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Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-13-2019 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though not exactly a space artifact, of possible interest to some, MotoArt is now offering a PlaneTag made from a Boeing 747 that was used to build Stratolaunch.
This Boeing 747 N198UA took its first flight May 1997 and flew international routes for United Airlines until it was retired in March 2009. It began the second journey of its career in March 2012 when its cockpit and controls, engines, pylons, landing gear, actuators, electrical, hydraulics and fuel subsystems were incorporated into the Stratolaunch, the world's largest aircraft by wingspan. As part of the Stratolaunch, this plane will live on to carry satellites and rockets into space.

thisismills
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posted 12-11-2019 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those interested, here is some Titan II missile skin for sale. Pima Air & Space Museum and the Arizona Aerospace Foundation donated the Titan II materials for this tag to support the Titan Missile Museum.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-05-2021 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MotoArt makes mementos from scrapped NASA shuttle launch platform

When NASA announced earlier this year that it was going to destroy one of its three historic structures that was used to support Apollo rockets and space shuttles, the fate of Mobile Launch Platform-2 (MLP-2) seemed to be sealed as scrap metal. That is, until fans of MotoArt's PlaneTags heard the news.

Now, the public can own a small part of space shuttle history, thanks to a 20-year-old company with a reputation for preserving aviation history by making products out of old airplane parts.

MajTom7
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posted 08-05-2021 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MajTom7   Click Here to Email MajTom7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just went on sale. There is a 15% off discount code APP15. (You beat me to it on posting the information here, Robert!)

mode1charlie
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posted 08-05-2021 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ordered!

By the way, for the record for Apollo fans: MLP-2 was the one used for Apollo 6, 9, 12, and 14, and also for the Skylab vehicle.

Greggy_D
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posted 08-05-2021 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been 2 or 3 years since I have bought an artifact that is space related, so I picked one up. Looks like a cool item. Thank you for posting the discount.

randyc
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posted 08-05-2021 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randyc   Click Here to Email randyc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These were made from the Shuttle-specific tail service masts so there really isn't a direct connection to the MLP used during the Apollo and Skylab programs.

JLR1
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posted 08-05-2021 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLR1   Click Here to Email JLR1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the heads up. The discount code they texted me didn't work, which I thought was odd, but the one suggested above did, so all is good.

MajTom7
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posted 08-05-2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MajTom7   Click Here to Email MajTom7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My understanding is that NASA insisted that the information "card" include an Apollo mention. That's why MotoArt highlighted the tail service masts as the source of the metal. They would have liked to have taken the decking of the MLP-2 yet that would have been too expensive.

prowler5150
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posted 08-06-2021 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prowler5150   Click Here to Email prowler5150     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the dimensions of the tags?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-06-2021 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each MLP-2 tag is a 3-inch oval that is half an inch thick (8 cm by 1.3 cm).

mode1charlie
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posted 08-06-2021 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by randyc:
These were made from the Shuttle-specific tail service masts so there really isn't a direct connection to the MLP used during the Apollo and Skylab programs.

Thanks for that important correction.

Guy DuMont
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posted 08-06-2021 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Guy DuMont   Click Here to Email Guy DuMont     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without having a direct connection to the MLP the price seems a bit high, particularly with release edition of 20,000.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-06-2021 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The production of these tags was much more expensive than any prior PlaneTag.

Frank-Lin Services, the contractor that conducted the demolition of MLP-2, reportedly sold the tail masts to MotoArt at a considerable price. Then, most of the work to prepare the tags needed to be outsourced due to the thickness of the steel. The water jetting, the laser etching and the printing on the aluminum backing cards were all outsourced.

Other PlaneTags are shipped on a coated paper backing card, but to support the weight of the MLP-2 tag, it needed to be cut from metal and include a magnet to hold the tag in place. New shipping materials were needed, too.

Add in the cost of labor and the need to accommodate a wholesale rate for distributors, and MotoArt's margin is lower than with many of its other PlaneTags.

That all being said, space collectors have paid more for models and replicas with no program-used material, and paid more for items associated with single shuttle missions (as compared to the more than 40 that MLP-2's tail service masts were involved in launching).

Ken Havekotte
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posted 08-06-2021 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great idea! NASA itself provided small-cut sections of ML-3 for souvenirs during the 1970's when Lee Scherer (and later Dick Smith) were center directors of KSC. I've got a few them inside their plastic display holders and I had thought that ML-1/2 had also been available at one time, but I am still checking on that.

The small 1/2" square-cut metal pieces, about 1/16" thick, were part of ML-3's lightning mask, however, the original ML-3 was in fact ML-1 since 1964.

ML-1 had been the original launching platform for Apollos 4, 8, and 11, including the later Skylab/Saturn 1B missions that included ASTP. After Apollo 17, though, ML-1 was modified to support the Saturn 1B flights of the four 1B crews for Skylab/ASTP with the designation of ML-3. Sounds confusing, huh? Me too!

(The center director's office during the mid/late 70's referred to it as ML-3 during this time period along with an engineering division that I have seen. That's why, or at least to me, it's been confusing.)

MajTom7
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posted 08-06-2021 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MajTom7   Click Here to Email MajTom7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does have a direct connection to the MLP-2 of the Shuttle era. It does not have a direct connection to ML-2 of the Apollo era.

MotoArt saved a small part of history that no one else wanted, a somewhat better fate than LUT-1, other than the one swing arm.

Greggy_D
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posted 08-12-2021 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone received a shipping notification yet?

JLR1
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posted 08-12-2021 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLR1   Click Here to Email JLR1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not...

tnperri
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posted 08-12-2021 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tnperri   Click Here to Email tnperri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still waiting.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-12-2021 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are daily multiple reports on Facebook of people receiving theirs. So MotoArt is shipping, it is just taking time to get through the orders.

fredtrav
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posted 08-13-2021 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These have just been on sale for a week. A week or two is not an unreasonable amount of time to get an order placed, get it processed, get it packaged and get it shipped. If you ordered a month ago, then you might have a right to be concerned, but a week? Especially on a new highly sought after piece.

JLR1
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posted 08-21-2021 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLR1   Click Here to Email JLR1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received #529 today. It is a nice collectible item, well done.

Dave_Johnson
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posted 08-21-2021 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave_Johnson   Click Here to Email Dave_Johnson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received mine today as well, #569. My son promptly absconded with it to his room.

When I had ordered it, the discount code MotoArt sent didn't work and I hadn't seen the other code posted here, so I was charged the full amount. I emailed them about this, providing the details about the code and the text message, and asked if I could get a refund of the discount amount. They did so promptly and without any hassle, so they appear to be serious about customer support!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-08-2021 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MotoArt has announced its next PlaneTag will be a re-release of the Lockheed SR-71 "Blackbird" reconnaissance aircraft operated by both the United States Air Force (USAF) and NASA. The previous PlaneTag was made from the original stabilizer of SR-71 tail no. 17967.

The new SR-71 PlaneTags will go on sale beginning at 11 a.m. PST (2 p.m. EST or 1900 GMT) on Tuesday, Nov. 9.

thisismills
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posted 11-09-2021 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thisismills   Click Here to Email thisismills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For reference, the SR-71 PlaneTags were offered in three varying thicknesses with associated prices below:
  • Exterior/Thin, $350
  • Exterior/Medium, $500
  • Exterior/Thick, $750

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-22-2021 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MotoArt is holding a Black Friday sale (beginning today, Nov. 22) that includes 30 percent off all orders of $250 or more (or 35 percent off orders totaling $400).

The Mobile Launch Platform-2 (MLP-2) PlaneTag released earlier this year retails for $249.95, so you would need to add another item to qualify for the 30% discount, or $75 savings on the MLP-2 tag. (A quick look through their catalog suggests the $19.99 MotoArts t-shirt may be the most inexpensive add-on.)

The MLP-2 tag alone qualifies for a 25% discount, or $62 savings.

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