Posts: 3280 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
posted 10-05-2020 08:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Buel: Perhaps it's just me but I see no benefit of a physical disc over digital...
Perhaps it's a generational thing. I would always go for the Blu-ray. It's a physical thing which I can hold in my hand, place in my video collection, and play whenever I want to. It's like the difference between having a library of books that you can hold in your hand and read while relaxed in an armchair, rather than a lot of digital data stored in a little metal box.
When I take holiday photographs with my digital camera, I store them on my computer; I store them on an external hard-drive; and I store them on a disc. But I also go to the pharmacy and make 7" x 5" prints of the best of them. One or two of the very best are enlarged and framed on my study wall to remind me regularly of a great holiday. I still have our family photo albums going back before I was born, and covering every family holiday from my childhood. Colour prints from the late 1960s are still fresh and vibrant. Where will anyone's digital photos be in 50 years? I doubt if more than a tiny fraction will still exist. The art of photography is being lost, replaced by a casual, superficial and utterly ephemeral snapping of selfies and other dross on phones.
Each to his own. A Blu-ray for me, please. I'll pay any reasonable price for it.
Panther494 Member
Posts: 494 From: London UK Registered: Jan 2013
posted 10-06-2020 03:55 AM
Well put, my thoughts exactly. I love having the physical collection and these on a Blu-ray set would be glorious.
apollo16uvc Member
Posts: 211 From: Next to LEM, Descartes Highlands, Moon Registered: Jan 2017
posted 10-06-2020 12:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by perineau: Fantastic work on the Gemini 4 EVA. Any chance of working with the film of the Gemini 9A EVA?
Thank you. I checked the 9A footage out, lots of awesome, slow orbiting shots. Short scenes of EVA, a bit dark.
I think a better candidate is Gemini 12, Buzz Aldrin's EVA seems to have been recorded from two angles as well like Gemini 4. I should be able to acquire Gemini 12 files with YouTube money next month.
As for storage and sharing of my work on physical media. I do think STAMPED optical media has the potential to outlast any magnetic or solid-state medium such as hard drives, tapes or memory cards. They are also not affected by stray magnetic fields.
Disc rot is a problem, but less so with Blu-rays because the layers are made out of silver instead of aluminium.
The ultimate long-term disc storage are M-Discs. Available as Blu-rays and DVDs, They are supposed to be able to last hundreds of years, and the data is etched into an inorganic stone layer. They are very expensive unfortunately.
Unfortunately I would not know where to start. And I fear one of the publishing conditions will be the removal of my video's from YouTube. The latter would be a no-go for me.
Buel Member
Posts: 757 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
posted 10-06-2020 05:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Blackarrow: Perhaps it's a generational thing...
Very well explained, Geoffrey!!
Space Cadet Carl Member
Posts: 265 From: Lake Orion, MI Registered: Feb 2006
posted 10-12-2020 06:53 AM
The problem with streaming is you can't watch or listen to everything out there, anytime that you want. Music historians are always complaining about what they can't access on Pandora and other streaming services. A lot of movies can't be accessed anytime you want either... and if you do find it you're renting it online for a charge. Countries like Japan are still interested in owning physical CD's and Blu Ray discs for this exact reason.
Buel Member
Posts: 757 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
posted 10-12-2020 02:51 PM
Downloads would resolve this. Yours to keep.
Space Cadet Carl Member
Posts: 265 From: Lake Orion, MI Registered: Feb 2006
posted 10-13-2020 05:08 AM
I agree... once everything anyone would possibly want is available for download, then that would absolutely work.
apollo16uvc Member
Posts: 211 From: Next to LEM, Descartes Highlands, Moon Registered: Jan 2017
posted 11-22-2020 03:42 AM
I wouldn't feel right asking for a sum of money, even if fair, for merely online digital downloads. Then I would go the extra mile and provide a physical stamped Blu-ray disc that under fair conditions can last several decades.
I tried some things on a website and I think the cost per disc was 10-15 euro for 50 discs at once. You can always download off of YouTube. Not Blu-ray quality, of course.
Apollo 9 Lunar Module Spider in Orbit, rendezvous with Command Module Gumdrop in 1969. Crew: James McDivitt, David Scott & Rusty Schweickart.
Audio is an approximation and may be off.
Panther494 Member
Posts: 494 From: London UK Registered: Jan 2013
posted 11-22-2020 12:40 PM
Fantastic work again. Well done. I'm hoping that you can work out something on Blu ray, would gladly pay those sort of prices and more.
Blackarrow Member
Posts: 3280 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
posted 11-23-2020 05:07 PM
Agreed! 100%.
Space Cadet Carl Member
Posts: 265 From: Lake Orion, MI Registered: Feb 2006
posted 11-25-2020 12:00 PM
These videos are amazing. You're taking vintage film footage and providing a new, "you are there," live broadcast look to them.
apollo16uvc Member
Posts: 211 From: Next to LEM, Descartes Highlands, Moon Registered: Jan 2017
posted 12-20-2020 07:07 AM
Apollo 11 views around the Moon in Lunar orbit. Crew: Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, Buzz Aldrin
16mm DAC footage interpolated from 6 to 24fps with AI. Interpolation may create artefacts that are not present in the original footage.
Raw 16mm film: NASA, archive.org. Audio and Audio Timings: NASA, Apollo 11 in Real Time. Audio is an approximation and may be off.
apollo16uvc Member
Posts: 211 From: Next to LEM, Descartes Highlands, Moon Registered: Jan 2017
posted 01-31-2021 12:57 PM
Revisited Apollo 14 with newer higher resolution sources from the Apollo Lunar Flight Journal. For the anniversary!
Unfortunately YouTube seems to be stuck at processing the 4K version... so just HD for now.
oly Member
Posts: 1185 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 01-31-2021 08:04 PM
Thanks for sharing, the resolution of this image helps show the challenge the crew had climbing Cone Crater and also why Shepard states that they landed on a little bit of a slope.
apollo16uvc Member
Posts: 211 From: Next to LEM, Descartes Highlands, Moon Registered: Jan 2017
posted 04-10-2021 05:12 PM
Thanks a lot!
These latest HD scans of the original film really are on an other level. When properly processed they are simply stunning.
Apollo 17 Deep Space EVA interpolated from 6 to 24fps. synchronized with audio and 70mm stills:
Panther494 Member
Posts: 494 From: London UK Registered: Jan 2013
posted 04-10-2021 06:59 PM
Remarkable. Thank you so much for continuing to do these. Just makes it all look so fresh and new.
posted 10-05-2020 08:47 PM
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