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Robert Pearlman
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High resolution. Credit: NASA
STS-133 mission patch

The STS-133 mission patch is based upon sketches from the late artist Robert McCall; they were the final creations of his long and prodigious career.

In the foreground, a solitary orbiter ascends into a dark blue sky above a roiling fiery plume. A spray of stars surrounds the orbiter and a top lit crescent forms the background behind the ascent.

The mission number, STS-133, is emblazoned on the patch center, and crewmembers' names are listed on a sky-blue border around the scene.

The Shuttle Discovery is depicted ascending on a plume of flame as if it is just beginning a mission. However it is just the orbiter, without boosters or an external tank, as it would be at mission's end. This is to signify Discovery's completion of its operational life and the beginning of its new role as a symbol of NASA's and the nation's proud legacy in human spaceflight.

collectSPACE's own Tim Gagnon and Jorge Cartes were selected by the crew to complete the patch after McCall's passing.

Space Emblem Art
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posted 06-11-2010 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Space Emblem Art   Click Here to Email Space Emblem Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim and Jorge, That you were chosen to pick up Robert McCall's torch just about sums up the esteem in which you are held in this field and among the astronauts. Bravo!

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posted 06-11-2010 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim, Jorge...CONGRATULATIONS!

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posted 06-11-2010 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as the patch goes, I like the design. It reminds me of STS-26, very simple and clean. As for Tim and Jorge, well done!!!!!

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posted 06-11-2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW. Congratulations, Tim and Jorge. I can only imagine what an honor it must have been to be chosen to create the final Shuttle patch. I commend you on the elegant simplicity and power of your design, and on the visual poetry of your homage to the work of the late, great Robert McCall.

...And the circle is closed.

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posted 06-11-2010 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's nice. I'm not used to Robert McCall's work (never saw it before or if I did I didn't know it was his) so the image of the shuttle did not sit with me for a bit but I like it.

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posted 06-11-2010 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Guillaume   Click Here to Email Guillaume     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Am I the only one who sees a little yellow "T" and a little yellow "J" in the plume?

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 06-12-2010 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the subtle links to the STS-1 patch as well, given the orbiter ascending against the backdrop of the Earth, and the use of the yellow/orange plume colours at the base of the patch. Not sure whether this was intended by McCall (not having seen the unfinished early sketches), or a tribute added by the crew when adapting the sketches after McCall's death.

Given the STS-1 patch, the STS-133 patch is a very befitting patch with which to bring the Shuttle program to a close.

Don't know about other people, but I didn't like the use of the same colours on the STS-131, 132 and 134 patches (even though they are all very good). Too visually similar when viewed together.

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posted 06-12-2010 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all those who emailed me and to everyone for their comments above.

Back in 1973 when I began writing to astronauts asking if I might design their mission patch, the (always polite) reply was while they appreciated my interest, they had already chosen an artist to work with. Many times, that artist was Robert McCall.

Finally in 1982 I wrote to Mr. McCall to ask his advice. He replied with words that at the time seemed somewhat ambiguous because I was hoping for step-by-step instructions.

Over the years my appreciation for his advice and his work grew. So to have been asked by the crew to finish what Mr. McCall started was especially gratifying. Of course I couldn't have done it without the help of my little brother from Madrid.

We placed the large gold 4-pointed star in the design as a tribute to Mr. McCall and opposite it you'll see two small 4 pointed stars for our involvement. Oh and yes, there is a "T" & "J" in the plume.

Tim

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posted 06-12-2010 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still wish "Discovery" would be the shuttle to fly on NASA's final shuttle mission. If only management will make the decision on swapping the orbiters or the mission...

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posted 06-12-2010 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim and Jorge, CONGRATULATIONS on yet another job well done! Now you are standing with a true legend. I'm sure Mr. McCall is looking down and smiling. This has to be the greatest honor for a space artist!!

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posted 06-12-2010 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the clean design. What a great honor being chosen to complete the patch. All three are artists I admire greatly.

Any idea when this patch will be available? Beautiful work.

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posted 06-12-2010 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fezman92:
It's nice. I'm not used to Robert McCall's work (never saw it before or if I did I didn't know it was his)
Ever seen 2001: A Space Odyssey? Here is the program cover for his funeral in March:

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posted 06-13-2010 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys. Tim has told you all that I could say. Really it has been a great honour for us, and I'm proud to be choosen for it and for work with my big brother. Cheers Tim

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posted 06-13-2010 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PowerCat   Click Here to Email PowerCat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim and Jorge: I also send my congratulations on a wonderful patch design. Having seen a mural that Robert McCall completed at the Kansas Cosmosphere, you have taken his final thoughts and ideas and created a final memory of the shuttle program that will be long remembered.

Harald Kraenzel
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posted 06-13-2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harald Kraenzel   Click Here to Email Harald Kraenzel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim and Jorge, it must indeed be a great honor to design the STS-133 mission patch using the sketches made by the late Robert McCall. But finally it's the earnings for having designed some previous nice patches choosen by the astronauts.

Congratulation!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-14-2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a picture speaks a thousand words, this photo captures three decades of history...


Please do not reproduce without permission or until released by NASA. Credit: NASA (via source).

Bill Hunt
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posted 06-14-2010 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill Hunt   Click Here to Email Bill Hunt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... now THAT'S pretty damn cool. And let me just add my own congratulations, to Tim and Jorge for their wonderful work and for the honor they've been given, to those of everyone else here! I can't wait to have the patch in hand.

Tom
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posted 06-14-2010 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, great photo! Do you know if the STS-1 crew also posed with the (planned) last shuttle crew of STS-134?

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Just noticed... dig the "throwback" polo shirts with the NASA worm logotype! NICE...(maybe they should pose in those old brown suits that John and Crip wore!)

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They should have all worn turtlenecks.

Great shot...

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posted 06-21-2010 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the patch. I think the only thing I would have liked to see is Discovery under the STS-133 like Columbia on the STS-1 or drop the STS-133 and just have Discovery.

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posted 06-21-2010 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some of the earlier drafts included the name of the orbiter but the crew decided to remove it in the event it changed.

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posted 06-21-2010 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... We tried to make the Earth as a big "D" And we got it. Here is hidden the ship name guys.

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posted 06-26-2010 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KSCartist:
Some of the earlier drafts included the name of the orbiter but the crew decided to remove it in the event it changed.
Too bad you can not post them here. It would be great to see. Once we got to see them then they would end up on eBay like all of the end of program finalist patch ideas.

KenDavis
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posted 06-26-2010 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenDavis   Click Here to Email KenDavis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about some copies of that photo signed by all!

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posted 06-26-2010 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for history in miniature   Click Here to Email history in miniature     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tim and Jorge Congratulations, a little late sorry.

Robert Pearlman
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom:
Do you know if the STS-1 crew also posed with the (planned) last shuttle crew of STS-134?
Not sure about the whole crew but Mark Kelly shared a photo through Twitter of him with him Young.

lucspace
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posted 07-21-2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Utterly confused about on-again, off-again STS-135... but if it happens, the STS-133 patch will not be for the final flight. Or will it become the STS-135 patch because it was destined to be the final one?

Love the design, by the way!

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quote:
Originally posted by lucspace:
Or will it become the STS-135 patch because it was destined to be the final one?
McCall's original sketch had the words 'final flight.' They were removed at the request of the crew. So I think they will stick to their patch! Jorge? Tim?

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posted 07-21-2010 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Luc (and everyone else who has contacted us) Thanks for the kind words about the design.

The 133 patch is for that mission whenever it flies, whether it's the final flight or not.

If 135 is approved it will more than likely be the final flight and I'm sure that crew will have their own ideas how their patch should look.

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I wish to agree with my brother Tim in thanking all of you for your comments. And about a possible 135... I would like it will fly: so we can have another opportunity to be chosen for making its patch!

lucspace
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posted 08-02-2010 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this is the official AB-Emblem version, I am not too thrilled about the outcome... some unofficial ones currently on eBay are much closer to the actual artwork...

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posted 08-03-2010 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope it will be not...

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posted 08-03-2010 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh man, that's bad. AB can do a better job than that.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-03-2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By way of Tim (thanks!) comes the actual AB Emblem (prototype) patch -- the patch posted by the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex was in error (they also have the same art as below but posted the wrong image).

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Just came to the realization that when the shuttle missions end so do these mini tapestries. Just wanted to thank all who have had a hand in designing and producing these art forms, they will be missed as much as the missions they represented.

lucspace
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posted 08-03-2010 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, that IS a relief!

KAPTEC
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posted 08-16-2010 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just now I've got mine... And it is the same which Tim did show us: very beautiful final work. (Thank you so much Joseph!)

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posted 08-17-2010 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I visited KSC today and was dismayed to find that the patch KSC (still has) on their website is in fact the patch they offer in the store.

I checked the reverse and it is in fact an AB Emblem patch per the product number label.

I've contacted AB to express my concern. I'll post again when I have a response.

On edit: AB Emblem's response:

...some of the emblems went out with the "nice" shuttle on it initially, and all customers are aware of this and that all future orders are to have the stylized (McCall) shuttle.


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