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Spacefest
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posted 07-22-2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for such short notice, but Col. Borman is taking a side trip from a visit to Phoenix to come down here and do a signing.

This will actually happen before the Lovell signing at the end of August, so our hard deadline is August 12.

Please read the ordering instructions carefully, and fill out and sign the order form. Calls or emails may not be answered in time.

This may be Col. Borman's last signing, or at least one of his last. 2010 was his prior signing here.

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posted 07-22-2013 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mode1charlie   Click Here to Email mode1charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great news!

garyd2831
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posted 07-22-2013 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOLY SMOKES!!!! I was just getting ready to call and ask I could send some items in for a just in case situation because of my upcoming deployment. This is GREAT NEWS!!! YEAH

stsmithva
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posted 07-22-2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent news. I sent three things in for him to sign in 2010, but I've found another three things since then I'd like him to sign.

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posted 07-22-2013 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RockyMnWay   Click Here to Email RockyMnWay     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is everyone getting signed? I already purchased a Borman previously signed 16x20 "Earthrise" photo in which I am having Lovell sign in August and getting it framed.

I am trying to decide on what to have Borman sign now. I'm leaning toward an 8x10 photo of one of the Gemini 7 "Golden Ribbons" or "Rendezvous".

Or maybe The Apollo 8 on launch pad at dawn to go with the "Earthrise" to be framed separately and hang next to the framed Earthrise.

Hmmm... Decisions...

topmiler
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posted 07-23-2013 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aaargghhh!

If I send my earthrise pic in for Frank Borman from the UK, I won't have it here for Walt Cunningham and Rusty Schweickart to sign in September.

OH NO decisions.

BMacKinnon
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posted 07-23-2013 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BMacKinnon   Click Here to Email BMacKinnon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now only if Kim could pull off a miracle and talk Bill Anders into doing a one time signing! I bet he would be amazed at the amount of items (as long as the fee wasn't at his latest quoted price).

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posted 07-23-2013 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And... Harrision Schmitt.

stsmithva
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posted 07-23-2013 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RockyMnWay:
What is everyone getting signed?

I hope people aren't getting tired of me posting about these when a signing event is coming up, but in 2010 I made some large photo collages of various missions. You can print them at mpix.com or another service. The first two you'll see on this cS forum page are for Gemini 7. They do a pretty good job of showing the whole mission. (The 24x20 more clearly shows it chronologically, as if you're reading a page.)

Since both Borman and Lovell will be signing in August, you could send it in for Borman to sign, then Lovell could sign it a couple of weeks later. (He does have a Gemini 7 completion fee... of $5!)

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posted 07-23-2013 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic news!

If we have stuff with you for Lovell and want Borman on them as well I presume we just annotate the order form accordingly?

Thanks.

NovaRob
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posted 07-23-2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if you've already sent stuff for Lovell, you can send a Borman order form with a description of the items and annotation that items are already at Astronaut Central for the Lovell signing.

Spacefest
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posted 07-23-2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by topmiler:
I won't have it here for Walt Cunningham and Rusty Schweickart to sign in September.
They'll both be at Spacefest in May.

topmiler
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posted 07-23-2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately I'm in the UK. I'm flying over for the ASF in November, Walt is scheduled for that but Rusty isn't as yet.

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posted 07-23-2013 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've actually been hoping for a couple of years for the chance to ask cS members for their opinions about what to ask Frank Borman to write on a couple of items.

First, the easier one: I have an Earth Orbit Chart for Apollo 8, showing the path the spacecraft would be taking... until a point north of Hawaii, where the track just ends with the trans-lunar injection. I couldn't find a large image of an Apollo 8 one online, but it looks just like this one from Apollo 11.

I'm thinking of having Borman sign it at that point: "December 21, 1968: Humans leave Earth orbit for the first time. Frank Borman, Apollo 8 CDR." I'm happy with that wording, showing the historical nature of that moment, but any other suggestions?

Then, a little trickier: I was the top bidder (at the Lunar Legacies auction held at Spacefest last year) on the copy of the Apollo 8 flight plan used by Frank Borman in training. It's got notes in his handwriting inside.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to come up with a ten-word inscription for him to write on the cover, but I'm also thinking of instead typing up a longer description ("The accompanying copy of the Apollo 8 flight plan was used by me...) for him to sign. Could anyone recommend one plan over the other?

SpaceSteve
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posted 07-23-2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yikes!!!!!

Looks like I'm gonna need to send in my Apollo 8 FDC already signed by Bill Anders!!

Jon Long
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posted 07-24-2013 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jon Long   Click Here to Email Jon Long     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sending out an urgent plea for help. Does anyone out there have a high-resolution, high-quality version of the Apollo 8 Earthrise photo AS8-14-2383?

I've come across multitudes of different copies of this photo, but they all generally lack good color correction and are usually 2400x2400 pixels or less.

I'm looking for something high resolution of 4Kx4K or higher and properly color corrected. Does anyone have such a scan of this photo that they would share? I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks all!

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posted 07-24-2013 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by stsmithva:
Could anyone recommend one plan over the other?
Steve, I'd keep it simple "Used in training for Man's First Flight to the Moon". (10 words... perfect!)

stsmithva
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posted 07-24-2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is a good inscription. I should have been specific about why I can't decide between an inscription on the actual item, or a description written up by me on a separate paper and signed by Borman.

I'm trying to think long-term and rather grandiosely - this is a unique and pretty special document, so what could I do to best show what it is for my collection for the next few decades, and even in a museum after that?

The inscription on the actual item would be good because it could never be separated from said item. It also lends authenticity better - someone could conceivably learn how to forge Borman's signature if it's just going on a printed letter that could be reprinted for another try after a bad attempt, but writing ten words and signing the actual document would be far riskier.

A letter written by me would provide more information about the flight plan and the mission, and I could ask Borman to write ten words about his handwritten notes within. But it wouldn't have the advantages I've described about the "direct" inscription.

Maybe I'm overthinking this, but this Apollo 8 flight plan is one of my favorite space items. (I was willing to sell a pretty amazing Apollo 11 flight plan to pay for it.) This is my one shot to have the commander of the mission write about it, so I want to make sure I do it as well as possible.

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posted 07-24-2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Were this a flown flight plan, I would suggest not having it signed. As a training tool, I would say the decision is less clear, but if you do desire to have it signed directly, I would suggest the inscription be made in pencil.

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posted 07-24-2013 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Were this a flown flight plan, I would suggest not having it signed.
You bring up a point I forgot to mention: treating the document well, and not altering it in a ghastly, distracting way. I sure wasn't going to request a thick Sharpie, but you're right - if I have it inscribed, I'll request a pencil.

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posted 07-24-2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jon Long   Click Here to Email Jon Long     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to the couple of gentlemen who took time today to send me copies of Earthrise, I really appreciate it.

If anyone else has access to a high-res copy of this, please let me know. I have an urgent need to close this out tonight if possible.

Again, thanks in advance to everyone for their help.

David C
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posted 07-25-2013 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would anyone happen to know where I could find any comments by Mr Borman on his LLRV/TV flights?

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posted 07-25-2013 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am thinking of getting a Gemini 7/6 rendezvous photo signed by Borman and Lovell. Novaspace is offering 3 of the classic color images of the two Gemini spacecraft.

Which do you like better: "Golden Ribbons," "Jamming Speed," or "GT-7 Rendezvous"? See here for the images.

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posted 07-25-2013 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Greggy_D   Click Here to Email Greggy_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I like "Ramming Speed".

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posted 07-25-2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have "Ramming Speed" signed by Schirra and Borman, but I think that "GT-7 Rendezvous" is a better picture.

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posted 07-28-2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spkjb   Click Here to Email spkjb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DChudwin:
I am thinking of getting a Gemini 7/6 rendezvous photo signed by Borman and Lovell.
Anyone wish to comment on advantages/disadvantages of Borman and Lovell signatures' (one crew) vs. Lovell or Borman and Stafford (one from each crew)?

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posted 07-28-2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mach3valkyrie   Click Here to Email mach3valkyrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I prefer complete crews, if possible, over one from each mission. I'm thinking of sending in an 11x14 photo on Kodak paper of the "Full Moon from Gemini 7" for both signatures.

I have an 8x10 of the nose to nose spacecraft signed by the Gemini 6 crew, but lack the funds to get everything signed right now.

Still, a 4 crew member completion of 7/6 would be sweet!

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posted 07-30-2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for schnappsicle   Click Here to Email schnappsicle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by topmiler:
If I send my earthrise pic in for Frank Borman from the UK, I won't have it here for Walt Cunningham and Rusty Schweickart to sign in September.
Maybe it's just me, but if I prefer to get the astronauts to sign photos taken by them, of them, or at the very least during their mission. I've never seen value in a lunar orbital photo signed by someone who's never been out of earth orbit.

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posted 07-30-2013 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by schnappsicle:
I've never seen value in a lunar orbital photo signed by someone who's never been out of earth orbit.
I get your viewpoint, but ALL the astronauts played a part in getting others to the moon, no?

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posted 07-30-2013 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for onesmallstep   Click Here to Email onesmallstep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very true, especially when it comes to someone like Gen. McDivitt who shifted over to NASA management after Apollo 9 and served as manager of Lunar Landing Operations and then the Apollo Spacecraft Program. Two important positions which he occupied until Apollo 16 in 1972 when he left NASA.

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posted 08-01-2013 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DChudwin:
Which do you like better: "Golden Ribbons," "Jamming Speed," or "GT-7 Rendezvous"?
I found a "GT-7 Rendezvous" photo in my collection signed by Schirra and Stafford. Instead of having a separate GT-7 crew signed photo, I decided to have Borman and Lovell autograph the one already signed by the GT-6 crew to have all four astronauts from this historic mission on one photo.

I trust that Novaspace will work out the logistics, but they have always done a great job in the past.

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posted 08-05-2013 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One week until Borman deadline (Aug 12).

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posted 08-06-2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJ   Click Here to Email AJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To make things easier/speedier, may we fax our order forms if we're also purchasing a photo to be signed?

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posted 08-06-2013 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are just purchasing a photo to be signed, and are not sending any of your own items, then you can fax your order form to the fax number shown on the order form and instructions, or you may scan the form and attach it to an email sent to the email address shown in the instructions.

Spacefest
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posted 08-12-2013 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deadline today.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 09-04-2013 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any update on how the signing went and how Col Borman is faring?

NovaRob
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posted 09-04-2013 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NovaRob   Click Here to Email NovaRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Borman's fine. He was in Phoenix for his annual physical. He signed on Aug 20, and we started shipping the next day, but with Lovell also here on Aug 29-30, we are just now starting to get more items out. Photo COAs may take several weeks to complete. Both men had a very large amount to sign, and did so very quickly over long hours.

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