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Author Topic:   But for the Grace of God: An Autobiography of an Aviator and Astronaut (W.R. Pogue)
garymilgrom
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posted January 21, 2011 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My copy arrived in Atlanta yesterday - thanks to Boggs Spacebooks!

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posted January 21, 2011 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space4u   Click Here to Email space4u     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received my copy this week. Excellent packaging by Boggs Spacebooks per usual which was important as it was snowing a lot and mailman never thought to bring the box up to the door or garage. Book inside very wet box was perfect!

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posted January 21, 2011 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Boggs SpaceBooks:
Yes, the books are signed with one of the pens which flew on Skylab with Pogue and Bill is using the original ink which flew inside the pen!
Thanks! In Louisiana they call that "lagniappe". What a special surprise for an already great deal! I'm already enjoying the book.

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posted January 21, 2011 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Once I get some money in (a few days) I will get myself a copy.

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posted January 22, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Boggs SpaceBooks:
Yes, the books are signed with one of the pens which flew on Skylab with Pogue and Bill is using the original ink which flew inside the pen!
I would also like to add that Bill did go through an extensive personal search to get one of the Skylab Flown pens still with an original filler.

He already donated all of his personal pens to the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation for scholarship auctions. A flown pen with a new filler wasn't acceptable to him nor was a filler flown on later shuttle missions. He eventually tracked one down but was told the filler is "dead". A quick swab of the roller ball freed the 38 year old built up goo and the pen was off and writing smoothly. The pen did last for the full 1,000 book run with ink to spare.

The pen used was not up for only Skylab 4 but was launched with the lab and came down on Skylab 4. One of the duties for the last crew was to scavenge everything they could from the lab and bring it home.

Just another one of those little pieces of space trivia that can fill a brain cell that would otherwise house "useful" information.

Keep adding your experiences about receiving and reviews of "But for the Grace of God."

Fezman92
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posted January 22, 2011 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the story on how he got the pen. Interesting tidbit.

garymilgrom
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posted January 23, 2011 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garymilgrom   Click Here to Email garymilgrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a very good book. What makes it so good are two things - the writing style and the way the author concentrates on everything in his life except his time in orbit.

The writing style is extremely concise - "I did this, which resulted in that, and later I went there". This is well suited to explaining complex events, whether they be threshing hay, recovering a spinning plane or planning one's life. The writing has an immediacy that makes it seem like Bill is talking directly to the reader - there are no hints of a ghost writer cleaning up things behind the scene. At first the writing seems simple but it soon emerges as a clear and direct way to communicate stories and ideas.

And those stories shine because they talk about everything in this astronaut's life. Whether it's a kid in the depression, studying hard in school, bombing bridges in Korea, endless family moves, flying new aircraft or simply following the feeling in your gut we are given the full story of a military career leading to spaceflight. Enthusiasts will be happy that Bill's training for and time spent flying Skylab are not ignored, but they are treated as one part of his life and the book is better for this.

Finally, and because it's been mentioned here, Bill does explain why the title of the book defines his life so well. It's given in the final sentence of the book and is a terrific way to end a great story.

Gary
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posted January 25, 2011 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finished reading this today. Like the recent Bob White book, this guy has lived one hell of a life. He doesn't join NASA until page 197, and he's splashed down from Skylab by page 261. NASA has just been one small part of a very full life with some incredible flying exploits.

Here is a photo Jim Vertrees shared with me and asked to be posted here.

MCroft04
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posted January 25, 2011 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a bit over half way through the book, and this picture by Francis says it all. This is a great book!!!!

Murph
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posted January 26, 2011 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Murph   Click Here to Email Murph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finished the book last night, and must say I found it somewhat disappointing. Certainly a life of dedication and tremendous accomplishment, worth documenting, but the Skylab mission section was little longer than a magazine article. Surely, an 84 day mission would have a few more tales to tell. I would have enjoyed a longer reflection on that almost end-of-the-era spaceflight.

As always, thanks to Boggs SpaceBooks for their great packaging and customer service.

AJ
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posted January 26, 2011 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJ   Click Here to Email AJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My favorite part of the book were the stories about his childhood. There were some great, often laugh-out-loud moments. A wonderful read.

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posted January 27, 2011 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hinkler   Click Here to Email hinkler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The title of the book may well come from the last sentence in the book.
But for the Grace of God, my very brief obituary would have been written more than fifty years ago.
As for the size of the word "God", "God" is bigger than "Grace of" which is bigger than "But for the". All arranged so the words of the title sit nicely next to Mr. Pogue's shoulder in the cover photo.

The book is an excellent addition to anyone's library or book collection.

Thanks to Bill Pogue, and Don and Tamara Boggs, and others for making this book available to enthusiasts everywhere.

MCroft04
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posted January 30, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great book with lots of interesting stories! I understand the disappointment at not having more about Skylab; heck I would have been happy to hear more about Bill's flight. But this is an autobiography, and Bill states in the forward that the book was written primarily for his grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

I met Bill at the November 2010 Astronaut Scholarship Foundation Autograph and Memorabilia Show and we had a good long conservation (at the cocktail party). My impression of Bill from that conversation fits well with the how he portrays himself in the book.

Bill is a very kind, down to earth person who made the most of his God-given talents to do some pretty amazing things in his life. And he is still going. What more could one ask out of life!

Rick Mulheirn
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posted January 30, 2011 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too found Bill's Skylab portion of the book shorter than I had hoped but a very enjoyable and easy read none the less. Bill comes across as a very modest guy; a trait I have seen in many of the Apollo astronauts.

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posted February 01, 2011 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just ordered mine. Can't wait to get it

Fezman92
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posted February 07, 2011 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fezman92   Click Here to Email Fezman92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
#282 arrived today!

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posted February 08, 2011 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dss65   Click Here to Email dss65     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently finished my copy (#191) and wanted to add a few comments to this string. As usual, I find that the comments of those who have posted before me are accurate and give the potential reader a very good idea of what to expect.

My parents' families both come from the rural midwest, and Pogue's philosophy and writing style remind me a lot of them and their siblings. As I read his story, I kept thinking about how much he represented everything that is right about America's Heartland.

I, as others have noted, particularly enjoyed the stories of Pogue's childhood and often laughed out loud (sometimes to my wife's distraction). It was arguably my favorite part of the book. However, his firsthand accounts of missions over Korea and flying with the Thunderbirds also made for fascinating reading, especially given that they included many close calls.

I actually found Pogue's passages about Skylab (especially when including his references to it in the portions of the book covering life after Skylab) to be more satisfying than I had expected. I'm certain, however, that my expectations for this had been set rather low by some of the postings in this string.

Might I recommend that people who want to get a full, satisying serving of Skylab read "Homesteading Space" by David Hitt, Owen Garriott, and Joe Kerwin? After that, adding Pogue's experiences is kind of like icing on the cake. At least it was for me.

I believe that Pogue met his objectives in writing this book, and I recommend it to all who enjoy autobiographies of astronauts and aviators. I enjoyed it.

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Don

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posted February 11, 2011 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just finished reading #328, and because I am one of those who enquired in an early thread whether this would be a religious book, I feel I should add a postscript.

It is not a religious book, although it is clear that Pogue has strong religious beliefs. As Gary Milgrom noted in his earlier post in this thread, the title does derive from the last line of the book, in an expression of amazement, achievement and thanks that he has lived a long, fascinating and often dangerous life, during which he could have been killed at many times.

Initially, I found the long explanatory captions to the photos a bit distracting and annoying, but after finishing the book I went back and re-read them (and in doing so, saw them in a new light), so I am glad these were included. Lots of photos, which is always a good thing in an autobiography.

At first I found the writing style hard to grasp, but it is best remembered that Pogue has written this book for his grandchildren, so the book is deliberately a traverse through his many experiences. Without that in the back of your mind, some anecdotes might seem a bit pointless (with no disrespect intended).

The Skylab section is disappointingly short; conversely the section dealing with his mid-1970s trip through Nepal, India etc with Stu Roosa is disproportionately long and sometimes repetitive, so in some respects I think the right balance hasn't quite been struck between "chapters" in Pogue's life. To me, anyway.

You get the impression Pogue is most proud of his days with the Thunderbirds (1955-7), and this is a truly interesting part of the book.

Throughout, he gives a sense of the dangers he often faced, and how he was lucky to have survived some moments.

He deals sensitively with his divorce and the death of his first wife in 2009, unlike other astronaut bios (no, I won't mention names) where sections about the "new wife" border on being disrespectful to the first wife who lived the astronaut years with the author, and which sometimes make the reader squirm uncomfortably.

Not my favourite astronaut bio of all time (to me, everybody has been attempting catch-up with Collins after Carrying the Fire in '74), but it was certainly an enjoyable book and well worth reading. I am glad I bought it, and the autographed copy will sit proudly amongst my collection.

Happy reading, all.

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posted April 04, 2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Currently unsigned copies of "But for the Grace of God" are beginning to become available at on-line book sellers like Barnes & Noble and Amazon. B&N is asking $24.09 and Amazon has it listed at $24.95.

Currently hardback and e-format copies are not available. Bill is planning on attending the Hall of Fame Induction at Kennedy in May. I currently have no word if he will be available outside of the Induction Ceremony and Formal Dinner.

Don and Tamara at Boggs Space Books still have a good but dwindling stash of the S/N Limited Edition. Bill will most likely also add the signed version to his web address at some point soon.

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posted August 03, 2011 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Pogue will be in St. Louis, MO, August 25th promoting his book. The event will be held at The Missouri Athletic Club M.A.C., 405 Washington Ave, downtown St. Louis, 63102. This is a live on air one hour radio broadcast for the KMOX/Fontbonne University Book Club. The event is free and open to the public but reservations are required to attend. They can be obtained by emailing cwbrennan@cbs.com with number and names of those attending and telephone contact number and return e-mail address. Col. Pogue’s segment begins 9:00am. Plenty of books will be available for purchase and Col. Pogue will sign them following the event.

A second event has been added for the evening of August 25th at the headquarters of the St. Louis County Library. Location is 1640 S. Lindberg Blvd, St. Louis, MO 63131. Robert has posted the links to both events on the Astronaut Sightings page. I hope to see some cS members there.


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