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andrex
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posted 04-28-2005 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just finished reading Norman Mailer's "Of a Fire on the Moon" (Little, Brown and Co., 1970). Just wondering what other readers thought of it?

Although not overly heavy on tech detail, it certainly gave me a feel of the time, albeit through one strange man's eyes.

randy
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posted 04-28-2005 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for randy   Click Here to Email randy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought it was a good book. Certainly not one of the best I've read on the subject, but a good one never the less.

FFrench
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posted 04-29-2005 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The style of the book is very much of its time, and Mailer keeps it very much focused on himself — but I think it captures very well how the mood of the times was increasingly divorced from NASA's engineering-oriented focus to carrying out their primary goals.

Some interesting insights into how the Apollo 11 crew came across to outsiders at the time too. It captures a public disconnection that helps explain why Apollo slipped off the radar of public interest.

DChudwin
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posted 04-30-2005 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know for a fact that Mailer did on-the-scenes research before the Apollo 11 launch because I was on the same press tour bus with him at the Cape before Apollo 11

The book is a good example of the "new journalism" evolving at that time.

Tykeanaut
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posted 10-05-2014 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This book has passed me by up until now as I've just ordered a copy and look forward to reading it.

hermit
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posted 10-05-2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hermit   Click Here to Email hermit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to read it several time way back when, but never got very far.

Blackarrow
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posted 10-05-2014 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much of the original book is included in the "Moonfire" illustrated "coffee-table" version? The dust-jacket says the original book is "excerpted" but does "Moonfire" allow a proper assessment of "A Fire on the Moon"?

GoesTo11
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posted 10-05-2014 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Blackarrow:
Does "Moonfire" allow a proper assessment of "A Fire on the Moon"?
Not really. I've read the original book, and I own Moonfire, but I can't say specifically how much of Mailer's text was republished. Taschen's editors did a fine job of selecting the most artful and incisive portions of Mailer's narrative while mostly paring the tangential and self-indulgent.

I've posted here before that Of a Fire on the Moon is a *challenging* read, freighted with Mailer's egotism and ideological baggage, as well as the stylistic excesses of what was then "New Journalism."

I also believe it's worth the slog: Mailer was undeniably a compelling prose artist and a keen observer. His recounting of Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins' pre-launch press conference, and his impressions of the three men's personalities, are especially piercing. And you will not find a more powerful, evocative, and visceral eyewitness account of the launch of Apollo 11 anywhere else in print.

canyon42
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posted 10-05-2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canyon42   Click Here to Email canyon42     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I despised the book when I read it in my late teens, and found it no better a couple of decades later. If you want a pseudo-account of Apollo through the filter of someone ridiculously full of himself, have at it. I won't ever bother again...

J.L
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posted 10-05-2014 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J.L   Click Here to Email J.L     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read it around 1980... found it to be a pretty good read.

GoesTo11
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posted 11-28-2014 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a recent re-release that I don't believe has been previously noted here.

Tykeanaut
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posted 02-02-2015 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've finally been able to pick this book up and start reading it. I'm on about page 100 and have to say I'm finding it a struggle due to the pretentious style.

Fra Mauro
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posted 02-02-2015 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fra Mauro   Click Here to Email Fra Mauro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a heavy book — a novelist writing history.

Tykeanaut
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posted 02-03-2015 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I give up. Too much "waffle".

David C
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posted 02-03-2015 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't blame you.

Tykeanaut
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posted 02-22-2015 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Against my better judgement I picked it up again and sort of speed-read through it, picking out the interesting bits.

Towards the end (page 367) I was interested to see this quote:

There were even ladies wearing red-white-and-blue Ed White scarves (autographed by every astronaut) which were sold by astronauts' wives to make money for the 'Ed White Memorial Fund.'
I wonder if any of those scarves still exist anywhere?

Larry McGlynn
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posted 02-22-2015 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have one in the collection. I picked it up from a Heritage after auction sale.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-22-2015 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were reportedly 200 of the scarves produced, and as Larry said, they still pop up for sale from time to time. Here is an example (ex Jack Lousma):

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