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alanh_7
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posted 07-16-2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like there have been some changes to the Astronaut Scholarship Foundation's website and now notice that Jim Lovell has been removed as a guest at the Astronaut Autograph and Memorabilia Show but has added a mail-in signing on November 16.

topmiler
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posted 07-16-2012 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaargh, that's a real shame. ASF 2012 was to be my first signing event from the UK, and he was to be top of my list.

alanh_7
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posted 07-16-2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanh_7   Click Here to Email alanh_7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not a big surprise really after Kim Poor advised a week or so ago that he thought Jim Lovell was reaching a point where he found sitting at the signings exhausting and would not likely do many more.

Too bad really but understandable. He is so popular and I have always found very friendly.

Spacefest
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posted 07-16-2012 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get used to it. Buzz is next.

cycleroadie
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posted 07-17-2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a shame, particularly with it being the last 40th Anniversary celebration of Apollo. But these guys are not getting any younger, I can understand that.

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posted 07-17-2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul23   Click Here to Email Paul23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's also useful to know the full situation. I have a piece I would really like to add Jim Lovell to and probably would have held off taking part in a mail in signing in the hopes of getting it signed in person. At least I now know not to hold off and to take advantage of one of the upcoming mail-ins.

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posted 07-17-2012 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the post above. I have a 16 x 20 Earthrise from apollo 8 already signed by Borman and an 11 x 14 print of the damaged SM signed by Haise and Lousma (CapCom for 13) and I will definitely be getting this signed thru the mail.

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posted 07-17-2012 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benfairfax   Click Here to Email benfairfax     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASF has said that he is not being part of the autograph show, they have not said he is not coming to the 40th anniversary of Apollo 17 dinner. I'm sure we will see him there. He is a great ambassador for ASF.

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posted 07-18-2012 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm coming over from UK for the ASF autograph and memorabilia show; my first U.S. signing event. So disappointed Jim Lovell couldn't make this his last one, seen as it's the 40th anniversary of Apollo 17.

Do you think ASF will take items at the show for the Jim Lovell mail-in signing? I've asked them but they haven't replied.

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posted 07-18-2012 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jvertrees   Click Here to Email jvertrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daugherty54:
I have a(n)... 11 x 14 print of the damaged SM signed by Haise and Lousma (CapCom for 13) and I will definitely be getting this signed thru the mail.
You may also want to consider adding Bill Pogue to this print. He was also a Capcom on Apollo 13. He tells a little of the experience in his book "But for the Grace of God". He will be at ASF and is also a fast signer through the mail.

Daugherty54
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posted 07-18-2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was considering that. I have a nice "quote" from each of the others and was going to add the "Houston,. we've had a problem" when Lovell signs. Pogue spends part of the year living in Bentonville Arkansas not far from my sister in law so that one will be an easy autograph. I just can't think of a quote from him - other than I think he gave the permission to burn for the TLI.

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posted 07-19-2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RocketmanRob   Click Here to Email RocketmanRob     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the burn command was given by Vance Brand.

On edit: Apologies - I take that back - Brand's command was on Moon to Earth return leg when they needed to do the course correction.

Daugherty54
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posted 07-19-2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That may be the command I am thinking of. I have plenty of time to figure it out.

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posted 08-20-2012 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think ASF will allow items for the signing to be left with them at autograph show?

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posted 08-20-2012 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd have to ask them to be sure, but I'd think so, considering that one could send items in for the recent Haise signing with the understanding that they would keep them them safe for Lovell to also sign in November.

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posted 08-20-2012 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've tried e-mailing ASF, they don't reply.

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posted 08-20-2012 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you e-mail me, I'll send you the e-mail of the woman at ASF who e-mailed me when my item arrived for the Haise signing and quickly answered a question.

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posted 08-20-2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spacefest   Click Here to Email Spacefest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dwight- there's always Lovell's "Santa Claus" quote.

topmiler
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posted 08-21-2012 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just got a reply from Kristen at ASF.

Yep, you can leave items at the Autograph show for the Jim Lovell signing.

garyd2831
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posted 09-19-2012 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garyd2831   Click Here to Email garyd2831     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any more details to the upcoming Jim Lovell signing in November? November is just around the corner.

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posted 09-19-2012 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing new on their website. I imagine they are busy with the ASF show right now. The whole Atlantis rollover thing gave them some unexpected work too I believe.

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posted 09-27-2012 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASF1984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey all! We're now accepting mail-in items for the Lovell signing through Nov. 7, 2012, and of course you're always welcome to purchase a print to be signed from our Astronaut Store.

You can find more information, as well as downloadable order forms, on our website.

DChudwin
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posted 09-28-2012 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the ASF form, Capt. Lovell's base fee remains at $175 for almost all items, except crew completions where there is an extra $100 charge.

topmiler
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posted 09-28-2012 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does 'Apollo 8' count as two words, or just one as it's a mission inscription?

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posted 09-28-2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jiffyq58   Click Here to Email jiffyq58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it a "crew completion" if it just has Fred Haise's signature on it, but not Swigert's?

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posted 09-28-2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JasonB   Click Here to Email JasonB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure a crew completion would ned to have Swigert on it to have to pay the extra fee.

Also having him add a mission such as "Apollo 8" was free when I got him last year at ASF. I just had to pay extra for added words. Worst case scenario your only paying $10 for it so its still a bargain.

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posted 09-28-2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daugherty54   Click Here to Email Daugherty54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm really glad to get the details and happy that he hasn't gone up on his fees. I have an 11x14 of the damages service module already signed by Haise and Brand (capcom on 13) and a 16 x 20 of the Apollo 8 Earthrise already signed by Borman. Getting these two signed pretty much completes what I want signed.

Thanks ASF

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posted 09-29-2012 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JasonB:
Also having him add a mission such as "Apollo 8" was free when I got him last year at ASF.
Well there's a fee for mission inscription this time. $5 per word. So if I go for: 'Apollo 8' and Apollo 13' it's either two words or four words depending on your viewpoint.

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posted 09-30-2012 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovell's fees are still very reasonable compared to his peers... thankfully, as I have plenty of items to mail in. Looking forward to getting Bean's "Homeward Bound" signed.

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posted 10-03-2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASF1984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crew completion only applies to items with Haise AND Swigert signatures (hence, it would have all three). If the item/photo has just been signed by one or the other, then it's no crew completion fee to have Lovell sign.

And of course, his other missions:
Gemini VII: Borman
Gemini XII: Aldrin
Apollo 8: Borman, Anders

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posted 10-03-2012 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ASF1984     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And adding Apollo 8 would be an extra charge like the previous Lovell signing. If you have any specific questions, feel free to email Nicole@astronautscholarship.org for clarification.

Thanks!

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posted 10-11-2012 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a flown Apollo 8 checklist page that I want to have Jim Lovell sign. I'd prefer to have him sign it "Flown to the Moon", but have heard that he is reluctant to do so. I'm considering something like "First Celestial Navigator." Does anyone have any other suggestions?

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posted 10-12-2012 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrobar1   Click Here to Email astrobar1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mel, a couple of years ago I had Jim Lovell sign an Apollo 8 checklist page. After showing him the provenance, he did sign it "Flown on Apollo 8."

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posted 10-12-2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He refused mine, despite all the provenance, but proudly signed "Navigator".

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Thanks. I've heard of others who wanted pages signed "Flown to the Moon" but Jim declined, even with authenticity documents. So I can't be sure. Therefore I want a good back-up or two. Good to know he signed navigator.

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Lovell declined me as well, but he gladly signed with his Santa Claus quote.

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posted 10-16-2012 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for topmiler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've got a couple of pics for Jim Lovell to sign and my plan was to leave them with ASF at the AAMS event with all the relevant paperwork, and have them posted back to me in the UK.

But I've just started getting nervous about never seeing them again!

Am I worrying unduly, should I go for USPS International or Fedex, is it possible to get insurance for overseas items as the mail-in order form only caters for domestic insurance.

Any help would be appreciated.

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posted 10-16-2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was assured by the ASF crew that they protect the items with very careful packing, but nothing is absolutely guaranteed against damage - that's true of anything shipped via courier unless you're personally acting as the courier.

USPS Priority International is very reliable to UK/Ireland, but may suffer slightly more impacts as it is transiting through the system slightly longer i.e. 1 week. FedEx is probably your best bet, fully traceable in real-time, capable of being delivered in 2 days or 3-5 days unless you want to pay big bucks and overnight it. I've never had an issue with FedEx and have had shipments delivered to me both in UK and Ireland. If it's important enough, I always go for a 2 day delivery as it minimises time in transit without being inordinately expensive.

On edit: One other thing to bear in mind is that the shipment will occur into the Christmas run-in period which is traditionally peak time for parcel/letter freight worldwide.

There is slightly more risk going with USPS. Given the time of year, I would definitely go with FedEx on a 2 day schedule.

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posted 10-16-2012 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YankeeClipper   Click Here to Email YankeeClipper     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MCroft04:
I'm considering something like "First Celestial Navigator."
Just bear in mind that astronavigation was not the exclusive preserve of Apollo astronauts - mariners and explorers have used celestial navigation since ancient times.

First Celestial Navigator To The Moon or equivalent would be historically correct. It's the mission/role that Jim is proudest of.

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posted 10-17-2012 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by topmiler:
Am I worrying unduly, should I go for USPS International or Fedex, is it possible to get insurance for overseas items as the mail-in order form only caters for domestic insurance.
FedEx every time. The problem is not at the US end but it's when the item gets to the UK and Royal Mail "mislay" it or, as happened recently to me, sent it back as there was duty payable and they couldn't be bothered to send me a duty notification.

USPS feeds into Royal Mail; FedEx delivers direct and their insurance is more easily claimed. Royal Mail will bounce you back to USPS even if THEY lose the item. Apparently THEY never make mistakes!

You can open a personal account at FedEx.com and ask ASF to use your account to ship back.


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