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cspg
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posted 12-02-2010 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule has it too. And the Shuttle and the F-14.

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posted 12-11-2010 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got one last week.

Haven't started it yet but it's packaged nicely and as others have shown looks real nice. Assembly tips definitely appreciated.

What kind of glues are you using? CA? Slow? Fast? Been a while since I built a model, plastic or balsa.

cspg
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posted 12-12-2010 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought you didn't need glue at all...

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posted 12-12-2010 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No glue at all. Just click it together.

Philip
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posted 12-12-2010 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That should make assembly "easy" for all of us not-model-builders

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posted 12-12-2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FameMaster's 4D series are less model kits as they are construction toys. Think LEGO more than Revell, but with much more detailed snap together pieces.

As a comparison, the target age group for the 4D Vision shuttle is 14+, whereas the target age for LEGO's recent Space Shuttle Adventure is 16+.

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posted 12-13-2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The prices are already dropping I see...

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posted 12-13-2010 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NASA Glenn   Click Here to Email NASA Glenn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My wife just informed me that she ordered the Saturn V from Just Plane Fun over a month ago as a Christmas surprise for me. (I have the best wife in the world).

Just Plane Fun never returned any e-mails asking for status updates. When she spoke with them the first week in December, they said the model was in transit. The model has not arrived as promised and today she finally got through to a real person concerning the order they claimed they would "look into it and call back."

Well, they never called back and the Saturn V has been removed from their website. I cannot recommend Just Plane Fun, because they have ruined this man's Christmas dream.

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posted 12-15-2010 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jake   Click Here to Email Jake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like these are real nice models...!

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I ordered one of these from Just Plane Fun too after seeing it mentioned here. I kept watching them while I waited to get the money together. $199 with free shipping was the lowest price I had found for one of these.

Last week when I finally had an extra $200 and was ready to order their catalog page had changed from "In Stock" to "Backordered". After hunting around for a similar deal (with no luck) I called JPF and asked about it. The nice girl I got on the phone had to put me on hold and ask someone about it. She came back on and told me that they were out of stock but that they were drop shipping them direct from the distributor to the customer. So I went back online and bought one and pay-palled for it.

That evening I received an email from them and under Order Status it said "Cancelled". I called them the next day and was told that they just found out they couldn't get any more. So they refunded my money (which took a few days).

The next best price I could find was one for $227 (with shipping) from an eBay seller... I figured a bird in the hand beats possibly saving a few bucks down the road so I snagged that and it arrived today (less than a week later).

I'm excited to have one in hand although I'm supposed to wait until Christmas to open it (my wife helped pay for part of it).

Philip
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posted 12-16-2010 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any Europeans with buying experience from dealers in Europe?

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posted 12-16-2010 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1202 Alarm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This year, when not in the US, I bought all the stuff we're talking about from the Germans at andromeda.de and also from eurekashop.be (best deal for the Bandai Endeavour at 379e). I'm Swiss but with a french address so no customs. Great service, fast delivery, good deals, I'm pleased.

(I collect Dragon 1/400 space models since its space line debut in 2003, Swissair planes and recent efforts from Bandai S5&STS, FM4D etc. In the past, bought the Code3's and the Danbury Mint's. By the way, the Apollo 11 by DM is still my favorite.)

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posted 12-16-2010 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1202 Alarm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Links for the shops mentioned above.

Direct link with the Andromeda.de model page.

Direct link with the EurekaShop.be model page.

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posted 12-16-2010 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... the difference between the shops are up to 110€?!?! What the heck? So, would prefer to purchase it in Belgium.

Gee, Germany just expensive as every time (yeah... life is not funny here!)

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posted 12-16-2010 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One left at AviationMegastore.com.

cspg
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posted 12-16-2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldn't owners of this model have preferred that the Saturn was half painted on one side and see-through on the other?

The see-through part looks sprayed paint and it doesn't look that nice.

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posted 12-17-2010 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i saw this little fellow now already on eBay, the LM 1/100 from 4D Famemaster. And not so expensive...

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posted 12-17-2010 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
Wouldn't owners of this model have preferred that the Saturn was half painted on one side and see-through on the other?
For the Famemaster 4D model? No - it's quite good. Certainly better than anything I could produce.

MikeSpace
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I'm sure there are other configurations that people desire; I'm just glad [ecstatic really] that someone out there is making quality models of the Saturn V.

Model rocketeers scratch build these in every scale imaginable. I saw a 1/10 scale Saturn V; 36.5 feet high.

Now, a 1/32 Lunar Module would be nice.

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So with Christmas over I was finally "allowed" to put mine together. Construction was pretty straightforward and took me about an hour an a half. The instructions are not the best I've ever seen but I guess this is supposed to be a bit of a "puzzle" and if that is the intention then they were successful in making it so. I managed to figure it out and only had to deconstruct a couple of steps when I found out I had used the wrong part...fortunately I didn't glue anything.

My only quibble with the kit as far as detailing goes is that the entire third stage has the corrugated texture molded in and, unless I'm misremembering things, the center portion should be smooth. that's kind of a major detailing screw up on what otherwise is a very nicely done model. Other than that it's very cool and will display nicely.

I built about four of the Monogram 144th scale kits as a kid and none of them ever turned out as nicely as this one did (of course the fact that I'm 49 instead of 12 probably has a lot to do with that).

I'm not quite sure why this thing is so expensive for what you actually get...I suppose they charge that amount for it simply because they know that the market will bear paying that much....I know I didn't really think twice about it. Anyway, I'm so glad to have this to display as I've wanted a big Saturn around the house for years and now I have one.

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posted 12-29-2010 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starting to assemble, I feel like I should dab a bit of glue here or there to keep things in place, or is that just the modeler in me?

Has anyone done this to 'reinforce' the model?

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posted 12-29-2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeSpace:
Has anyone done this to 'reinforce' the model?
Yes. I did that too.

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posted 02-20-2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they planning a second run of this model? It seems to be out of stock just about everywhere. I'd love to have one but with Spacefest coming up I have to be careful with my funds. I would love to purchase one of these this fall, but am worried about waiting. any advice?

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posted 03-06-2011 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We went to Hobby Lobby yesterday with a 40% off coupon in hand hoping that this Saturn V would be there. Unfortunately it was not. They did have a 1/72 Shuttle on the shelf at their regular price of $99 so that we did not waste the trip we bought our second one for only $60 with that coupon. Now if we could only get a Saturn V for that same deal!

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posted 03-07-2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw one at the Kennedy Space Center shop when I was there last week for the launch. It was $215. I later passed by and it was gone!

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posted 03-09-2011 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indeed, an amazing model and everywhere you look it has been sold out!

As with most scale model suppliers we don't have to hope on a re-run build in the future.

Maybe when Apollo turns "half-a-century" some supplier might come up with such a quality scale model...

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posted 03-09-2011 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neke   Click Here to Email neke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bizarrely enough, I saw one in Chuck E. Cheese last weekend. Only 10,000 tickets (which likely would make it more expensive than any of the other ones mentioned here)!

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posted 03-09-2011 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There will be a second run...

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posted 03-09-2011 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did eventually find my shuttle model at Orion Telescopes, strangely enough. It was about $109 or something like that, I think it was $20 off too which was good enough for me to order it. I wonder if the Saturn V will show up in similar places?

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posted 03-09-2011 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There will be a second run...
I sincerely hope you are right. Do you have any special insights?

Daugherty54
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posted 03-20-2011 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen at least two hobby shops with a restock date of August and September, so it does seem there will be another run of these. Whew, now Spacefest can have more of my money.

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posted 04-18-2011 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had mine since before Christmas, awaiting construction for the time when I had moved to my new house and had a place for this monster model.

It went together pretty smoothly. I stood on the shoulders of giants, i.e., learned from the trials and tribulations of other cS'rs who assembled theirs earlier. For example, I used a couple drops of super glue to hold the LM plume deflectors in place. The "missing" part 46 on the S-II stage is in fact already attached to the side of the stage - it's one of the tunnels running along the stage. The piece will come off if you pull on it. My only misstep was not checking the alignment tab of the IU before putting the SLA panels in place - I had to pull them off and rotate the assembly 180 degrees.

My model was missing the ascent engine for the LM, and one of the SLA panels had a broken tab that was supposed to hold it to the S-IVB stage. As noted in earlier posts, the paint isn't perfect (for example, the inside of one of the F-1 engines was not completely sprayed). But these are minor complaints.

The model looks great, and it was certainly less work, with a better end product, than trying to get the Revell 1/96 Saturn V into good shape. I'm all about the instant gratification! I hope that Fame Master cranks these out again soon for everyone who didn't get one the first time around.

I'll need to build some supports, but here's the model next to my 5-foot vintage poster!

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I'll need to build some supports, but here's the model next to my 5-foot vintage poster!
Nice poster. May I ask where you came across that, and are reproductions out there?

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posted 04-18-2011 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work, Jonathan! (Also, nice "giant shoulders" reference.)

Arjuna, I don't know about reprints, but a huge file of that image is available on the National Air and Space Museum website. You could get it printed somewhere.

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posted 04-19-2011 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Steve's correct, you can download it from the NASM. The original is about 5 feet by 2 feet. I actually got this poster in August 1969. It was on my wall until I went off to college in 1974. It stayed rolled up in a tube (and pretty much forgotten) until I took it to the ASF Autograph show in November 2009, where I had it signed by every Apollo/Saturn/Skylab astronaut there, plus Gerry Griffin, Guenter Wendt, and Dee O'Hara.

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posted 04-19-2011 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scroll down this page about 1/4 of the way, you'll see that poster here also.

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posted 04-19-2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your poster and model combination would make a great Project Apollo display or exhibit in a museum. Super cool!

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posted 05-16-2011 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I teach at a school with an EAST technology lab where they can print and do projects and they just printed a wonderful copy of this poster from the 1.78 mb file. You might check a local high school and see if they have this capability. Mine actually printed out at just less than 6x2 feet, as he printed it to match his paper size.

Regardless I am very pleased with this. It may go to Spacefest with me.

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Got my 4D Saturn V model at KSC. Only had the display model so offered to pay for it first and then dismantle it myself! When I got home found there were a couple of small pieces missing which were obviously not included when it was originally constructed, but nothing major. Looks cool! Cost $215.

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On Nov. 1, 1967 newspapers ran a special insert called "The Big Shot" that described the importance of the first Apollo Saturn V mission (Apollo 4) that was to fly that week. All color, it showed Saturn V and the mission very well. It also had a cutaway of the moon rocket using a Marshall space center display model. I believe that is where Revell got the idea for their Saturn V model. I looked and looked and tried to get a cutaway model for many years.

Heck, I even was about to get GACspaceguy's model at the Cape - but figured I would find one back in California. (It was great to meet him anyway and it looks great at his house).

Today, I have my own from a Hobbytown in Los Angeles for my Downey Space Center displays. Thanks, Dan S.


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