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Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-03-2008 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Evergreen Aviation & Space Museum release
Evergreen Space Museum Launches June 6

Oregon's largest space facility will compliment the home of the "Spruce Goose" and IMAX 3D Theater

The Evergreen Aviation Museum is famous for the world's largest wooden flying boat, the Howard Hughes' Spruce Goose, and the world's fastest aircraft ever built, the SR-71 Blackbird, but soon visitors will also enjoy another world class addition on June 6, 2008 - a new space facility.

Evergreen teamed with Hoffman Construction of Portland, Ore. and began construction of the new Space Museum in late September 2006. The 120,000 square foot facility will compliment the museum campus and reflect the same design as the home of the famous Spruce Goose.

The new museum will feature artifacts the facility has already acquired including the Titan II SLV missile, the Titan IV SLV missile, the Willamette Meteorite, the replica Lunar Module, the replica Lunar Rover and the Russian Photon Space Capsule.

The new facility also boasts a 65,000 square foot space gallery that will include dozens of authentic space artifacts, some of which are in the museum's permanent collection and others that will be loaned to the museum by he Kansas Cosmosphere and National Air & Space Museum. Major exhibits will include an X-15, a Redstone Rocket, Gemini capsule, Apollo capsule, Saturn Rocket, space food and a collection of space suits. Historic artifacts, full-scale replicas of spacecraft and interactive exhibits and simulators will all be used to tell the story of spaceflight. The centerpiece of the new facility will be a Titan II SLV missile. With this new exhibit, guests will be able to participate in a hands-on missile launch experience. The museum also plans to host a series of educational programs and space camps.

In addition to the exhibits, the Space Museum will feature visitor amenities including: An aviation and space themed playground, The Right Stuff Gift Store, The Cosmo Cafe, The Tasting Station Wine Bar, The Milky Way ice cream shop and the Sweet Space treat stop.

The new Space Museum will also become the home of McMinnville High School's Engineering and Science Academy (EASA) in September 2008. The Academy will be home to local students who will spend half day increments in labs and classes in the museum's new classroom facility.

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posted 06-03-2008 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercsim   Click Here to Email mercsim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't see it mentioned but Mercury Capsule #10 will also be there. It was at the Cosmosphere for many years and was moved last year when Liberty Bell finally got home. It never flew but it is pretty complete...

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posted 06-04-2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious about the X-15. Since the two survivors are at the National Air and Space Museum and the Air Force Museum - is it a new replica?

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posted 06-04-2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AFGAS   Click Here to Email AFGAS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The X-15 is a fabrication - used to be at Huntsville a while ago.

The Field Guide would also be pleased to get pictures of these new exhibits!

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posted 06-25-2008 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! Mercury Spacecraft #10 was used as a static test article and did not fly (Project Mercury: a chronology, page 212).

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So, yesterday I took a trip to visit the Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum in McMinnville, Oregon and I have a blast. The museum is broken into 3 parts (air museum, space museum, and IMAX) and I bought passes to the whole thing because I didn't know when I would be able to come back.

The air museum was amazing, they had a great collection highlighted by the H-4 Spruce Goose. I would greatly advise anyone who loves aircraft and is in the area to stop by and check it out as it is an amazing museum. Here is a pic, but there is a lot of stuff on the other side of the Spruce Goose.

The space museum was nice, but a much newer attraction and still has quite a room to grow. They have a few nice things in there... but they need to add more. The biggest highlight in my eyes was unflown #10 Mercury capsule with retro rocket pack. It was really the only authentic manned space vechile at the museum. They had Jim McDivitt's flight suit from Gemini-IV which was cool... but most everything else were replicas. The had replicas of a Gemini capsule, Apollo capsule, LEM, Lunar Rover, etc.

In my eyes, the Mercury capsule is the highlight. They also have an SR-71 Blackbird and a replica X-15.

They also have a couple rockets on display including a V2, Redstone, and Titan.

My honest opinion of the whole experience is the air museum is 100% worth seeing and worth the cost of admission. I liked the space museum, but they really don't have a whole lot yet. If you're on a tight budget, the space museum isn't worth visiting... but the air museum is.

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Yeah, but the space museum carries my new space music CD... what more could you want?!

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To comment on E2M Lem Man's question about the X-15, this is a full size mock up built by North American for wind tunnel work. It is currently on loan to Evergreen from the Kansas Cosmosphere.

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Stewart W. Bailey
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posted 01-22-2009 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lou Chinal   Click Here to Email Lou Chinal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the New York 1964-65 Worlds Fair they had a full sized mock-up of an X-15. Neil Armstrong painted his name on it. I wonder if it's the same one?

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posted 01-22-2009 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2M Lem Man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mr. Bailey, respectfully, there is a major chance that you are incorrect. I have spoken to some of the old NAA team here in Downey and none remember a full size X-15 built just for wind tunnel work. They feel that there were small scale models built for the wind tunnels but nothing that large.

I believe they are correct, as Scott Crossfield would not have had the landing issues he had on the first flight if it had been tested in a tunnel.

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You may be correct. The only information I have on the mock-up is that which was given to us by the Cosmosphere, being as it is really their artifact. We just have it on loan.

As for the replica signed by Neil Armstrong, I'm guessing that this one is not it, because during the restoration process, our volunteers found nothing like that on it. However, during the opening ceremonies for the new Space Building, we had Joe Engle sign it just below the canopy with a white paint marker. So... it has at least one authentic signature on it.

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I have found a few different references to a full scale engineering model being produced by North American in December 1956. Perhaps it wasn't a wind tunnel model but used for other purposes?

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I have seen a few cases where 'engineering model' was interpreted as 'wind-tunnel model' so I would not be surprised if this was so. Remember too that the folks at the Cosmosphere did an awesome job in bringing this artifact to the excellent condition it is in today. So we can't base its past history on the way it looks now.

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Mr Bailey, can you confirm whose pressure suit that actually is? It doesn't look like the one McDivitt wore on GIV and looks to me more like an EVA suit. The covers on the zipper and pressure gauge are indicative of an EVA suit, to see the difference you could view a photo of McDivitt and White on the carrier after recovery. As it is my understanding that White's original suit is on the mannequin at the Smithsonian, it may be a training suit of White's perhaps, though there is no name tag or NASA meatball present, which is a bit odd. I am just curious as to its origin.

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Both White's and McDivitt's suits (and their display mannequins) were removed Gemini IV within the last couple of years at the National Air and Space Museum.

Here is McDivitt's suit in the Garber facility vault in March 2008:

Though White's suit as he wore during the EVA had both NASA meatball and name tag patches, there is a NASA photo of him wearing a suit missing both.

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posted 01-23-2009 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for golddog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could very well be that training suit then. Thank you for the reply Mr. Pearlman.

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On the X-15s:
  • Number 1: 66670 is at the Smithsonian,
  • 2: 66671 is at the Air Force Museum It is X-15A-2 built longer with drop tanks.
  • 3: 66672 crashed with Mike Adams aboard.
The original mockup was later used for P.R. and the movie "X-15". It was restored for "The Right Stuff" but never used. It is at the Pima Museum disguised as the X-15A-2.

The mockup of #3 at Edwards was built by Milt Thompson for the base. (Sources: Jenkins' and Landis' X-15 books)

I saw the Evergreen mockup in Kansas a few years ago - it is very detailed. That said there is a missing mockup that was at Huntsville Space Camp in the 70s? Very Curious!

Robert Pearlman
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The X-15 in the Evergreen Museum, formerly in Kansas, is the same mockup that was in Alabama, per A Field Guide to American Spacecraft.

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