apparently the Astronaut Office, not the graphics department, that made the changes after going through the patch sample process with AB Emblem.

Here is the official description of the patch, as approved by the Astronaut Office:

Expedition 31 patch description

Thin crescents along the horizons of the Earth and Moon depict International Space Station (ISS) Expedition 31.

The shape of the patch represents a view of our galaxy. The black background symbolizes the research into dark matter, one of the scientific objectives of Expedition 31.

At the heart of the patch are the Earth, Moon, Mars, and asteroids, the focus of current and future exploration.

The ISS is shown in an orbit around the Earth, with a collection of stars for the Expedition 30 and 31 crews. The small stars symbolize the visiting vehicles that will dock with the complex during this expedition.

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posted 09-14-2011 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is quite shameful...

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posted 09-14-2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is shameful of making changes to a design after seeing the original art embroidered?

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posted 09-14-2011 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The JSC graphics department changes of an artist design.

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Again, the graphics department was only following the instructions of the Astronaut Office.

Even though astronauts may choose to work with outside volunteer artists, it does not change the fact that it is the space agency that is ultimately responsible for the final insignia.

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posted 09-14-2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hoorenz   Click Here to Email hoorenz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'The' space agency?

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I purposely didn't write NASA, but rather the space agency responsible for the given design. Roscosmos, NASA, ESA, CSA and JAXA are each responsible for their own designs. NASA has managed the ISS expeditions designs from the start of the program.

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AB Emblem's ISS Expedition 31 embroidered patch:


Source: Spaceflight Now

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As you can see, the font size of Padalka and Revin was repaired by AB Emblem in this final version (compared to the prototype that showed up earlier in this thread). They are still too large in the NASA graphic, however.

A new feature on the little white sticker with the product number on the back of these AB Emblem patches (not visible here) is the addition of the line 'made in USA'. All subsequent patches produced to date (Exp 32, 36 and, most recently, 35) have this line as well.

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posted 09-16-2011 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, don't like it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
I will be interviewing Don Pettit next Tuesday (Sept. 20) and will ask him about the patch.
I didn't have a chance to ask Pettit about the emblem, but did discuss it with Andre Kuipers. In addition to having some very nice things to say about Luc van den Abeelen and his designs, Kuipers said that while he was aware there were European and U.S. versions of the patch, he thought that both looked very good.

His only specific comment was about an initial mistake made in the embroidery of the simplified, or crew version of the emblem, as pictured on the red shirt above.

As noted in the emblem's description, crescents along the horizons of the Earth and Moon, and along the orbit, form the number '31' — and that was accidentally left out of the simplified logo.


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