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JasonB
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posted 01-20-2004 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did SpaceShots screw over some astronauts or do something bad? I don't know much about the history of the company that made them or why they went out of business, but it seems strange that Eugene Cernan and Michael Collins would put stipulations that specifically prohibit signing them.

Just wondering, as a "disturbed" Space Shots collector.

ColinBurgess
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posted 01-20-2004 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without going into specifics, the only son of a highly respected astronaut who lost his life before the moon landings was involved in the production of these cards, and the monies raised allegedly did not go where they were intended to go. I believe the term persona non grata has been applied.

JasonB
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posted 01-20-2004 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. I had seen that money was supposed to be donated, and thought it might have something to do with that, but didn't want to say anything since I knew nothing about it. That's too bad.

Dennis Beatty
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posted 01-20-2004 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis Beatty   Click Here to Email Dennis Beatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure why everyone is speaking in such vague terms. Myself, being one of the customers who was ripped off, am not afraid to say that it was Ed White III, who took a good idea and ran it into the ground.

John K. Rochester
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posted 01-20-2004 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why then would James Lovell lend his autographs to be used as inserts with specific packages of the cards... did all this come to light after the fact? Inquiring minds want to know the whole story.

Spacefest
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posted 03-15-2010 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovell also loaned him a LOT of money. I believe other astronauts did also, but "Eddie" never made an effort to repay. He has used his father's reputation and goodwill to coax other astronauts into helping him in his schemes. Ed's best friend, Jim McDivitt just rolls his eyes at the mention of his name.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 03-15-2010 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As one of Eddie's first distributors when he started the space card series as Space Ventures, Inc., in Texas, 1989, it was a great idea-concept, when first presented to me by Eddie in my home during meetings in 1988-89 that included a space trivia contest, limited edition signed cards, and autographed promo sheets. Three series of cards were produced by White in 1990-92 with the fourth, and last of the uncompleted 5-series, in two different issues of special 3-D space cards in 1993. At first, many astronaut pioneers got onboard with the new project, including three moonwalkers, Lovell and his son, along with several Russian cosmonauts. But everything fell apart after '93.

cfreeze79
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posted 09-16-2015 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cfreeze79   Click Here to Email cfreeze79     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this posted on Wikipedia.

Interesting reading... Anyone have anything to add/correct?

MarylandSpace
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posted 09-16-2015 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarylandSpace   Click Here to Email MarylandSpace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for linking us to "The Rest of the Story" as one late Chicagoan might say.

p51
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posted 09-16-2015 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spacefest:
Lovell also loaned him a LOT of money. I believe other astronauts did also, but "Eddie" never made an effort to repay. He has used his father's reputation and goodwill to coax other astronauts into helping him in his schemes.
Man, that's messed up.

Wehaveliftoff
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posted 09-19-2015 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wehaveliftoff   Click Here to Email Wehaveliftoff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other astronaut "bubble gum" cards, are there refusals/acceptances of getting these signed?

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