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nasamad
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posted 08-17-2007 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hope everyone has a great time at Spacefest, can't wait to see your photo's in the sightings section.

Adam

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I just got back from SPACEFEST ... IT WAS AWESOME !!!

I spoke with Ed Mitchell for 30 minutes Uninterrupted. I gave him a copy of my book and Music CD 'Citizens of Planet Earth', and he gave me a HUGE discount on his book, Autograph, and New DVD (The VIEW FROM SPACE: A MESSAGE OF PEACE).

All the Lines were short. I spoke to many of the Astronauts as if they were hanging in my BackYard.

I called Dr. Buzz a 'SPACE REBEL' , and he looked back at me with a mean smile and said, 'I am not a Space Rebel, Burt Rutan is a REBEL' and we all laughed.

Dr. Buzz has a New Look ... it is very interesting ... a very rebelious Look !

Dr. Buzz spilled coffee on his Blackberry phone and it wasn't working correctly ... he was trying to fix it while taking pictures with people and signing their stuff ... he seemed a little upset that his phone stopped working. I feel for him!

I spent time in the Art Gallery ... it was very nice. I saw Kim Poor in a wheel chair ... I hope he gets better.

I met MANY People and shared many stories with them.

I bought a silver ring with a small Iron meteorite in it ... very Cool!

Overall, it was a Great Experience, short lines and lots of Fun. I doubt it going to be like that on Saturday or Sunday. So I guess I took advantage of going on Friday.

Good Luck to Everyone at the Show and I look forward to Hear Your Stories!

- Zee www.citizensofplanetearth.com

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We're off to a great start.

A "coincidental" breakfast with Walt Cunningham - he told stories of being a young Marine stationed in Japan. And how NASA needs to regrow some bigger... uh, "stones."

Buzz' new look - I told him the beard suited him (I am also bearded), and he said to tell his daughter the doubter! He claimed a true "greybeard" (the expression for a sage aerospace guru) suits him - I agree!

Charlie Duke: The nicest true southern gentleman you can imagine. He took loads of time with everyone, and man does he write beautifully.

Gene Cernan: other than a wrist brace (not on his signing hand), he was smiling and inspiring (especially the youngsters) at the speed of light.

Joe Kerwin: First time he's done a show, I think. Really generous and outgoing gentleman, and for a great bonus, he was assisted by Jayme Flowers, of Apollo 10 stuffed Snoopy photo fame.

The test pilots, often quite underappreciated I think, got quite a kick of the whole autograph convention thing. I think some didn't realize they have "fans."

A real nice moment when an Army Warrant Officer aviator in uniform visited. All the astros treated him with such respect, and thanked him for his service.

Whew. Novaspace is off with a bang in the Spacefest business.

John W

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I believe you saw Charles who's call sign is Disglobes. I've seen him at the last 3 shows. Unfortunately, I was not able to attend this event. I had a room reserved, but I made a few trades right before the market downturn that evaporated my show money. Is Richard Hatch getting many customers? I was the one who told him about the show so I'm hoping it will be a successful event for him.

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I think that Charles is on deployment in Iraq at the moment

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Charles deploys this upcoming Wednesday - that was he. He will be here tomorrow as well.

Zee I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's been a lot of fun. Early reports from the astronauts report they are very pleased - VERY.

This room is quite large, and we managed to have it quite filled several times during the day.

As a minor correction, Kim can walk, he was in a scooter so as not to not wear himself out, but he was having the time of his life today.

As to be expected by Kim, Sally & Novapsace, this has been an extremely class affair. And that seemed to be the byword of many guests and astronauts.

Combined with a space art show, and a booth manned by Paul & Chris Calle, that alone was worth the trip. The Calles are true gents and a lot of fun to be around.

The over 6' LAUNCHABLE Saturn V is a sight to behold too (from Spacetoys at their booth).

I have to say, the ambience and totality is something quite amazing.

Yes, I am prejudiced, but I think many will agree.

This is Joe Kerwins 1st show appearance and he's been having a ball. Won't meet a nicer guy.

Richard Hatch's flight, like most everyones, was delayed. His talk has been rescheduled for tomorrow and I bet it's a grand one. He's a really nice guy. Thanks for recommending him!

The test pilots are amazed at the autograph requests and how many people remembered them. The interaction with the astronauts has been very heartwarming as well, not to mention the mutual respect that is very obvious.

Hopefully others will weigh in but I just left a lobby FULL of folks. So they may not want to be posting tonight.

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The show is great and the venue has been wonderful. The astronauts have been so personable, they have been very willing to talk and spend time with those who have come to see them.

We went and saw the movie "The Wonder of It All" and it was so inspiring to get to see those who had walked on the moon talk about their experience like a "regular" guy. My wife, who has always been supportive of my love of all things space related, came away from that movie with a new outlook on the men and the nation's accomplishment.

Two more days to go, what a great start!

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posted 08-18-2007 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whizzospace   Click Here to Email Whizzospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An end-of-day group photo that took everyone's breath away! An amazing gathering of aerospace pioneers.

Back (L to R): Scott, Lousma, Walker, Carpenter, Schweickart, Mitchell, Aldrin, Cernan

Front: McCandless, Bean, Duke, Cunningham

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posted 08-18-2007 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whizzospace   Click Here to Email Whizzospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John Young just slayed the audience with his talk about the past and future of lunar exploration, chock full of his reknowned dry wit.

Favorite Q & A reply:

Q: Sir, you've flown three different launch vehicles. Which one had the most vibration?

A: Dunno, my knees were shaking during all of 'em!

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This has been a very enjoyable weekend overall. I found this event, which I have personally been calling a convention, an intellectual treat. There were so many offerings on so many different levels. I liken it to a three ring circus with so much going on in so many different directions that everyone’s point of view and memories will be a little bit different. The one common denominator is that everyone had as much fun as they could pack in.

The test pilots idea was a unique flair that I hope to have the honor of participating in again. They are such a wonderful group of folks with such unique stories and experiences. Bob Cardenas’ story about what happens when only one of two JATO bottles fires at take off just left me rolling on the ground laughing.

I can’t thank Kim, Sally, Gerry and my friend Al, who always seemed to be right around the corner with a smile on his face, enough for sponsoring this wonderful party/convention.

Oh yeah, and the cheesecake at the banquet was top flight stuff. God bless my wife who sweet talked her way into getting a few extra pieces to go. My little girls loved them!


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posted 08-20-2007 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bobzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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John Young just slayed the audience with his talk about the past and future of lunar exploration, chock full of his reknowned dry wit.
Wow! I had a very different impression. I was underwhelmed to say the least. The funny comments were standard pilot cliches I have heard from 40 years of flying. He seemed to me to be a bit out of it. I know he is known to be a cold fish, but he certainly came off as uninspiring. Maybe his age has caught up with him. I mean no disrespect, as his accomplishments speak for themself. Has he always been this way?

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I nice show overall, a bit expensive at $25 a head if you were bringing the family with you. The astronauts were very approachable and nice when it came to taking pictures, which aloud my children to meet the astronauts and get picture with them. The only exception was Dave Scott, who was just a rude @#* and wouldn't pose for a picture with my children, even after standing in line for a hour or more, unless you paid him $150 for an autograph first. My children saw first hand what Mr. Scott is about, I guess he hasn't changed much since Apollo 15.

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Just back from the show, and I would like to thank Kim & Sally Poor and their entire gang for a great experience.

Despite 110 degree heat, the hotel was nice and cool. There was a large venue with separate areas for space art, vendors, and the astronauts and test pilots (each of whom had their names and mission plaques behind them). The layout was well-planned.

I got in late Friday just in time for the movie, which was outstanding. I felt like I had just had a conversation with the featured moonwalkers (Mitchell, Duke, Bean, Aldrin, and an eloquent Cernan). It was more about their human side than about technical details.

The lines on Saturday were quite reasonable (except for Dave Scott, who had a long line most of the day). The autograph fees ranged from the reasonable ($10 for General Cardenas and the other test pilots) to the high side ($175 Aldrin; $150 Scott; $125 Cernan). Except Aldrin, most of the signers were nice to add inscriptions for free. Cernan signed covers (which he doesn't always do), as did Bean; Aldrin would not.

The astronauts and test pilots seemed to be having a great time. They all were friendly and readily posed for photographs, most even standing up to do so. Buzz Aldrin was especially friendly and upbeat, as he sported a new beard (makes him look older).

I really enjoyed meeting Joe Kerwin (first American M.D. in space) and Charlie Walker, neither of whom attended previous shows. They were generous with their time and very warm.

For those who appreciate space art, the show was amazing. Besides Kim, Robert McCall, Paul
Calle, Chris Calle, William Hartman and many oothers were in attendance. I especially enjoyed Paul Calle's great stories about his interactions with the Russians such as Leonov who are fellow space artists. Paul, Chris and Bob McCall, who have designed almost all U.S. space stamps, were happy to sign first day covers of their artwork, and the Calles had a lot for sale.

As noted above, one of the treats of the show was the gathering of most of the astronauts there for a group picture as the show was closing on Saturday (Kerwin, Weitz, and Young were MIA from the grouping).

The banquet was good, although I wish they would have introduced the featured guests. Andy Chaikin was the host and Jerry Doyle, the radio host, gave a short talk. The food was above average for such an event. I enjoyed a table with P.J. Weitz, his wife and his son Matt (who writes concert reviews for a Dallas newspaper). I asked Weitz why he was asked to be deputy director of JSC after the Challenger accident and he said "I have no idea," explaining that Dick Truly called him asking him to take the job. We had a very pleasant conversation at the table talking about space but also about our families. I learned that Weitz attended Penn State, where my son goes; P.J. was on campus there when Joe Paterno started as an assistant. He said there were 12,000 students then (now it's over 40,000). He lives in Flagstaff and enjoys fishing, but no longer flies.

Some of the highlights were observing the personal interactions. Before the banquet Gene Cernan was near our table and I saw him warmly hug and talk to a white-haired woman, who I later learned was Jan Evans, Ron' widow. Mrs. Evans came to the banquet with space artist Bob McCall and his wife (they al live in the Phoenix area) and seemed to enjoy seeing everyone. I had breakfast outside Saturday morning with Rob Gallagher and some of the Novaspace staff. John Young and his wife Suzy walked by and warmly hugged and greeted some of the staff (Young remained out of view except for his witty talk and the banquet, which he quickly exited after it was over, in contrast to most of the other astronauts who stayed behind for pictures).

Overall, the show was well-organized and featured some unique people and experiences compared to past ones. I greatly enjoyed my brief visit and look forward to future ones.

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Spacefest is history and I enjoyed it immensely. You really can't compare it to the UACC autograph shows because it was much more than that. The autographing astronauts were friendly, accessible, laid back, and generally eager to talk to and have their pictures taken with their fans. (Buzz was in a very good mood) What made Spacefest soar above other events was the artists, the scientists, the authors, the test pilots, the SF guys, the vendors & dealers, etc. I spoke with and had my picture taken with ROBERT McCALL!!!, Bill Hartmann, Paul Calle, and Rick Sternbach. I had books autographed by David Levy, Andy Chaikin, Bill Hartmann, and others. Nick Proach was selling his models along with a host of other excellent vendors (the Space Toys couple make spending your hard-earned cash a true delight). There were meteorites, models & moonpans; tektites, telescopes & toys; tacky stuff & cool stuff; cheap stuff & expensive stuff ... something for everyone. Of course Novaspace had much of their inventory at the show, and seeing it was worth the price of admission alone. The art show was excellent with a multitude of originals, giclees, and prints on display. World-renowned authorities spoke throughout each day on diverse topics such as astronomy, terraforming, planetary origins, cosmology, SETI, science fiction media, astronomical art, deep space exploration, asteroid mining, comet/meteor defense, NEAs, and on and on. The Wonder of it All film was a big hit with everyone I talked to, including me. I did not attend the John Young lecture but heard from several people that it was "great". The 110+ degrees outside was not a factor. It was great to hang out with friends and meet for the first time several cS members, especially from the UK, Germany, Australia, Switzerland, and Canada. The venue was well-suited and well-prepared for the event. The banners with astronaut names and mission patches was a good idea, plus a visual treat. Kim, Sally, Al, Gerry, & the staff and volunteers did an EXCELLENT job making sure things went smoothly. They worked their butts off...and things went smoothly. Spacefest "ONE" (hint) was a complete and total success. I believe that Kim & Company accomplished exactly what they set out to do. I rate Spacefest 5-stars out of 5 possible. It was truly an unforgettable experience.

Gilbert Huey

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Doug,
I just read your Spacefest report and agree with you 100%. And it was great to finally meet you in person.

Regarding Dave Scott, I witnessed him posing for photos with several people (grown ups & children) who did not buy autographs from him.

And Godspeed to collector and overall great guy Charles Davis, who leaves for Iraq this week.

Gilbert

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I don't know if I can say much that will add to what everyone else has said. Since this was my first show of this sort, everything here was a new experience to me.

All of the astronauts I met were quite friendly and talkative. One astronaut even said "I know you, you post on collectSPACE." (So yes, folks, they DO read these pages!) For me, it was a real honor to meet the test pilots and talk to them. I was especially happy that I got to sit at the banquet table with Gen. Cardenas. He has so many fascinating stories to tell that I was worried he wasn't getting enough time in between breaths to eat his own meal. But he didn't seem to care. He was just happy to share his experiences. His stories of Pancho Barnes were particularly interesting!

One of the biggest highlights was meeting so many fellow collectors and many of the people I have talked to online. Everyone thought the name tags were a terrific idea. Since I know a lot of names, but not many faces, it helped me connect with many people I might not have otherwise recognized. The astronauts also commented on how nice the name tags were, since they could see where everyone was from. It was great to finally meet in person guys like Derek (and his new wife Debbie), Scott, Al, Paul, Yvan, John, Bruce, Dave, and so many others.

It was also a great pleasure to finally meet Kim, Sally, Rob, Randy, and all of the Novaspace crew. They are to be congratulated for putting on such a tremendous show. For those who dropped off items with Rob for the McDivitt and Borman signings, they will know just how much thought and consideration he puts into pen types and signature placement. I was very impressed with his attention to detail.

For those who skipped because they were afraid of the 110 degree weather, you really missed out. I spent two days before the show in Tucson enjoying the Pima Air and Space Museum during the day and spending the evening out in the Saguaro National Park. While it was hot, I was having too much fun to let the heat bother me.

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Just wanted to add my personal thanks to everyone who attended Spacefest this past weekend. It's always nice, and sometimes surprising, to match faces to the names I've been seeing for the past several months as I worked on seating and other arrangements for the banquet while trying to please as many people as possible.

For Charles: godspeed your safe return. Keep your head down and come back in one piece.

For Jerry Doyle: Great little speech. Your family was a joy to witness, particularly your daughter and her obvious devotion to you. I have the ultimate respect for a man such as yourself who places family above all else.

For Al: Thanks for all of your help and encouragement. Nobody shot me--which is legal in this state btw--nobody stalked me and nobody met me outside later. Maybe it was just too hot.

For everyone who brought their children: The children will lead us to greater things in the future. When you expose your children to grand ideas at a young age, they are better able to produce grand visions and accomplishments in the future. Thank you for bringing them.

For Kim and Sally: You both worked long and hard both before and during the show. Take a day off on me.

For Rob, Lisa, Linda and Alina: I'm really sorry I had to leave you early Sunday. I hope you managed to get done before midnight.

Note: Opinions expressed here are my own.

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We had a wonderful time. We spent the prior week in Sedona and also made trips up to The Grand Canyon and Monument Valley. Meteor Crater and an old Route 66 'ghost town' were some of our other stops. Originally we planned the entire trip because of Spacefest - and ironically in the end we had a family commitment come up for Sunday. Living in Charlotte, NC, that meant that we had to fly back on Saturday so we only had a few hours on Friday to enjoy the show.

Enjoy it we did - it was fantastic. Given our time constraints I had to choose carefully among the many opportunities for attendees. My two young daughters - ages seven and five - were with us and we spent our time meeting the astronauts. I'm so pleased to know that they have now met five of the men who walked on the moon, and that they have photos to show to their grandchildren one day. My Emily will turn 70 the year of the 100th anniversary of Apollo 11. Unfortunately we were not able to meet Dave Scott since it was Friday, and a few other folks such as Scott Carpenter were missed due to our rushed schedule. I was practically speechless, just as I always am whenever I am around these gentlemen.

My greatest surprise, and easily one of the highlights, was the opportunity to meet and chat with Andrew Chaikin. He was just as friendly as could be, and he clearly was excited to be there.

Of the items that I picked up my favorite is a black & white 16x20 (the closeup of Alan Bean taking the soil sample with Pete reflected in the visor). Alan, before he signed it, took the time to tell me how they were laughing at the mess Pete had made trying to get the soil into the container.

Thanks to Kim and the entire crew who made the event possible!

Jonathan

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We had a great time in Phoenix-

The positive: All of the signing astronauts were very nice and all were willing to allow you to take a photo with them. The space art was really cool and a big plus for the show. You really see a different crowd with many people belonging to the art and science world that we have never met before.

We sat with Carpenter at the dinner- The volume of the room was very high so it was very difficult to hear, but we did ask some questions and he was very attentive and answered all of us at the table and greeted each of with a hand shake before and photos after.

I must say the event was a class act and having the event in Phoenix gave us an opportunity to see the Grand Canyon, Meteor crater, and the Titan 2 missile silo.

Now the negative: They should have just not advertised John Young. Although others may have had a different experience, he was not very personable- and when he was asked to have his picture taken he flat said no- and rushed to the exit, (this was true after the speech and after the dinner- I guess this is why they put him next to the door). Maybe he had a bad day, however- many people were at this event primarily to met Borman, McDivitt and Young. (I seen a lot of the UACC regulars)I am sorry if this is not the true Young- but he did disappoint me and my father who traveled 2000 miles just to met the one moonwalker that we have not met yet. (It wasn't like we wanted an autograph- we just wanted to shake his hand.

By the Way- all of the other astronauts -minus Young- stayed after the dinner, took pictures, and talked with the crowds long enough that we got to talk and get our picture with all of them.

Jammie Wilhelm
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We need another Spacefest for next year!

I think the astronauts enjoy coming to Arizona... I wonder how many astronauts trained in Arizona's landscape for the moon landing?

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We sat with Carpenter at the dinner- ....he was very attentive and answered all of us at the table and greeted each of with a hand shake before and photos after.
What more can anyone say about Commander Carpenter? A pioneer 50 years ago, and an officer and a gentleman still today. ---

What I noticed here again was that Duke, Mitchell, Cernan, Cunningham, Bean, Weitz, Lousma, and yes; even Aldrin, warm wonderfully to young children. That is the way it should be. Common decency requires no less, and its an attitude that these men openly embrace. Great for the kids. Inspires and motivates new, young minds to the possibility of their becoming *anything*. My children were deeply taken with their visit to KSC and the STS-116 launch in June and were sad that they couldn't attend this event.

What I found disappointing was the Col. Scott did not show up on Friday [or wasn't scheduled], and for those of us who only had one day planned at the event, that information wasn't readily available, or at least I didn't see it posted anywhere. Multiple people asked at his empty booth on Friday where he was. Also disappointing due to poor time management on my part; I missed meeting Dr. Kerwin, someone who I had hoped to chat with. ~~~ General Duke could have used a volunteer at his table to help out with the long lines, credit card transactions and the like. Why the staff at SF didn't notice his predicament and fix it, perplexed me. ~~ Had a great talk with Col. Cunningham & his wife Dot. If you haven't gotten his *All American Boys* boxed set on CD, you should. There are laugh-out-loud moments through out his reading of the book. Well worth having in the car for a long drive. --- & If Captain Cernan ever looses Claire, who knows what would happen to him! -- Lastly: Dr. Mitchell and Capt. Bean are as gentle, and poetic, and artistic in soul, form and function; as anyone you would ever want to meet.

In the memorable moments category. I had the opportunity to briefly help Commander Carpenter on Friday AM in setting up. When I got to his booth, there was this "homeless" looking person wearing a blue baseball cap and unpressed shirt and pants talking to Commander Carpenter.... Much to my surprise, after a long double-take -- it was Buzz Aldrin, sort-of-scruffy-incognito! Sorry, Doctor Aldrin, but that is a memory I soon won't forget! Hope you all have similar memories!

Cheers all! G

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What I found disappointing was the Col. Scott did not show up on Friday [or wasn't scheduled], and for those of us who only had one day planned at the event, that information wasn't readily available, or at least I didn't see it posted anywhere.

It was posted here, among other places: http://collectspace.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000320-2.html

Most collectors there knew that Scott was only planning on being there on Saturday. Actually, Dave Scott stayed longer than advertised and was there until about noon on Sunday.

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General Duke could have used a volunteer at his table to help out with the long lines, credit card transactions and the like. Why the staff at SF didn't notice his predicament and fix it, perplexed me.

Duke's line was never any longer than Bean's or Cernan's or Aldrin's. And Duke was very adept at running his credit card machine, which I witnessed first hand. In fact, I think he was quicker with it than most of the others were. (Also, I swear I saw him having an assistant during the busiest times on Saturday, so it's not like the SF staff left him hanging.)

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Re: Scott's appearance or non-appearance on Friday. You're supposing that I, along with hundreds of other attendees, are supposed to scour a 3rd party website to find a single posting that Col. Scott isn't attending on Friday??? Obviously, I am just not as-in-the-loop as you are. ~~ It should have been up to SF to post an accurate schedule, to inform the public to this fact, something which I did not see on their event site.

As to Duke: You're running a show and making $$ off of it. You ask a guest to attend. He's 72 years old. [Forget the fact that he could probably still out perform either of us]. In my world, I'd cut him some slack and not make him have to cook, clean and wash the dishes --- before he leaves my house, after having been invited as a guest. Get the idea? Best, G

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As to Duke: You're running a show and making $$ off of it. You ask a guest to attend. He's 72 years old. [Forget the fact that he could probably still out perform either of us]. In my world, I'd cut him some slack and not make him have to cook, clean and wash the dishes --- before he leaves my house, after having been invited as a guest. Get the idea?

Maybe, for all we know, Duke PREFERS to do his own cooking and cleaning. Until you or I know any differently, it's best not to criticize. It a matter between Duke and Spacefest...and none of our business, to be quite frank about it.

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What ever happened to El-Baz? Novaspace floated his name on a different thread, which was given more air time by their friend the geologist who just posted above, and then El-Baz's name was never heard from again...?

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Gen. Duke was asked if he wanted help and declined early on. However we did have a volunteer with him the next day. Anyone who wanted one, got one.

Don't worry, they were not allowed near the dishclothes or brooms.

As for El Baz, we simply were not able to work it out.

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About assistance at these shows, a couple of observations, based on my one experience helping Carpenter at the June UACC show and on what I have heard and seen over time.

First, it's not much of an argument. The astronauts do need more assistance at the signing tables. Yes, on the one hand, as a general matter, some astronauts are very ably helped by family members and others. On the other hand, just as a generational matter, some astronauts tend to spurn well-meaning offers of volunteer and paid help.

Here's what the show organizers could do: Go to the local state university placement office. Post a weekend job announcement for astronomy or astrophysics students. Offer $20/hour. Ask the students to show up promptly in a suit and tie. Ten minutes of orientation, perhaps offer a pass to the gala. Tell the astronauts beforehand that these helpers will be available. That you have x numbers of students from XYZ state university. Ask the astronauts to sign up for one of them.

My sense also is that astronauts would be happy to pay for the service, which, as I say, show organizers should set up as a courtesy to our septuagenarian and octogenarian heroes.

The students would take photos, keep track of pens and inscriptions and monies. Run credit card machines if necessary, and generally manage lines, time, breaks, etc. This builds community around the shows and introduces astronomy students to astronauts.

Seems to me that the service would actually pay for itself in time the astronaut would save: allowing him to spend time signing instead of on managing the store.

Just my 2 cents.

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posted 08-21-2007 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novaspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not necessary at Spacefest. We had perhaps 100 wonderful, knowledgeable, capable volunteers who made it all possible (a suit and tie would have been a little much for Phoenix in August)

I suspect that some astronauts simply don't want it known by a volunteer or helper how much they make at these shows.

Kim

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Not necessary at Spacefest. We had perhaps 100 wonderful, knowledgeable, capable volunteers
Kim

Thanks, Kim. Happy to be educated. So many volunteers! That's great.

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Thank you everybody for the very informative and interesting postings. It sounded wonderful as expected.

If possible please could people from the event post some of your photos .Thank you. Bye.

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Hey Kris - missed you helping your Dad!

It was apleasure to see him as always.

Sometimes you get the problem too, of people who help them set up. Well meaning and of course, 1st in line to get lengthy inscriptions which ties it up for those behind them also.

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Thanks to Kim, Sally, Linda, Lisa etc. and all volunteers. I hope there will be another Spacefest as this was a fantastic experience.

A particular note of appreciation for Charlie Walker - his approachability, enthusiasm and comunication skills brought the experience of shuttle flight alive. Hopefully Charlie will become a regular at space events.

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Well what can i say. Spacefest was everything and more, i firstly got to meet great people Jim Rowan, brammers, Dave Sixsmith and of coarse Gerhard Danny and Gilbert. The whole event start to finish was an adrenaline rush i think i slept no more than eight hours in three days the british fraternity was the blame for that and cheap beer in the bar over the street.

The Astronauts were fantastic all taking time to chat, i was sat next to Walt Cunningham and his lovely wife Dott for the banquet, this was a great end to the weekend for me.

Big thanks to Kim his charming wife Sally Linda, Lisa, Rob,and Randy it was the best weekend iv'e had ever and of coarse i've spent a fortune but no regrets.

cant wait for the next chapter.

Paul.

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I thought Robert (Collectspace) was going to be at the show. What happened? I was looking forward to say hi to him and see his collection all over again.

- Zee

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A particular note of appreciation for Charlie Walker - his approachability, enthusiasm and comunication skills brought the experience of shuttle flight alive. Hopefully Charlie will become a regular at space events.

I agree - I met him while I was at the Sims-Hankow show at KSC earlier this year, and he's a great speaker.

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I thought Robert (Collectspace) was going to be at the show. What happened? I was looking forward to say hi to him and see his collection all over again.
With an on-going shuttle mission, I felt I needed to stay in Houston. Based on the stories and pictures readers have shared, it looks like SpaceFest was fun! Maybe I can join you guys next time...

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posted 08-21-2007 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swedwards1960   Click Here to Email swedwards1960     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Going into Spacefest, what I was wondering is whether there's room for two space-oriented shows in a given year. After the event, I would say, that at least at this time, the answer is yes.

Each has its own particular slants, strengths, and weaknesses. I say "at least at this time," because it remains to be seen (obviously) whether interest can be sustained over multiple years. No matter what, the organizers can help themselves by having a longer amount of time between events than just two months (and, as someone living in Ohio, taking advantage of the "reward" of leaving the bad weather for good if in places like Florida or Arizona.

On to Spacefest:

I think the event was very well organized and applaud everyone involved for that. The backdrops in the autograph area for each GoH was a nice touch (both in terms of giving them their due as to accomplishments as well as providing a good background for photographs).

I particularly liked the talks and actually spent a good deal of time each day at them. Of special note were those by Paul Calle, Carolyn Porco, and Jim Rice (plus John Young, though perhaps more for his significance than the presentation).

Another strong point (for me) were the artists. Paul Calle was very interesting and extremely personable. At the banquet, I was at the table of Mr. and Mrs. McCall and they were both wonderful people. I had brought Mr. McCall's book, simply in the hopes I could have it signed, but he took the time to fill the entire full page with a drawing and dedication to myself. Attendees came very close to seeing a grown man cry as I could not believe that the man responsible for the artwork (not just the main poster) for the film 2001 was doing that for me, in front of me -- it was a special moment I shall cherish.

Next to me at the banquet was Mrs. Evans, who was wonderfully nice and treated me to special stories about the (ongoing) relationship amongst the astronaut wives and a great anecdote about watching the first moomwalk with (the then) Mrs. Armstong.

In the signing area, I was especially pleased with interaction with Walt Cunningham, Rusty Schweickart, Bruce McCandless, and Paul Calle. As shown in another topic, I was especially concerned about getting a moonwalker piece inscribed in a certain way (all others so far have name, then mission, then which number moonwalker) by Dave Scott. It turned out in my favor, most likely because I was early in the day and because it was likely seen as an extension of his mission info rather than extraneous copy (or as they put it, a "dissertation.)

As always, the attendees were excited, admiring, enthusiastic, and welcoming in conversation. Some I had met in the past; others new.

I do agree, though, with a previous posting that the banquet would have been stronger if the GoH were introduced and acknowledged, if for no other reason that some of us may not have known about some of their accomplishments (for instance, I don't know that much about the test pilots aside from those who later became astronauts.

The banquet, as with the hotel's restaurant, suffered from some major personnel shortage issue. Both times I visited the restaurant, everything was so slow as to be unbelievable (even though those working did the best they could). At the banquet, for instance, 4 of our table only got their salads after multiple requests and at the time others were getting their entrees. Entrees (good as they were) came late to nearly half of our group (embarassingly enough, including Mr. and Mrs. McCall, the latter of whom had to settle for an entree she did not prefer just "to get something." Then we never got our dessert or coffee (though am glad to hear others say how good it was).

All in all, a great time, enjoyable to learn from the speakers, and see the guests in informal settings. It was especially nice to see how much they truly care for one another, a community unto itself -- Gene Cernan visiting Mrs. Evans on multiple occasions and bringing fresh glasses of wine to her and Mrs. McCall was very nice. Also a class touch I've not heard about elsewhere was Buzz Aldrin at Dr. Porco's talk. It was significant enough that he left his signing area at a main time of the day to attend and had some very kind words for her and her efforts to the audience after her talk. Very class act I thought.

One other important memory was that, after the Wonder of it All film, I made a special trip to the autograph area to see many of the people I had seen in the movie "in real life." Several were there, with one more joining the next day. Irreplaceable.

Now the only questions are: 1) Where will UACC be next year? and 2) When will Spacefest be next year (assuming that Phoenix is its home base)?

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Dr. Buzz spilled coffee on his Blackberry phone and it wasn't working correctly... he was trying to fix it while taking pictures with people and signing their stuff... he seemed a little upset that his phone stopped working. I feel for him!
Yeah, that was us (my husband Eric and I) standing next to Buzz as he was fixing his blackberry! Boy, if one of us ever get on Jeopardy, do we have a great anecdote to share

I was also right in front of kosmo and family in the Dave Scott line- I'm sorry that you weren't able to get a picture, we felt so bad for you afterwards.

Overall though, we had an amazing time!!! I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed talking to all of the test pilots- what a great group of people! I agree alot with what has been said already: there was ample time to talk to the astronauts, they were all approachable and great conversationalists, Kim, Sally & the Novaspace team (especially Randy!) did an amazing job, and the whole experience was so much fun.

One last fun anecdote to share- we weren't sure at first if our cab driver took us to the right hotel (we had a hard time understanding him). We walk in not sure if we're in the right place, and who's right in front of us at the front desk waiting to check in??? John Young! Yep, we were in the right place at the right time indeed! Very cool.

We have many memories, pictures, and autographs that we will cherish forever! Thanks to everyone who contributed to our experience, and here's hoping there's more events like this in our future!

Kearney (and Eric too!)

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I had a ball.

Kim Poor, Al Hallonquist, and company did a splendid job. I saw far too many friends to mention everybody, because I'd be sure to leave someone out. Everyone who was there was cool.

Rusty Schweickart, Charlie Duke, Jack Lousma, Gene Cernan, and Bruce McCandless were the big highlights for me among the astronauts. Great guys who didn't nickel and dime you. Rusty and Charlie went far and above in providing some terrific inscriptions. Joe Kerwin was extremely nice and easy to deal with. I hope to see him again.

I missed seeing Kris Stoever! Let me know when you get your copies of those obscure Mercury photos we talked about at KSC, Kris. I sent them along with Carpenter.

I loved the test pilots and was proud of my friends in the group of collectors who brought them to Phoenix. Ray McPherson, Ken Chilstrom, Bob Smyth, and Bob Cardenas were excellent guys and great breakfast and dinner companions.

At breakfast on Friday, Al invited us over to Chilstrom's table, and Bob Smyth joined a few minutes later. After some guy talk about baseball and the coming college football season over eggs and bacon, Smyth leans over to Chilstrom, and says, "Say, you're Ken Chilstrom, aren't you?" Chilstrom said he was. Smyth, 80 years young and sharp as a knife, then says, "I last saw you in 1948 when your squadron was sent over to Wright Field where I was based." The conversation took off from there, as we watched 60 years melt away at the reunion of two legendary aviators. I think that's about as good as it gets in the aviation/space world.

My good buddy David D'Angelo was kind enough to offer us his tickets to the dinner when he learned he wouldn't be able to attend. What a nice gift from a great guy. We sat with Bruce McCandless, who could not have been nicer to everyone he met. Thank you, David. Because of your absence, Bruce was happy to sign a photo to you and it'll be in the mail hopefully tomorrow. I owe you a case of Black Label (Just kidding).

The facility was great, the hotel was nice, and the air conditioning worked fine. Though Borman and McDivitt couldn't swing the date, I was really pleased with the "consolation signing" at the reduced prices. It was a good faith effort that went a long way in making up for their absences. That salvaged the situation for me in that I still will get everything signed that I had planned to get signed, so all is well that ended well. In the end, I didn't really mind. Stuff like this happens sometimes, and Kim and Al made up for it to my satisfaction.

I did like the academic twist to the show. I also enjoyed the artistic side. Calle was wonderful. The guy is very down to Earth. McCall had an ear to ear grin the whole time he was there. Great gallery. Linda, Lisa, Sally, Rob Gallagher...great people. Thanks to everybody!

Rob

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Got back Tuesday am after a diversion via Atlanta due to an a/c being out of position from the hurricane (I was due to transit via JFK), which resulted in a transatlantic business class upgrade!

For me highlights were:
· meeting so many people with whom I’ve corresponded, bought and sold over the years (too many to mention, but thank goodness for the name badges which should be a feature of every show).
· Being on Dave Scott’s table for dinner and being complimented on the quality of my questions!
· The post-banquet “session” with some other drunken bums. Mike Constantine has some very strange photos of the event.
· Being in the company of so many space and avaition pioneers - all of whom had time to chat with you. Especially nice to meet Joe Kerwin.
· Having some super chats with the TPs – all of whom are so modest.
. the overall diversity of the show with some outstanding talks.

I'd just like to thank Kim, Sally, the rest of the hard-working Novaspace team, Al, Gerry and others too many to mention for a super 3 days.

Paul Bramley


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