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FireballXL5
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posted 10-11-2010 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireballXL5   Click Here to Email FireballXL5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked with my hobby shop guy. He inquired with his distributors and from what they told him the Saturn V is supposedly in transit for the US. Thanks for posting the pictures. It looks good enough for me. Now I guess the trick is possessing it.

Obviousman
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posted 10-12-2010 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problems - I'm quite happy with it.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 10-16-2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 4-D Saturn V got to the local model shop up here last Thursday, which just happened to be my birthday.

I didn't get a change to work on it until this morning. It's raining and windy up here, so it was a good time to put it together.

First off, I want to thank Obviousman for that detailed review of his construction issues. I followed your suggestions and avoided those problems.

I found the model fairly easy, but as I said before, I knew what to look for in problems. It took me about 3 hours of slow work to put 100 or so pieces together. The most complex piece was the LM. It was the only place where I used glue was to connect the LM descent stage together. I also ran into a similar problem as Obivousman on the LM in the SLA. I believe they made the H2 tank bulkhead just about an 1/8 inch too tall. Even with the LM legs in the folded position I had trouble fitting the CSM onto the SLA. I cured the issue by cutting an 1/8 of an inch off the H2 tank bulkhead. That solved the problem nicely and you cannot see the work, since it is hidden by the IU ring.

One major issue to me is the stand. There is no support other than some indents in the stand itself and that is just an accident waiting to happen.

There are the minor issues of paint detail, but they did a very nice job in creating a cutaway model that is fairly easy to build. It shows the internal workings very well. I have waited years and had several false starts with model makers in my attempt to get a cutaway model of the Saturn V. This model company did a pretty good job.

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GACspaceguy
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posted 10-16-2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Larry, can I ask what the price was?

BMckay
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posted 10-21-2010 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMckay   Click Here to Email BMckay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the people who have one, what are they doing about the flimsy base?

Obviousman
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posted 10-21-2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing, at this time. I'm not sure what I can do anything anyway.

FireballXL5
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posted 10-26-2010 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireballXL5   Click Here to Email FireballXL5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would just like to add that I am elated that you guys received yours. My hobby shop guy has his two distributors, one located in Connecticut the other in New Jersey. The Jersey distributor has a November 15 date but the one in Connecticut is in stock and ready to ship at a $30 dollar price increase. Strange! Maybe that would account for why the Mr. McGlynn from Boston got has already?

If anybody wants more information and save money, this hobby shop usually sells for 20% off of retail. If anyone is interested just e-mail me.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 10-26-2010 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is correct. My dealer got his supply from the distributor in Connecticut.

mode1charlie
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posted 10-27-2010 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Went to my local model store here in Honolulu, and as it happens his shipment of one 4D Saturn V and one 4D Space Shuttle had just arrived minutes before. He had pre-ordered to sell on spec, and the retail price was $275 for the Saturn V and $145 (I think - could have been $160 for the Shuttle). Prices here in Hawaii are generally 10-20% above the U.S. mainland, so your mileage may vary.

I didn't buy either of them. If I do eventually, I figure the online price will be substantially lower.

GACspaceguy
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posted 11-03-2010 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We came to KSC for the launch of STS-133, while shopping at the space store we came across the model. I thought it was interesting they even had them already, but they only had the one.

I assumed, as it was at the KSC store, that it would not have been price friendly and was going to pass it by, my wife who always is the one to verify the assumptions checked it out and it was selling at $215. With the 10% discount for have an annual pass for KSC that put the price at $193.50, it now belongs to us.

As I said, there was only one at their store at the Visitor Center, however we did not make it to the Saturn V Center and you would think that they would have more there along side the real deal!

GoesTo11
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posted 11-03-2010 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ordered mine yesterday from a dealer in PA. US$253.00 including ground shipping to CO.

tegwilym
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posted 11-03-2010 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found my 4D shuttle at the Orion Telescope website last spring. It was on sale for $109 or something like that. Good price, so I bought it. I wonder if this Saturn will decrease in price after a while? I forget what the shuttle was originally at, but it was a lot more than I spent.

Apollo Redux
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posted 11-04-2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo Redux   Click Here to Email Apollo Redux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're starting to show up on eBay. Prices are are between $250 and $400, as of this post.

GACspaceguy
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posted 11-06-2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GACspaceguy:
We came to KSC for the launch of STS-133, while shopping at the space store we came across the model. I thought it was interesting they even had them already, but they only had the one.
Well we could not stay for the launch but we did get the 4D Saturn V as I had posted earlier. While I was gone for the day I came home to a completed model, thanks to my beautiful wife. Here it is in it's new home, it takes it's place among models built by some other modeling greats such as Steve Nichols, Carlos Santos, Nick Proach and of course my wife Jackie.

contra
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posted 11-06-2010 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just finished my Saturn V.



Obviousman
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posted 11-06-2010 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outstanding! That's a great display area.

Machodoc
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posted 11-06-2010 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Machodoc   Click Here to Email Machodoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been getting Historic Aviation's catalogs ever since I got my pilot's license in 1989. They are also online.

This evening I bought the 1/100 scale Saturn V cutaway kit. A little pricey, but looks very cool and detailed. If you go to their website it is item #95982E. Their catalogs are always loaded with tons of interesting stuff. It's mainly aviation oriented but they are adding more space stuff as time goes by.

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Obviousman
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posted 11-07-2010 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice neither of you used the supplied base. Any particular reason?

contra
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posted 11-07-2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Obviousman:
I notice neither of you used the supplied base. Any particular reason?

I just think it looks better without it. The base is pretty much only a black plastic box and you put the rocket on top of it. Also the base does not support the model against tipping over in anyway. To make sure the model is safe I ordered a custom made display case.

GACspaceguy
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posted 11-07-2010 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Obviousman:
I notice neither of you used the supplied base. Any particular reason?

Simple answer, the base was too big for the curio we put it in.

apolloprojeckt
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posted 11-08-2010 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will wait to production round two...

GoesTo11
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posted 11-08-2010 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The dealer I bought from informed my by email over the weekend that my model will ship tomorrow, so I should get it late this week. Did you have any assembly difficulties I should know about?

Apolloman
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posted 11-09-2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apolloman   Click Here to Email Apolloman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not had any problems at the general assembly except for the SLA (two parts white, colorless and two parts with notches) there is a certain sense to follow because the parties are already peer (the two white and two sets of even colorless). But how can I put in there with a pair one piece right and left.

FireballXL5
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posted 11-15-2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireballXL5   Click Here to Email FireballXL5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tranquility base here, the Eagle has landed!

I have finally received my Saturn V a few days ago at a cost of $225 + $12 S/H and began building it and ran into the normal problems that you guys have posted and was much less frustrating reading the posts!

Two small minor glitches: the clear piece below the SLA adapter had stress cracks in it and I was also missing from the backside one small plastic strip! Called my hobby shop dealer and we opened up another kit. I took what I needed gave him the bad piece back. He made an RMA for the kit to go back. Anyone else have this problem?

Obviousman
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posted 11-16-2010 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which part number was missing? The strip that was meant to be on the S-II stage?

FireballXL5
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posted 11-16-2010 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireballXL5   Click Here to Email FireballXL5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I don't have the instruction manual as I forgot to get it back from the hobby shop and the one out of the new kit was warped and needed to be glued in place as it would not stay snapped in. Thanks for asking. At the risk of feeling stupid how do I post pictures?

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PeterO
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posted 11-17-2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found it for only $199.99, here: Just Plane Fun

The price includes free ground shipping, but I splurged and paid $8.95 extra for Priority Mail.

I can't say how good their service is, since this is the first order I've placed with them. However, they're well known in the diecast collectible arena. I'll let you know how it goes.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-27-2010 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 4D Vision Saturn V is now available for order through buySPACE via The Space Store.

jeffbassett
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posted 11-29-2010 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeffbassett   Click Here to Email jeffbassett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Hobby Lobby website has a coupon for 40% off any regular priced item for in store purchases. That will make the Shuttle $60. The coupon is good only until December 4. You can print it out at home and shop locally.

Here's hoping the Saturns make it in the next few days there.

Philip
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posted 11-30-2010 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How long did it take for a complete built? No European dealer yet?

Lunokhod 2
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posted 11-30-2010 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunokhod 2   Click Here to Email Lunokhod 2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andromeda24 is selling it.

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posted 11-30-2010 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henk Boshuijer   Click Here to Email Henk Boshuijer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aviation Megastore is selling it as well.

PeterO
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posted 11-30-2010 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My purchase took only a week to arrive from Just Plane Fun. (See my original posting 6 posts above.) They refunded my $8.95 postage too, so the total price was $199.95. That's the lowest I've seen anywhere, so I'm quite happy about that.

I haven't been able to check it out yet, since it's a Christmas present.

Now I'm seriously considering getting this LUT model to mount it on.

cspg
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posted 12-02-2010 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Flying Mule has it too. And the Shuttle and the F-14.

MikeSpace
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Got one last week.

Haven't started it yet but it's packaged nicely and as others have shown looks real nice. Assembly tips definitely appreciated.

What kind of glues are you using? CA? Slow? Fast? Been a while since I built a model, plastic or balsa.

cspg
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posted 12-12-2010 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought you didn't need glue at all...

Obviousman
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posted 12-12-2010 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Obviousman   Click Here to Email Obviousman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No glue at all. Just click it together.

Philip
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posted 12-12-2010 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That should make assembly "easy" for all of us not-model-builders

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-12-2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FameMaster's 4D series are less model kits as they are construction toys. Think LEGO more than Revell, but with much more detailed snap together pieces.

As a comparison, the target age group for the 4D Vision shuttle is 14+, whereas the target age for LEGO's recent Space Shuttle Adventure is 16+.

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posted 12-13-2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for apolloprojeckt   Click Here to Email apolloprojeckt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The prices are already dropping I see...


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