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Topic: Glennon Kingsley, Apollo LTA-8 crew member
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JAG1969
New Member Posts: 2
From: Tulsa, OK, United States
Registered: Jan 2024
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posted 01-22-2024 07:38 PM
   
A few days ago, I purchased the West Point full dress gray coat and India White coat belonging to Glennon Kingsley. These are named coats from the cadet uniform shop. I plan to place the gray coat in a display case with the red sash, cross belt, and two photographs, one of him from West Point wearing the coat and one from the LTA-8 program in a spacesuit. The only photos I have been able to come across are the ones listed on this site with Kingsley and Gagliano. I am also planning on placing a plaque in the display case. I will post photographs once I receive the coats. Ice caused weather delays with delivery. Any changes or additions are appreciated. Glennon M. Kingsley II
01/21/1931 – 01/04/2011
United States Military Academy - June 3, 1952
Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation
Test Pilot/Astronaut
Apollo LTA-8 (Lunar Module Test Article) Thermal Vacuum Chamber Test #3
Space Environment Simulation Laboratory, Building 32
Manned Spacecraft Center Houston, TX - May 31, 1968
NASA Silver Snoopy Award - June 6, 1968 |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 51759
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-22-2024 08:22 PM
Kingsley was not an astronaut so it would be in appropriate to list him as such on the plaque. You could list him as a crew member test subject. |
onesmallstep
Member Posts: 1435
From: Staten Island, New York USA
Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 01-23-2024 08:41 AM
One of Kingsley's fellow Grumman test pilots, Scott MacLeod, worked closely with CBS and Walter Cronkite during the network's Apollo moon landing coverage from 1969-72. MacLeod, appearing from the Grumman plant at Bethpage, Long Island, would be wearing an Apollo suit and could be seen reenacting things such as getting out of the LM; walking on a simulated lunar surface; and for Apollo 15 making a 'stand up EVA' as was done by Dave Scott (no live TV coverage was available to show it). Cronkite referred to MacLeod as a 'test astronaut,' although Grumman referred to MacLeod and others like him 'lunar module consultant pilots.' He died aged 95 in 2021; see the cS article here from Aug. 16, 2021 for more on his Navy and Grumman career. |
Jim Behling
Member Posts: 1862
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 01-23-2024 01:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
You could list him as a crew member test subject.
There are others that have been "crew member test subjects" throughout all human programs. Does participating in vacuum tests give any cachet to a person or is this a case of "beauty is in the eye of beholder"? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 51759
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-23-2024 05:03 PM
There are only a handful of key ground tests that were treated as almost full up missions and so yes, they deserve to be highlighted. LTA-8 and 2-TV1, SMEAT and the SMD series have earned their place in the history books. |
Jim Behling
Member Posts: 1862
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted 01-23-2024 09:55 PM
Place in history books is one thing and I agree. But I don't think their personal affects are worthy of collecting, but to each his own. |
perineau
Member Posts: 394
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 01-24-2024 01:33 AM
Question: What was the SMD series?
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 51759
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-24-2024 09:43 AM
The Spacelab Mission Development tests were a series of simulations that tested the logistics and management procedures for life sciences experiments to be flown aboard the space shuttle-launched laboratory. The SMD III crew of Bill Thornton, Bill Williams and Carter Alexander conducted a week-long ground mission in 1977. |
perineau
Member Posts: 394
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 01-24-2024 11:45 AM
OK, thanks. |
Philip
Member Posts: 6245
From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 01-25-2024 02:47 AM
Robert, what about January 1976, Life Science Spacelab Simulation by Dr Charles Sawin, Dr Robert Clark and Dr Story Musgrave! |
perineau
Member Posts: 394
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 01-25-2024 06:10 AM
I read that the above was the 2nd SMD test. What was the first and who was involved? |
Chuckster01
Member Posts: 1125
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 01-25-2024 08:29 PM
Scott MacLeod was a friend and we spoke often of his adventures with Grumman and NASA. Scott told me his title was Grumman "Chief Test Astronaut." I just assumed this was correct. Scott was Glennon Kingsley's supervisor as I helped sell the collection of Scott and the estate of Glennon Kingsley and there are many correspondence between the two. All of Glennon's Grumman business cards said "Consulting Test Pilot" and I still have several in my possession. Both men had a great career with the space program and I have many mementos from Scott that adorn my home. |
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