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cspg
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posted 10-21-2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Announced at an international iHobby show, Dragon Models' 1:48 Apollo 11 Command Service Module (CSM):

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 10-21-2011 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks promising. I would imagine there would be a docked CSM/LM option too in due course since they are working on a 1/48th scale LM? Any planned release dates yet?

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posted 10-22-2011 12:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks good - pleased to see that the hitherto missing hatch handle is now there.

But I'm gonna be a nerd and say that some additional details would make a big difference:

  1. Telescope/sextant mount (could be there but hard to see from the photo; it was not there on the 1:72).
  2. Outline the RCS engines on the CM in the brick red color as they were on the flight vehicles.
  3. High gain antenna dishes were dark gunmetal color, not gold.
  4. There was some sort of round bubble thing on the main hatch (I think it was a pressure release valve?)
  5. May be too much to ask for, but being able to separate the CM from SM would be great (would be easy to keep together with small neodymium magnets inside each piece.
So... nitpicky details, but for a 1:48 they will likely sell a lot more if it really adds something new that their 1:72 versions don't have.

arjuna
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posted 10-25-2011 07:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact that there haven't been many other posts on this thread suggests a lack of enthusiasm. The more I think about it, the more I think Dragon really need to step up the level of detail on this one or else they may find that people decide just to stick with the 1:72. It's not a small model, and so there needs to be something to justify the shelf space (and $).

Other opinions?

Rick Mulheirn
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posted 10-25-2011 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 1/48 CSM/LM may lack some of the detail we would all like to see. But the scale of the model is such that it would make for an impressive display none the less. I would certainly hope to have a docked example of both spacecraft in my collection in due course.

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posted 10-25-2011 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The detail can't be any worse than the 1/48 wood models that are every where for $130 and up. I certainly want to get one when they come out.

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posted 10-28-2011 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flying Mule has the model for $60 (ok, 59.99) with a release date of December.

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posted 10-29-2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for backof   Click Here to Email backof     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Flying Mule has the diecast only as far as I am aware. Does anyone know if the diecasts are from different molds than the models? I'm trying to figure out if I should get both.

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posted 01-03-2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It hit the coast as of today! Expect retailers to have it available soon.

Daugherty54
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posted 01-05-2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is in stock at the Flying Mule. Does anyone have any pics of the details on this model?

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posted 01-06-2012 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule has some pictures.

arjuna
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posted 01-06-2012 03:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doe we know if they're doing a kit version of the 1:48 CSM?

Also, from the pics on the Flying Mule site, it appears that contrary to my previous comment the hatch still does NOT have a handle.

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posted 01-06-2012 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daugherty54:
Does anyone have any pics of the details on this model?
Here are a few quick shots. If there are specific details you'd like to see, let me know.

Daugherty54
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posted 01-06-2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the pictures. I have one ordered. Does it have a similar stand to the 1/72?

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posted 01-06-2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does have a stand, the same style as the 1:72 but scaled appropriately.

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posted 01-06-2012 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
If there are specific details you'd like to see, let me know.
Robert, is this die-cast metal, or mostly plastic? Thanks.

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posted 01-06-2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The service module body is die-cast; the command module and engine bell are plastic (the earlier is a shell rather than solid).

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posted 01-06-2012 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once again a little research (and I do mean 'little') would have shown that the hatch window was round.

It doesn't look as if there IS a hatch window on this model.

Jay Chladek
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posted 01-09-2012 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Chladek   Click Here to Email Jay Chladek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, if I recall my Apollo references, the window on the inside of the hatch is round. But the window on the outside of the hatch on block 2 CSMs is square.

This one looks pretty good. While again I'll be waiting for a kit version (and I have seen listings for a kit version on the way), the finish of this seems good for an H mission CSM. At least this one doesn't seem to have the obvious flaws that the LMs in 1/72 and 1/48 have (I'll likely pair up a kit version of the Dragon CSM with a Monogram LM).

GACspaceguy
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posted 01-09-2012 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are pictures of the outside and inside of the CM door window. I hope it helps answer the question on the CM window.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-16-2012 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
I'll be waiting for a kit version...
Here is the poster announcing the model kit:

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posted 07-15-2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Dragon's 1/72 Lunar Approach diecast and I like it. It looks pretty good to me especially the reflective chrome silver on the command module. My question is: Is the bigger 1/48 CSM the same quality as the smaller 1/72 versions?

In the advertisements, the command module doesn't look as shiny as the smaller 1/72. Does anyone here have the 1/48 version or seen it?

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posted 07-15-2012 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I own both the 1/48 and 1/72 Dragon Apollo CSM models and can verify that they are essentially the same. The finish and details are almost identical. The only real difference is the scale.

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posted 07-15-2012 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for answering that. I will now order one.

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posted 07-15-2012 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the clocks running   Click Here to Email the clocks running     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very welcome Bert! I hope that you love the 1/48 Dragon Apollo CSM model.

model maker
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posted 07-19-2012 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of glues are you guys using to attach the thrusters and other things we need to glue on the already painted surfaces as it comes out of the box?

I didn't use standard model cement as that won't stick to painted surfaces. I used messy loctite and so far it holds but I am very careful when handling as the tiny parts will be hard to find if they fall off.

How about superglue? Will that work on painted surfaces?

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posted 07-19-2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been Superglue-ing mine, so far so good.

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posted 07-20-2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I was tempted to try regular model cement however I know that paint would need to be scraped away and didn't want to do that so used a little clear Loctite. Super Glue from here on for me as I think it will stick to a painted surface better than model glues.

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posted 07-20-2012 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe a tip: be careful with Super Glue on black/dark paint color areas. You sure get white spots!

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posted 07-21-2012 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the heads up.

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In case anyone was thinking of buying the Dragon 1/48 CSM - I wouldn't. I just got the "built up" version on eBay for a good price but the detail is very poor. Especially the crew hatch window being square - it just glares at you.

The finish on the CM is incorrect as well and there isn't any way to join the CSM with the LEM if you wanted to. I'm thinking of buying the New Ware 1/48 detail set and applying their hatch to the model just so I can look at the thing without rolling my eyes. Sloppy.

The LEM is very nice though. Way better than the Revell kit.

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posted 11-13-2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for model maker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hatch window is square on the outside and round on the inside. What's wrong with the finish? Is it the same as the 1/72 diecast version and is the CM bright chrome looking like the 1/72 version?

What is wrong with the detail compared to the 1/72 CSM? I need to know because I am getting ready to purchase it and the 1/48 LEM. I will wait to read your reply to this before I order.

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posted 11-18-2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meademan   Click Here to Email Meademan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got both of these. I bought the 1/48 to match the scale of the LEM which I also have.

For what they are, I think they are fine. None of the models in this sort of price range are ever going to be perfect, but quite honestly, for the money, I think they are great, and everyone who sees them think they are impressive too.

Mine are in a display case together, along with the LEM and an Apollo 11 landing plaque. They look good and the larger scale of the 1/48, I think, is pretty impressive.

Hope this helps make up your mind.

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posted 08-21-2014 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wonderland Models in the UK has the Apollo 11 CSM reduced to just £30 plus many other Dragon space model reductions.

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posted 08-22-2014 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Register with Wonderland Models and you get an additional 5% discount voucher too. Total cost of the model shipped in the UK, £32.44; £27 cheaper than Amazon.

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