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cspg
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Into the Black: The Extraordinary Untold Story of the First Flight of the Space Shuttle and the Men Who Flew Her
by Rowland White
with a foreword by Richard Truly
The real-life techno-thriller from a bestselling author and aviation expert that recaptures the historic moments leading up to the launch of the space shuttle Columbia and the exciting story of her daring maiden flight.

Using interviews, NASA oral histories, and recently declassified material, Into the Black pieces together the dramatic untold story of the Columbia mission and the brave people who dedicated themselves to help the United States succeed in the age of space exploration. On April 12, 1981, NASA's Space Shuttle Columbia blasted off from Cape Canaveral. It was the most advanced, state-of-the-art flying machine ever built, challenging the minds and imagination of America's top engineers and pilots. Columbia was the world's first real spaceship: a winged rocket plane, the size of an airliner, and capable of flying to space and back before preparing to fly again.

On board were moonwalker John Young and test pilot Bob Crippen. Less than an hour after Young and Crippen's spectacular departure from the Cape, all was not well. Tiles designed to protect the ship from the blowtorch burn of re-entry were missing from the heat shield. If the damage to Columbia was too great, the astronauts wouldn't be able to return safely to earth. NASA turned to the National Reconnaissance Office, a spy agency hidden deep inside the Pentagon whose very existence was classified. To help the ship, the NRO would attempt something never done before. Success would require skill, perfect timing, and luck.

Set against the backdrop of the Cold War, Into the Black is a thrilling race against time and the incredible true story of the first space shuttle mission that celebrates our passion for spaceflight

  • Hardcover: 464 pages
  • Touchstone (April 19, 2016)
  • ISBN-10: 1501123629
  • ISBN-13: 978-1501123627

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I picked this up in the new non-fiction section of my local bookshop. I wasn't aware of it before today. There are three photographic sections within the 436 pages.

I haven't started reading it yet, but some of the luminaries praising it on the dust jacket are Mike Foale, David Scott, Mike Mullane and Chris Hadfield. Looks interesting.

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"Into the Black" flew into the black...
Cambridge Man Returns Space Shuttle to Space

Cambridge based author Rowland White is a man with a lifelong ambition to go into space.

On 12th April, the 35th anniversary of the maiden flight of space shuttle Columbia, Rowland took a step closer to his childhood dream by launching a copy of his new critically acclaimed book, "Into the Black," the story of the first flight of NASA's revolutionary space shuttle, to the edge of space.

"Into the Black" was a 'labour of love' (The Times), and the culmination of a boyhood obsession. The space shuttle was the spaceship of Rowland's generation — not even born when Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. Obsessed with aeroplanes as a boy and on the back of Star Wars, Star Trek, and James Bond's Moonraker, the shuttle completely captured Rowland's imagination. He even rigged up a cassette recorder in front of the TV to record the BBC's pre-launch commentary.

Rowland comments: "The shuttle was grounded in 2011. But on the 35th anniversary of the first flight, it seemed fitting to return her to space — where she belonged — one last time as a reminder of the incredible achievement she represented. I want to rekindle a bit of the awe and wonder she generated when she first flew. The shuttle was the last great achievement of the Apollo generation."

The launch is particularly timely given Tim Peake's current location. Without the shuttle, it is safe to say there would have been no space station. Taking astronauts to and from a space station was what she was built to do.

As Rowland explains: "To send a book into space while a British astronaut orbits Earth is the icing on the cake. I was in touch with Tim Peake before his launch and I'll be tweeting him about our anniversary "shuttle launch." And telling him that there's a copy of 'Into the Black' waiting for him on his return — delivered by more traditional methods. But here's hoping that Tim will look out of the window and catch sight of this one though!"

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posted 04-13-2016 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepSea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vulcan 607 was an excellent read, so hopefully his angle on STS-1 will be interesting.

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posted 04-14-2016 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spoon   Click Here to Email Spoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enjoying the book so far, for what it's worth.

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posted 04-14-2016 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for contra   Click Here to Email contra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just finished the book and have just one comment: 'EXCELLENT.'

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posted 04-14-2016 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please can anyone that has this in hard copy let me know if it contains pictures or diagrams? I'm considering getting it on Kindle, and those don't tend to come out particularly well.

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posted 04-16-2016 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To answer my own question, yes it does.

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Just learned via my friend John McGauley that I'm mentioned in Roland White's book "Into the Black" (page 387).

This book was already on my must by list, but it gets moved up a bit!

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Just finished this. Although it seems to be aimed at a general audience, I reckon it's still worth reading by those who've followed the shuttle in more detail. There's a handful of errors (mostly inconsequential), and a few contentious points, but overall very good indeed. Oh, and the pictures on the Kindle edition are good quality and just about large enough.
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
Just learned via my friend John McGauley that I'm mentioned in Roland White's book "Into the Black" (page 387).
Tim, did you ever produce a design for STS-62A?

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Fantastic book with great details of the beginning of the Shuttle program. Couldn't put it down!

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I just got this yesterday along with the second "Blue Gemini" book. Gotta flip a coin to see which one I'll start reading first...

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I recently finished reading "Into the Black" and thought it was excellent. Though many of the stories were ones I had read or heard of before, there were enough new insights to make this a page turner.

Of particular note is how the history of the the Manned Orbiting Laboratory shaped the development of the space shuttle, in no small part due to the transplanted MOL astronauts and the pivotal roles they played in the early NASA program.

White's approach to telling the history of the space shuttle reads more like a novel than it does a text book, which is what really makes "Into the Black" an enjoyable, easy read.

I will be writing more about "Into the Black" as part of collectSPACE's coverage of the upcoming STS-1 and STS-2 35th anniversary celebration being hosted by the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation in Houston this September.

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While I agree that it's a great book and it finally gives insights to the STS-1 mission, you have to read through a LOT of stuff to get there. I would say that the book, to me, didn't come even remotely interesting until it started talking about the deliveries of the orbiters and the ALT test landings. Before that, I actually found myself passing page after page of what seemed to be extraneous info...

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posted 07-14-2016 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neo1022   Click Here to Email neo1022     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The audio book is fantastic...

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posted 07-14-2016 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by p51:
...seemed to be extraneous info
I guess it depends on your perspective, but what you label as extraneous, I read as pivotal to understanding how the shuttle came to be and why it was as much a creature of politics as it was a product of the people who were in place at the time. In a lot of ways, the story of the shuttle is much more complex than the programs that came before it.

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Yeah, I get that, but there were times I wondered if the book originally started off with George Cayley's gilder experiments in the 19th century and the editor hacked that part off. It goes back much further than I thought was relevant at times. It felt forced, as if he was told to have a certain number of pages and fell short, so he just kept digging further back into history. It almost reminded me of the "Big Bang Theory" episode where Sheldon is trying to teach Penny about basic physics by starting with a narrative taking place in ancient Greece.

Now, all that said, about 150-175 pages into the book, it really picks up and was WELL worth slogging through the first parts.

I mention this as people with short attention spans or not really interested in setting their Wayback machine that far back might not realize it gets much better later on. There are some pretty bad reviews on Amazon for this reason and I wanted potential readers to not be swayed away from this good book by the fact it takes a long while to get to what many would consider to be "the interesting part."

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I have to agree that it probably does go a bit too far into the back story of the program. For instance the in depth description of the rescue of Skylab, while a very interesting part of NASA's history, isn't necessarily needed to understand where the Shuttle came from. Fortunately the prose and pace makes up for this and keeps it interesting even when covering material beyond the scope of the book, or material I already knew.

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For me, the Skylab rescue set the stage for two stories: the role of the NRO in the STS-1 flight (and Hans Mark's contributions therein) and Fred Haise's ultimate fate as it concerned the shuttle program.

Could both be told without so much detail? Sure. But I think you miss something if you gloss over that event.

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Robert, you have persuaded me to buy as after looking it up on Amazon, and able to look into the contents, it seems an interesting book. A good offer too as only £10 for a hardcover copy and a free postage deal over here in the UK.

I already have Rowland White's Vulcan 607 and that is a great read so I am looking forward to obtaining this one as well.

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Finished reading and can't find fault at all. Did not find any of it boring as so well written and well researched, and as you say Robert, it is not unlike a novel and I did not want to put it down.

So much information I did not know about even after reading the excellent "Bold They Rise" from the Outward Odyssey series. The use of the NRO KH-11 Kennen spy satellite was new to me and was amazing.

Also good to read more of the group seven ex MOL astronauts who had to wait such a long time for their flights.

Highly recommended.

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Air&Space Magazine has released an excerpt from the new and revised version of "Into the Black", which is due to come out on April 18th, about STS-1 and the KH-11 NRO satellite.

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Why is a book only a year since being released having a new, revised edition coming out with updated information? I almost feel like I've been scammed. Will the author let us swap out our "old" book for the new edition?

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This is the softcover edition; it is not uncommon for revisions to be made when reprinted as a trade paperback.

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I agree with Robert. As an author and editor, a second edition gives you the chance to correct any typos or errors of fact in a book, and if the publisher is willing, to add any newly-found material. Sometimes these changes are minimal, sometimes not.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kevmac:
I almost feel like I've been scammed.
Agreed.

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I don't, I look forward to seeing new information.

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As with any other industry that we deal with on a daily basis, I'm sorely disappointed at the lack of standards in parts (not all, I know) of the publishing world. We see examples of products/books being released to the public that aren't ready for prime time. Where is the quality writing, proof-reading, fact checking, and thoroughness of work in a first release where a another version has to be released in a year that is new, revised that "corrects any typos or errors of fact in a book"?

I don't think it's a case of "if you want it bad, you'll get it bad!" As a consumer, when I buy something, I'd like it to last awhile before I have to get a new one. I don't believe this is a wide-spread problem and do see both sides of this picture and the perspective of Robert and Colin, but it doesn't make me feel any better. Of course I want the new version and will get it eventually, taking the first version to Half-Price Books and getting $1.00 back for it.

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Granted, I'm about to be guilty of the same thing just by writing this, but you're assuming that the revised information was available prior to "Into the Black" being published.

I don't know the nature of the updates (and it is very possible the "revised edition" promo is more marketing by the publisher than actual revisions), but over the past couple of years there have been a good number of declassification releases (including all of the Manned Orbiting Laboratory files) that are relevant to this topic. There is no way Rowland White could have known what was going to come out when, and maybe there have been new insights in the interim. That's not the fault of the author or publisher, but just a coincidence of timing.

Likewise, what if the book reached the hands of someone who knew more about a topic or two but that White nor any of his contacts knew had such information when the book was written?

Again, I don't know the nature of the revisions and my own suppositions may be completely off the mark, but they are examples of how a revised edition — even just a year after publishing — could be warranted.

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In the multi-media world, I don't mind the revised versions, as sometimes someone's passing and/or new information of original publishing comes to light, and I welcome the new facts which come to light. In regard to the errors, I would agree with disappointing views as why not get it right the first time.

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For anyone interested, Rowland White will be at the Ryedale Book Festival, Saturday 23rd September, to talk about his book "Into the Black."

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