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SpaceAngel
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posted 10-24-2010 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone knows when the payload patch for "Discovery" will be available?!

KSCartist
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posted 11-09-2010 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alan Bean stopped by the collectSPACE booth and gave me a critique of my STS-133 painting. He said that in his opinion the STS-133 patch was the best of the shuttle program. Due to the simplicity of the design and the juxtaposition of colors.

I mentioned to him that we had something in common. Jack Lousma asked McCall to create the STS-3 patch and McCall was unable to finish because of another commitment. Bean completed it for Lousma.

Talking art with Alan Bean: Priceless.

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posted 11-09-2010 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KSCartist:
He said that in his opinion the STS-133 patch was the best of the shuttle program.

I wouldn't disagree. When STS-133 was released, it instantly became one of my favorites, and not just because of my appreciation of Bob McCall's work. Certainly my favorite patch since the early years. And congratulations...praise from Alan Bean is praise indeed.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-19-2010 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SpaceAngel:
Does anyone knows when the payload patch for "Discovery" will be available?!
The STS-133/ULF5 payload patch:

NavySpaceFan
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posted 01-19-2011 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NavySpaceFan   Click Here to Email NavySpaceFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With today's announcement, how soon would the modified mission patch (with Bowen vice Kopra) be available?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-19-2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
STS-133 mission patch co-artist Jorge Cartes has produced this (unofficial) version of the insignia, reflecting Bowen's assignment to the crew.

Although it is assumed NASA will update the patch accordingly, the space agency has yet to confirm it is doing so.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-20-2011 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yesterday, I asked chief astronaut Peggy Whitson about the time constraints NASA faces supporting logistical changes before Steve Bowen can fly in less than six weeks. As she noted, a revised crew patch may not be possible.
I don't know if all of that is going to happen. The patch may not work, we'll see.

What we will do, we do have a plan for the EMU, of course. We have to have a plan to have an appropriate sized EMU onboard and that is being worked into the schedule.

Because of the logistics plan on this particular mission, the 133 crew was actually going to be eating station food for some portion of the mission anyway, so that is already there. There might have to be some specific changeout for other phases of flight, you know when they are not docked to the station. Or, if we don't have time to do that, we just won't do that. He'll just eat Tim's food.

Crew clothing will probably have to be changed out. Again, if push came to shove, we have a supply aboard station. So some of those things utilized from station stores if we needed to.

But obviously we're going to prioritize the training first, and then the hardware necessary to do the mission and then we'll get as much of the rest of the things as we can after that.

lucspace
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posted 01-20-2011 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sure an adapted patch will at least be worn on the launch and re-enty suits... couldn't imagine otherwise...

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posted 01-21-2011 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OV-105   Click Here to Email OV-105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet the AB looms are going like crazy right now making the new patches for NASA now. I bet we won't see them in the public's hand till after the flight.

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 01-21-2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AB Emblem were given instruction yesterday to produce an updated version of the STS-133 patch to reflect the change in personnel.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-25-2011 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Further to the above, AB Emblem reports:
With the launch of STS-133 scheduled for February 24, 2011, we are gearing up to produce the emblem and pin for this design with astronaut Bowen replacing Kopra.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-02-2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA has now made official the "Bowen-version" of the STS-133 mission patch.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-20-2011 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The STS-133 crew arrived in Florida today (Feb. 20) for their launch on Thursday all wearing the "Bowen version" of their mission patch. Nicole Stott had hers sewn over the original Kopra version.

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posted 02-21-2011 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FullThrottle   Click Here to Email FullThrottle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will I still be able to get the old version at Kennedy Space Center this week or are they "off the shelves"?

I didn't get one on my first trip, kind of feel like I should have since the first go around on the launch attempt was such an adventure.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-21-2011 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both the Astronaut Hall of Fame and the Visitor Complex gift shops only have the new Bowen-version of the patch for sale.

(Likewise for the lapel pins, medallions, philatelic covers, shirts and hats, blankets and launch program.)

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posted 02-21-2011 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FullThrottle:
Will I still be able to get the old version at Kennedy Space Center this week or are they "off the shelves"?
The "Kopra" patches, pins, shirts, etc. are widely available from online merchants. I know that doesn't have the same cachet as "Bought at KSC," but if you want them, they're readily available.

Personally, I'm about 20 missions in arrears on my shuttle patch collection, but when the 133 crew change became official I bought a couple of "Kopra" patches and pins, as well as launch programs. Distribution of these items was already so wide that they'll probably never be rare enough to be worth significant $$, but that's not why I collect this stuff anyway.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-26-2011 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today's (Flight Day 3) execute package uplinked to Discovery's crew included this bit of patch-related humor:

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-01-2011 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GoesTo11:
Distribution of these items was already so wide that they'll probably never be rare...
Offered simply as a bit of trivia but on the subject of rarity, it appears that the rarest bit of Kopra/Bowen STS-133 memorabilia (at least at the moment) is the official Bowen-version of the NASA lapel pin. It is not the Bowen version pin being offered on eBay or through the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex or other retailers.

Apparently, having already exhausted their budget on the production of Kopra-version products, the NASA centers and their exchange stores did not order corrected pins with the exception of a very small supply out of headquarters. In fact, most of the flight directors and others you see briefing the media or in Mission Control are still wearing the Kopra-version pin.

The official NASA Bowen-version pin is not like the earlier Kopra pin. It is not a cloisonné pin but rather a "photo dome" with the patch artwork printed and then sealed in epoxy. The back of the pin is inscribed with "STS-133," "NASA" and "Made in the USA."

It is still to be seen if this "photo dome" version will remain in production and become more readily available as time goes on or if it was only a quick solution to be replaced by the more usual Winco-supplied cloisonné pin.

And with that all I said, I don't know if anyone cares about such details but if you do, there you go...

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-07-2011 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
collectSPACE
Late artist's final art orbits as last patch for space shuttle Discovery

Space shuttle Discovery's final crew left their mark on the International Space Station Sunday prior to departing the orbiting laboratory today.

Participating in a tradition established by previous visiting crews, the six astronauts added their mission's insignia to the station's wall and then signed their names around the decal. The simple act signified the successful conclusion of their goals while onboard the space station...

The addition of the red, orange, and blue patch, which the crew also wore on their pressure suits, polo shirts, and on the pair of suits used for the flight's two spacewalks, also represented the final contribution by a famed space artist to the visual history of the United States' space program.

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posted 03-07-2011 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KSCartist   Click Here to Email KSCartist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Robert for a beautiful story about the creation of the 133 patch. I learned things I hadn't been aware of from your interviews with Al Drew.

One thing I want to make clear to everyone is this. None of the patch designs I have been involoved with since STS-126 would be possible with out the support and incredible talent of Jorge Cartes.

Most of the time I am the point of contact with the crew because I live next to KSC and I contact as many crews as I can with the offer to work with them.

All of the drafts you see in this article were polished by Jorge and include his deft touch. My raw designs would not be as attractive if Jorge was not there to make them shine.

Together we have been very fortunate and have fulfilled our childhood dreams more times than either of us ever thought possible. It's been almost an "embarassment of riches." But it is the result of hours of hard work on both sides of the Atlantic.

Thank you Jorge my "silent but talented partner". You deserve the credit as much as anyone. It is a pleasure to fly with you.

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posted 03-10-2011 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAPTEC   Click Here to Email KAPTEC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Tim, for these words about my (your words) "incredible talent."

But I do not forget something my dear and big friend (and brother). Also in your words, your "raw designs" are most of the times the "alma mater" of our patches. Without them I wouldn't do anything. Thank you for your credit, and for me too, is a pleasure to fly with you. I love this team.

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posted 03-10-2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 328KF   Click Here to Email 328KF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A great story about a great patch design...congrats to all.

Mike Z
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posted 06-15-2011 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone seen an STS-133 decal with Bowen's name?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 06-15-2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Mike, there is one currently listed on eBay, item No. 220799836598.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-15-2011 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The seller is displaying only a graphic of the emblem, not a photo of the decal itself. I would double check before bidding that the decal itself has Bowen's name and (if such things matter to you) that the decal is of original NASA issue.

Ken Havekotte can say definitively, but last I heard Spaceflight Awareness decided not to reproduce decals with Bowen's name. Only a small number were made for the purposes of official use, such as the crew applying to the walls of the station.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 06-15-2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have one, and it is a decal, but on a light blue square shaped backing paper instead of a square white backing paper, like the 'official' Kopra one. It is slightly smaller and has no flight details or any text on the back.

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posted 06-15-2011 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kevin T. Randall:
Yes Mike, there is one currently listed on eBay
I bought one of these from this guy. It is just the graphic on decal paper. It is not an authentic decal.

Mike Z
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posted 06-15-2011 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Z   Click Here to Email Mike Z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, How does it look? Is it worth bidding for?

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 06-16-2011 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It may not be an official one, but I think it is worth bidding on Mike.

Kevin T. Randall
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posted 07-02-2011 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin T. Randall   Click Here to Email Kevin T. Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A revised 'Bowen' decal is now on sale at The Space Store.


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