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Lunarlock
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posted 06-05-2008 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunarlock   Click Here to Email Lunarlock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a while now I have been trying to find a way to have a 10x8 photo of Mr Aldrin on the moon personalised and signed for me by the man himself. My preference is for him to sign my own photo rather than one provided by him or anyone else.

As I live in the UK and was unable to attend Aldrin's last Autographica appearance I am not sure as to the best way to go about doing this.

I have tried writing to the dealers listed on the Buzz Aldrin website and also to Aldrin directly via the same website but all to no avail.

I am now thinking of using the address listed here on cS (i.e. the c/o Assante address). Does anyone know if this address remains valid for an autograph request such as mine?

Furthermore, does anyone know what his current signing and inscription fees are?

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posted 10-11-2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what address to use for Aldrin these days, but I have heard he now requests a $350 base fee for signatures sent to him. You might want to write first for details before sending anything for signing.

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posted 10-15-2008 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoKepler   Click Here to Email JoKepler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had very pleasant experiences with Buzz at personal appearances (and book signings) over the years. With the possible exceptions of Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt, Buzz has been as accommodating in person as any of the pioneering (pre-STS) astronauts I have met. He provided autographs and gladly posed for photographs at events I have attended.

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posted 10-15-2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kurt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too have met Buzz on many occasions over the years. I've always found him to be "all business."

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posted 10-15-2008 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for generallou   Click Here to Email generallou     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I went the cheap route and got two signatures: one in a book the other on the COA for the book! Just went to Easton Press and bought the spaceflight book he signed!

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posted 10-16-2008 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Zimmer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's a good route for getting a bargain signature that you can feel confident about.

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posted 01-24-2009 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flying Dutchman   Click Here to Email Flying Dutchman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone tell me if and/or when Buzz Aldrin stopped signing through the mail?

Can anyone tell me when he started his website and thus started to sell through autograph organisations?

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posted 01-25-2009 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aldrin continues to sign for his fee through the mail.

He also works with several autograph dealers, including those listed on his website but others as well (Farthest Reaches, for example).

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posted 01-25-2009 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flying Dutchman   Click Here to Email Flying Dutchman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I meant when did he stop signing for free. Sorry my mistake. But when did he start his website?

I wrote him in 1984 directly and received my personalised WSS photo. But I was wondering when did he stop doing so and started a website and started to ask a fee?

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posted 02-09-2009 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BuzzAldrin.com first came online in 1996, in support of the release of "Encounter With Tiber". At the time, he was still signing for free, as I recall his signing autographs for literally hundreds of people at the National Space Society's Race for Space, though he also attended his first space show that year (organized by The Space Source, then AVD, in College Park, Maryland).

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posted 02-18-2009 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for medaris   Click Here to Email medaris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz has signed a great many books over the years. It's still possible to find signed books fairly cheaply, even aside from the Easton Press book. The last second hand book I obtained that was signed by Buzz cost about 20% of his current base signing fee.

DSeuss5490
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posted 02-18-2009 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DSeuss5490   Click Here to Email DSeuss5490     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And that children's book he put out a few years ago was available, signed, for just $15.

David Bryant
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posted 02-19-2009 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Bryant   Click Here to Email David Bryant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always thought that signed books are the best value in autographs! You can read the book, display it on a shelf, pass it round without worry... And, on release, particularly, they tend to be inexpensive.

As for Buzz: if you shop around, you can get an authentic signature in either of his 'interesting' novels for $30: less than a tenth of his base fee!

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posted 02-20-2009 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff   Click Here to Email Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same for signed DVDs or CDs.

I prefer them actually, yes, you can watch the dvd and listen to the cd and get added satisfaction from them.

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posted 02-21-2009 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilbasso   Click Here to Email ilbasso     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aldrin's interpretation at Spacefest 2009 of "multi-signed Apollo 11" items was different than what I thought was common sense.

Since he was charging $200 more for a multi-signed item, I went to his booth first to get him to be the first to sign my five items. He explained that multi-signed meant that he would charge the extra $200 per item for any item that COULD be signed by more than one member of the crew, whether it was actually signed by them or not at that time. I thought that was incredible but I didn't want to stand there and make a federal case out of it, but he put me $1K over budget before I even went to my second booth!

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posted 02-21-2009 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, astronauts have the right to charge whatever people are willing to pay. But what Aldrin has done at this event goes beyond that: saying he has one fee for most things and a higher fee for multi-signED items, then suddenly charging that higher fee for NON-multi-signed items that MIGHT LATER be signed by someone else.

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posted 02-21-2009 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always thought multi-signed fees were a bit ridiculous, charging extra to those admirers who had undertaken the work (and expense) to collect other signatures on an item first. But to charge extra because an item might have other signatures added to it someday is beyond ridiculous. Anybody who was already willing to pay his $350 base fee has already proven themselves to be an admirer (since no dealer would pay that rate). To then attempt to extract even more money from fans for "what if" items is without precedent. I feel sorry for any fans of Buzz who were treated like this. Hopefully some people had the courage to walk away from his table after being told the fee.

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posted 02-21-2009 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jut2y   Click Here to Email jut2y     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A good friend took an 8x10 multi-signed moon litho of mine to the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation's show last November with a view to getting some extra signatures.

Unfortunatly for me Buzz was one of the signatures I needed and he charged $600. This was the same fee he was charging for an Apollo 11 completion.

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posted 02-21-2009 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm amazed by the idea of charging a multi-signABLE fee.

I would also strongly contest the idea that Buzz's signature on multi-signed items adds anything more than the value of his base fee (and here I'm talking more $150-250 than $350) to the overall item.

This applies to Apollo 11 crew items as well as general mixed items. Compare the prices of Armstrong-only sigs on RR and those for crew items and you won't find a great deal of difference. In many cases they actually fetch LESS than uninscribed Armstrong WSS portraits. Where there is a positive difference in values it's definitely not of the order of the combined fees of Collins and Aldrin even without any extra completion fees.

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posted 02-22-2009 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for poofacio   Click Here to Email poofacio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does everybody keep moaning about Buzz'z prices.

The consensus seems to be that Armstrong has every right NOT to sign (I concur with that) so hasn't Buzz got the right to sign for free, not sign, or charge what he likes?

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posted 02-22-2009 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the average collector had unlimited funds then it might not be so much of a problem... But MOST of us are collecting on a budget.

Of course he can charge what he wants. But if you are attending these shows and you notice how his fees have rocketed it is bound to p*ss you off. Spacefest 2007 base fee $175. Spacefest 2009 base fee $350 (but with the added caveat that he can apply an additional $200 to any Apollo item).

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posted 02-22-2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poofacio   Click Here to Email poofacio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I quite agree, I was merely pointing out that at least he does sign whereas Armstrong won't for any money but seems to attract few moans.

Oh, and being a mortgage broker I am a little light on funds as well!

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posted 02-22-2009 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I paid no notice to the fees for Spacefest as I did not attend. But I presume all those that did knew the fees in advance and were prepared to pay them.

The tone of the thread currently was set not by the fees but rather by the fact the "goal posts" were moved mid show... and with the manner with which they were moved.

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posted 02-22-2009 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Rick is correct, and were it possible to advertise in advance that the partial completion fee was going to apply, then perhaps some of the objections could have been avoided.

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posted 02-23-2009 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The main item I wanted to get signed was the Paul Calle print of a footprint on the Moon. At SpaceFest, there was one astronaut from each of the landing missions (Aldrin 11, Bean 12, Mitchell 14, Scott 15, Duke 16 and Cernan 17). My plan was to get the print signed by each.

All of the moonwalkers except Aldrin charged me their base fees and added their missions for free,

Aldrin's assistant told me that it would be $50 to add "Apollo 11" and another $100 for a mutli-signed item. I protested to no avail. In the end I decided to forgo the mission inscriptio, but pay the remaining $450 because the print is a unique item. However, I will never give a cent to Aldrin again. He is fleecing collectors, but the market will eventually work since items signed by him fetch a lot less than his $350 base fee.

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I was at Spacefest and I was pretty disappointed in everything I heard/saw regarding Buzz Aldrin. A lot of people admire the guy (or at least used to) and the Spacefest experience definitely had the air of a business deal for Buzz. I feel bad for the people who were charged way more than is acceptable (especially regarding the incomplete completions!), but I agree with those who have said that the answer is to simply not pay it.

I went into Spacefest knowing I couldn't afford Buzz's fees, period, and I was okay with that. Now I'm glad it wasn't even an option for me. I would rather get to meet and get autographs from a lot of other astronauts, rather than just Buzz. It was especially disappointing to realize that he upped the "per word" fee at the show, because the sign was clearly changed from $30 to $50. Either way, I think it's unfair.

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posted 02-23-2009 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it safe to say, the "Buzz experience" has now been well covered and it is time to move on.

That said, might I suggest that the organisers of any future events nail down the fees in advance and ask the attending astronauts to stick to them?

It is not rocket science. And it casts something of a shadow over what was otherwise an excellent event; a shadow not of the organisers making.

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posted 02-24-2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have a contract that specifies Buzz' charges at Spacefest.

We need names of:

  • People who were actually charged for a personalization (i.e. to Tom and Nancy Driscoll);

  • People who were actually charged a $550 multi-signed completion fee for an Apollo 11 item with only one signature;
Please let me know: kim@novaspace.com

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posted 03-13-2009 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The two items Buzz got to sign for me he did for free, while I met him prior to the Christie's auction in 2001. He signed "Return", and also his famous A11 standing picture right in the auction catalog. A fine memory, and a fine memento!

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posted 04-29-2009 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flight_plan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz Aldrin signed "Reaching for the Moon" book at Books of Wonder in New York in 2005 and the shop sold them on eBay at £8 each plus P&P, saying they were not going to make a profit on them.

For Buzz to allow them to do that or even if he charged a lot and they sold at a loss sound pretty good to me. Trouble is these books fetch very little at re-auction and I cant see why?

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posted 04-29-2009 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz signed many copies of this book when it was released in 2005... most often freely (or at least for nothing extra beyond the price of the book itself). So signed copies of the book are not particularly rare. Also, I think the fact that it's a children's book somewhat reduces it's collectability among adults. Most adult collectors would prefer a signed copy of one of his two autobiographies (or three, if you count the one that is soon-to-be-released).

I generally see these books selling for about $60 on the market today... a fair bit better than the $16 they often sold for in 2005.

Also, I would argue that Buzz's current signing fee of $350-600+ is not indicative of the value of his signature on the secondary market. Value is most often determined by the desirability of the item that has been signed. Buzz-signed books usually seem to fare rather poorly against signed photos, for instance.

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posted 04-29-2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flight_plan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do have a copy but a handshake with these men would mean more to me, but that's just my opinion.

I suppose if you add up all the autographs Buzz has done over the last 40 years plus, I wonder how rare his actually is?

If he asked me to pay £200 and I felt like I was on a conveyor belt, I would not enjoy parting with that sort of money. I quite like Armstrong's take on it. He was just doing a job, nothing more or less (great though it was) and so why sign anything. He could be/is rich without ever signing anything and so could/is Buzz. They all made out how hard up they were as astronauts but the wage and perks they were paid in the 60's was fantastic compared to what my dad was earning as a skilled man. Some of them just seem a tad greedy or making up for so called lost time.

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Originally posted by flight_plan:
I suppose if you add up all the autographs Buzz has done over the last 40 years plus, I wonder how rare his actually is?

Not rare at all. But then again, neither is Neil Armstrong's autograph. The value we attach to these autographs on the marketplace is more a matter of supply and demand, not a judgement of rarity. Neil signed lots of stuff over the years...literally thousands of items...but there are thousands of people who also want his autograph. Hence the large supply of his autograph is eclipsed by the even larger demand.

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If he asked me to pay £200 and I felt like I was on a conveyor belt, I would not enjoy parting with that sort of money.

Sadly, I have been to two autograph shows and that's kind of how it goes with certain guests. But most guests are generous with their time and are happy to chat and pose for a photo. Also, most autograph shows offer events like banquets and receptions that allow you to meet the astronauts without paying for a signature. You often get more face-to-face time at these sorts of events than you do at a signing.

If you do attend a signing, you often get a better interaction with a guest when you get your item signed after the line has gotten much shorter. If the line is long, the guest and their handler are more likely to try to keep things moving quickly.

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posted 05-04-2009 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary   Click Here to Email Gary     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Buzz Aldrin signed some moon surface lithos for me while he was here in Cape Canaveral this weekend for the Astronaut Hall of Fame Inductions. I was thrilled to add these lithos to my personal collection. He was a gentleman and very professional and I appreciate the time he took to do this for me it was an honor.

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Where were you when you managed to get Buzz Aldrin to sign for you? I had my photo taken with him which was great, but as he is known not to sign for anyone and I had already heard him refuse some other requests I didn't ask! You sound as if you got him to sign more than one!? Unbelievable!

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During the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo launches my father worked with the astronauts. When I showed Buzz an early black and white NASA photo of my father receiving an award he recognized him immediately. At that point he was very generous and polite to sign my memorabilia. In the past this has also gotten me autographs from John Young. I am very grateful when they sign my items.

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posted 06-02-2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJ   Click Here to Email AJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not to go too off topic, but your dad must have some great stories!

I think it's really nice that Buzz has been so generous. I think sometimes we get caught up in the craziness of signings and fees that we forget the people at the heart of it all.

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The NASA team members that placed the astronauts on the moon are some of the most amazing and talented people around. Through out my life I have met many of them and they are remarkable. My father worked with the early astronauts and would travel around the US with them. He could tell you which ones were great to be with and some who were not very likeable. He would often have dinner with them on these trips.

On the rare occassions when I ask for a astronaut's signature I always make it clear that this is for my personal collection to pass on to my children and not for eBay. When Buzz signed my lithos it was more for appreciation than business and he was very relaxed and personable. I believe this is why he signed all that I had. Some astronauts still remember the folks that worked hard to get them safely home.

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Has anyone tried getting Buzz to sign other items like a photo at one of his book signings? If I were to go through his line with one of his books in hand and ask for my signature on a photograph instead of my book, would he do that?

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posted 06-17-2009 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xlsteve   Click Here to Email xlsteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt it. With the crowds that Buzz is likely to draw, if people started bringing other things to sign (even copies of other books by Buzz), it would be chaos. Very few book signings I have been to allow you to have anything other than the book on sale signed. On top of that, you'd essentially be getting Buzz's signature on your photo for the price of the book, and given his fees at signings that's not going to happen.

I would check with the venue where he's appearing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the signing limited to his book, with no other memorabilia allowed, nor posed photos.


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