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AJ
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Just out of idle curiosity, does the poster belong to a cS member/reader?
That belongs to my dear friend Michelle. She's an avid space/aviation nut. As far as I know, she does not post on cS, though she may read the board from time to time.

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Al Worden with all of the named authors of his forthcoming book (foreword author Dick Gordon, epilogue author Tom Stafford, and co-author Francis French) at Spacefest III in Tucson with a review copy.

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That belongs to my dear friend Michelle.
Michelle came by Al Worden's booth at Spacefest, and we had a great chat about the magazine photo. Here's a photo with her, Al, and the magazine.

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I'm sure it's back in the posting somewhere, but what is the status on the release of the book? I'm exited to read it!

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According to the publisher, the on sale date is July 26.

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According to the publisher, the on sale date is July 26.
Great, thanks Robert! I've got mine pre-ordered.

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An epic drama of adventure and exploration...

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As many of you know, there is never enough room in a book like this to put in all the photos that a reader might like to see - especially in color. While this book will contain many never-before-seen photos, Al also wanted to give readers an extra, free bonus.

If you go to this web page, you'll find a fascinating selection of unique, rare photos of Al from childhood up to the present day.

We'll be sharing some on the book's Facebook page too. Enjoy!

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Recorded in February but debuting here today, astronaut and author Buzz Aldrin gives his endorsement to "Falling To Earth: An Apollo 15 Astronaut's Journey To The Moon."

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An interview with Apollo 15 Command Module Pilot Al Worden recorded during his recent visit to the UK, is now available as episode 45 on my blog. I met up with him in London following his visit to Glasgow in May.

He talks about his career as a test pilot prior to joining NASA, Apollo 15 mission and his autobiography.

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BoingBoing feature interview with Col, Al Worden, Apollo 15 CMP.
Avi: Could you tell us a little about your autobiography

Al: Most of the book is about where I come from, how I grew up and how I selected the career path that I did and going through school and all that.

The first part of the book is about spending the days on the farm with my granddad and learning how to be responsible. You got dumb animals out there that rely on you to do everything for them. That's a thought process that I've kept all my life. But I decided when I was a kid that I would not spend the rest of my time on a farm so that's why I pursued going to college and eventually to the Air Force.

But then we get into the space program and the aftermath of our flight. As you know our flight was kind of singled out back in the day because we carried some postal covers that created quite a stir. The last part of the book is about how I sued the US Government. They had asked us to turn all of these thing in while they investigated the incident, then they didn't want to return them. So I sued them back in the 80s on behalf of all the astronauts and we took that through the Department of Justice and got everything back.

And what I've done since then because I've applied myself to helping charities and working with kids I think to try and get some respect back.

Enjoy!

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I just saw this review of Al Worden’s new book on the Universe Today website here.

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I thought folks here might be interested to read some of the reviews that have come in to the publisher, some of which will appear on the book jacket - including one from collectSPACE's own Michael Cassutt.
"The command module pilot (CMP), the second in command of an Apollo spacecraft, was the least understood and least appreciated crew member by the media and the general public. In Falling to Earth, Al Worden, CMP of Apollo 15, clearly and candidly recounts the wonder, the challenge, the triumph, and the pitfalls of flying to the moon."

Neil Armstrong, Gemini 8 and Apollo 11 astronaut

"Ever wonder what it would be like to spend several days orbiting the moon— alone? Al Worden's expressive description of his Apollo 15 mission takes you there, and then on the 250,000-mile return, falling to Earth. This is not just another space mission book. In his intense, tell-it-as-he-sees-it style, Worden details what led to that wondrous experience and all that followed."

John Glenn, first American to orbit the Earth

"The space program first rewarded, and then punished, Al Worden — and he is better for it, as this exceptional book reveals. It's the full story, told with clarity, insight, and humor, altogether a wonderful read."

Michael Collins, Gemini 10 and Apollo 11 astronaut, author of Carrying the Fire

"Very few of us flew to the moon, and the stories we brought back with us are special, treasured, and unique. Al is both a pilot and a poet, and his honest portrayal of our exhilarating adventures will move and excite a whole new generation."

Buzz Aldrin, Gemini 12 and Apollo 11 astronaut, author of Magnificent Desolation: The Long Journey Home from the Moon

"A rip-roaring adventure— a wry and fascinating chronicle of a time when we actually knew how to fly people to the moon."

Tom Jones, space shuttle astronaut, author of Sky Walking

"Al Worden does a fine job telling his interesting life story, his important role as the command module pilot for the highly successful Apollo 15 flight— and his abrupt firing as a NASA astronaut. The ins and outs of this latter story and his personal fall to Earth make for especially fascinating reading."

William Anders, Major General USAF (ret), Apollo 8 astronaut

"The talented men who made the pioneering flights to the moon were test pilots and scientists, team players and egomaniacs, goodie two-shoes and skirt-chasers, all driven by a shared goal— to go higher, faster, further than anyone in history. Al Worden was one of the best of this elite group: the first rookie astronaut to be entrusted with the tricky job of flying an Apollo command module, and ultimately a member of Apollo 15, the most scientifically productive lunar mission. His story, written with noted space historian Francis French, is a worthy companion to Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff.

Michael Cassutt, co-author of Deke! and We Have Capture

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Leonard David has posted his review of Al Worden’s new book "Falling To Earth" on the Coalition For Space Exploration website here.

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I've seen enough to know that Michael Cassutt is a great writer and great space historian, but he states in his review of Falling to Earth, Al Worden was "the first rookie astronaut to be entrusted with the tricky job of flying an Apollo command module." What about Jack Swigert and Stu Roosa? What am I missing?

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Mel, trying to sort through the assignment chart on Wikipedia is a bit challenging, but it appears to me that Worden was selected as a backup CMP for Apollo 12 prior to either Roosa, Mattingly, and of course, Swigert. Maybe that's what Mr. Cassutt was getting at.

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Worden was the first rookie CMP to be assigned... early March 1969, as backup to Gordon on Apollo 12. Roosa wasn't assigned, as prime Apollo 13, until May 1969 -- and that got changed to A14 in August. Mattingly was shadowing Anders as backup CMP for Apollo 11 from April 1969, then prime for A13. Swigert was assigned Apollo 13 backup CMP in August 1969. He flew first, of course. Clear?

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The local Barnes & Noble bookstore (Newington, NH) has 4 copies on the shelf today.

Not autographed, of course.

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I will be interviewing Al Worden next week about "Falling to Earth." I realize many have yet to receive their copies, let alone read the book, but if you have questions you'd like to be considered for inclusion in the interview, you're welcome to post them here or e-mail me.

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I (and I'm sure everyone else) would like to know if the training on earth (under water and in sims) was good preparation for his deep-space EVA outside the CSM; the view must have been breathtaking, as seen in that painting reproduced in a National Geographic issue on the mission.

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Originally posted by Michael Cassutt:
Clear?
I knew there was a good answer; I just couldn't figure it out. Thanks!

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Looking forward to reading it!

As a side note, a quickie calculation shows that at the time of Al's spacewalk, from his vantage point the Earth was about 2.3 degrees in diameter, and the Moon about 2.8 degrees in diameter. So even though he was still most of the way to the Moon, he was far enough away that it wasn't "looming" behind him, contrary to what I always imagined. Both of the two nearest solar system bodies to him appeared just slightly larger than the tip of his thumb held at arm's length.

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Couldn't make it to the NASM event (really bummed about it) and I am watching the webcast. Everything I've heard about Col. Worden is really apparent. He seems like a really funny and wonderful guy. I've been trying to get the Franklin Institute to host a signing, hope they do one. Can't wait to get my copy.

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(Edited to add: Spoiler Alert-- the following review gives away some of "secrets" of the story. Do not read this review if this will lessen your enjoyment of the book.)

"Falling to Earth" - An Appreciation

The short of it: Beautifully written. Brutally honest. A good read. Destined to be remembered as among the best of astronaut autobiographies.

The long of it: Apollo 15 command module pilot Col. Alfred Worden tells the story of his life starting as a poor farmboy in Michigan, his path to become one of only 24 humans who have gone to the Moon, his fall from grace over a scandal that was only partially his fault, and his redemption helping deserving young men and women attend college.

Worden is scrupulously honest in this recounting — hard on both himself and his Apollo 15 crew-mates for their faults (as well as praising their virtues). He describes how his own first marriage fell apart over time because of his long absences and his single-minded attention to his work. While he became close to the late Jim Irwin, Worden faults him for being a "yes-man" to their commander Col. Dave Scott.

One of the important themes of the book is the very ambiguous relationship between Worden and Dave Scott, who was the "fair-haired boy" of the astronaut office who many predicted would become a general (like his father) and a future Chief of Staff of the Air Force. Worden admired Scott's flying skills, his leadership abilities, and his total dedication to the success of their mission, but Scott had an ethical lapse which cost them dearly.

The crew of Apollo 15 "fell to earth" after their flight because of a scandal involving philatelic covers. Dave Scott made an agreement before the flight with a German friend, Horst Walter Eiermann, to carry envelopes to the Moon on behalf of German stamp dealer Hermann Sieger. The agreement was that the covers would not be sold until after the Apollo program, and then only privately. In exchange, each astronaut would receive $7,000, deposited into a bank account. However, shortly after the mission, Sieger sold some of the covers publicly, breaching the agreement.

The problem with this affair was that the astronauts were personally profiting from their flight by commercializing the covers. Now previous crews had signed "insurance covers" left on the ground to be sold in case they died to help their families (insurance companies would not cover them). And a few covers were carried to the Moon by previous crews as personal mementoes. But the Apollo 15 Sieger covers, arranged by Dave Scott, were an immediate quid pro quo for cash. Worse, Scott did not list the covers on the required written notification to chief astronaut Deke Slayton of items to be carried aboard their spacecraft.

When word of the sale of the Sieger covers spread, the Apollo 15 crew was called on the carpet, fired from the Astronaut Office, and called to testify before Congress (ironically a year after they were honored to speak at a Joint Meeting of Congress following their mission).

Worden faults his commander Dave Scott for not taking full responsibility for the Sieger covers, which Scott had arranged. Worden acknowledges that he acquiesced to the plan at a meeting and also signed the covers after the flight. But as has been suspected for years, Dave Scott was the one who organized the agreement to carry the covers in exchange for cash, described as for their kids' college educations, and for keeping it secret from Slayton. Ironically, until the facts came out, Worden was the prime suspect of NASA management because they knew he had been a stamp collector.

After word leaked out of the scheme, the Apollo 15 crew returned the money and fully cooperated with investigations by NASA, the Justice Department, and Congress. They were never charged with any crime and years later received the seized covers back.

The affair was akin to a Greek tragedy for all three astronauts, but especially Scott and Worden (Irwin had already decided to resign from NASA). Scott's fatal flaw in the tragedy was to agree to accept cash for the covers and then not disclose that the covers were to be carried in his personal preference kit (PPK) to the Moon. As a result, Scott lost the opportunity to fly in space again (commander of ASTP was a possibility) and his Air Force career was ruined by the letter of reprimand all three men received. He was, however, years later appointed director of NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center where the space shuttle was tested in the ALT flights.

Besides the Sieger covers, Worden had agreed to carry other covers with a "phases of the Moon" design for an acquaintance, F. Herrick Herrick. However, Worden reported the covers in his PPK list and never received any money for them. In exchange for carrying them on Endeavour, Worden received a portion of them.

Slayton, Chris Kraft and other astronauts ostracized Worden and he was given a deadline to get out of the Astronaut Office. A sympathetic Hans Mark arranged for Worden to go to Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, California where he eventually headed a NASA aircraft research program.

Years later, both in this book and in real life, Worden has been ambivalent about his former commander. In this book Worden tells, from his point of view, the full story of the cover fiasco for the first time, and his belief that Scott evaded responsibility for the scheme.

Another important theme of the book is the mind-boggling advance of technology. Worden describes growing up poor on farms in Michigan during the 1930's. At times he lived in houses with no indoor plumbing and no telephone. He was fascinated by electronics (a trait from his father) and especially by cars. It was a big leap for the farmboy to go to the University of Michigan for a year but he could not afford further college. He found a new life on the strict grounds of West Point. Worden was not a pilot at a young age, such as other astronauts; in fact, he did not choose to go into pilot training until the end of his West Point stay.

One of the best parts of the book is his description of his wild pilot and test pilot training days and how he developed a love of flying. However, he had an engineer's mentality which stood him in good stead as his career advanced. Technology was also speeding along. and Worden soon flew jets and other advanced aircraft, both in the U.S. and in Britain. He was chosen as an astronaut in 1966 and soon the farmboy was enmeshed with the Apollo command module, upon which he became an expert.

The book gives an excellent description of what astronauts do long before they fly. He spent over a year at the California factory that built the Apollo command module, doing detailed and boring engineering work. While the astronauts were able to fly T-38 jets and go on survival training missions, much of their job was tedious — developing written procedures, flipping switches in spacecraft to test them, attending meeting after meeting.

Worden was among the first in his 1966 group to get an assignment on a support crew and then a back-up crew. With Apollo 15 he got his first (and what turned out to be only) space flight assignment on the first and longer"J mission" to the Moon — which emphasized science more than previous missions. While Scott and Irwin were to land, Worden would remain in orbit alone for three days.

Worden's description in the book of his time in orbit around the Moon is true poetry — how the Moon looked and his own reactions to the experience. He was the most alone person in the universe for those three days, especially when he was in orbit behind the Moon and cut off from communication with the Earth. He tells of how his view of Earth from lunar orbit changed his perspective — there were no borders, just a bright, blue, small ball in space.

The mission was a resounding success and the crew received accolades around the world. Yet months later Worden was an outcast, reminiscent of the old saying "The higher they go, the harder they fall."

The last part of the book tells how Worden redeemed himself. Staying at NASA Ames for a while and then going into private industry. An unsuccessful run for Congress. A second marriage, to his wife Jill. And gaining satisfaction and respect by his leadership involvement in the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation, which awards $10,000 college scholarships to deserving students in science and engineering.

Reading this book, I had trouble putting it down. The story is engrossing, the writing is clear yet wonderfully descriptive, and the honest character of the man comes through. Along with his co-writer Francis French, Col Worden has produced one of the best astronaut autobiographies.

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I hope this isn't seen as a criticism as the above post is well written and executed, but possibly should be marked with a 'spoilers ahead' tag for folk who have yet to read the book (such as me ).

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SPOILER ALERT

I found it very interesting that Al did not yearn to fly as a kid. This is the first astronaut biography where flight was not a big part of the young person's life. He goes so far as to say "I hope I like flying" when he chooses to sign up for the Air Force.

If I might add a small criticism - this is also the first astronaut biography that makes a big deal of the support crews. The way Al talks about them, being on a support crew was equal to being on the backup crew; and being on either was nearly the same as being a prime crewmember. I disagree, and hope we're not seeing a trend where astronauts list their support and backup crew assignments along with their flight assignments.

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I just finished the book. It is clearly one of the better astronaut written accounts of Apollo that I have read. Worden's recounting of the training for and flight of Apollo 15 is very complete and fills in some of the experiences that I have not seen elsewhere. It is a very compelling read.

He is also very open about the origins of the postal cover scandal, the aftermath, and the long term effects on the three crew members. I own one of the Sieger covers, and I feel that it is even more special to me now since I know some of the details of its history.

This is a very, very good book to add to the history of Apollo.

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I just got in from a shopping trip south to the Buffalo area for a mid week visit to our U.S friends for some back to school shopping for my daughter, and was surprised to see two copies of Falling to Earth on sale at the Borders book store near Warden Galleria Mall. As Borders is going out of business I was able to pickup a copy on sale for US$22 or $21 Canadian. It will be my reading copy so I can keep the one I ordered from Steve Hankow in pristine shape.

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Nice interview with Al Worden on WGN Radio from this afternoon today -- heard it driving into Chicago, and stuck in Lollapalooza traffic!

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Does anyone know if this book is going to be available as an audio book?

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Al is featured about eight minutes into the August 5 episode of This Week at NASA, with some nice footage of the National Air & Space Museum book signing.

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Check out Jeff Foust’s review of Al Worden’s new book "Falling To Earth" on The Space Review here.
Many perceive being a CMP as something of a consolation prize for Apollo-era astronauts: yes, you get to go to the Moon, but you get left behind in orbit while your crewmates walk on the surface. Worden writes that it was a tradeoff: yes, as lunar module pilot you got to walk on the Moon, but that position was more of "system engineer" role since it was the mission commander who was actually flying the spacecraft.

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My copy from Boggs arrived yesterday and I haven't finished reading yet, but golly, it's a great book. Definitely counting myself as a big Worden fan and if he wants to take me for a ride in a convertible, I'm all set!

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Originally posted by garymilgrom:
If I might add a small criticism - this is also the first astronaut biography that makes a big deal of the support crews
While I agree that support crews may not have had as crucial a role as the prime and backup crews, I believe they still had an important role to play and were there for a reason. Moreover, from what I've heard/read the support crews were proud of their work and proud to be of help. Maybe it wasn't as big a deal to some, but to Worden it obviously was important and a proud part of his service. He was proud to be part of a team that was working together (and I don't mean just the astronauts) to achieve something extraordinary. Frankly, I don't think we hear enough about those experiences.

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A friend got a copy of the book for me in the KSC store. He told me that three piles were there, all for the same price of 29.95 USD, with one pile carrying signed books. The signature is "Al Worden."

Now I wonder whether such signatures are original ones or autopens. Any clue?

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Al did a signing at the KSC store on, I believe, 26 July, after the Apollo 15 40th events and before heading to DC for the NASM events. Although I couldn't tell you for sure, I would imagine what you are seeing is the extra stock that he signed for them. Glad to hear a friend picked one up for you!

If I am correct, the cool thing about these books is - they are signed exactly 40 years after Al launched on Apollo 15 - and signed at the launch site...

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Just finished the book. Superb memoir. Off to write a glowing review on Amazon.

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Just ordered my signed copy from the Smithsonian store. Can't wait to read it. Hope it doesn't take too long to arrive.

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Recorded at the National Air and Space Museum at the book launch, astronaut and author Tom Jones gives his endorsement to "Falling To Earth: An Apollo 15 Astronaut's Journey To The Moon."

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posted 08-18-2011 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just ordered my signed copy from Boggs Spacebooks. I'm sure you are all aware of them? But if not the site is well worth a visit.


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