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Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-14-2014 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gaston & Sheehan Auctioneers is hosting a U.S. Marshals Service online space memorabilia auction:
Featuring flown space collectibles, autographed memorabilia, Apollo film and more! Auction opens for bidding March 18 and closes April 1, 2014.

chet
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posted 03-14-2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the more scattershot auctions I've seen: prices all over the place, and inaccurate, incorrect and incomplete descriptions. Good luck to any takers.

Steve Zarelli
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posted 03-14-2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Zarelli   Click Here to Email Steve Zarelli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last U.S. Marshals auction I saw was for memorabilia confiscated from the convicted former congressman, Jesse Jackson Jr. (It was full of entertainment fakes, by the way.)

So was this material confiscated from someone?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-14-2014 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on the items being auctioned (including a number of Cosmosphere-related pieces), these may be from Max Ary's personal collection (as opposed to the recovered items that belonged to NASA or the Cosmosphere, which were returned to the space agency and museum).

jonspace
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posted 03-14-2014 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonspace   Click Here to Email jonspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why are the beta cloth patches so expensive? Notably the NASA logo and the US Flag.

chet
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posted 03-14-2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chet   Click Here to Email chet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think whoever put this auction together has no idea about realistic values for these items and was figuratively throwing darts at a dartboard to determine prices.

fredtrav
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posted 03-14-2014 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fredtrav   Click Here to Email fredtrav     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems that way.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-17-2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The auction is indeed comprised of the items May Ary was required to forfeit to the government during his case. They were not related to the trial, but were part of the forfeiture that the government required.

About a year ago, Max was asked to provide the background details for each of the items, but it seems that Gaston & Sheehan decided to use its own lot descriptions. To assist bidders, here is Max's original descriptions (PDF).

As noted in the document, Max is willing to provide a COA for some of the items to verify their background and history, and he says he should be able to get a couple of the astronauts who personally gave some of the items to him to also write up a COA. (I can help put readers in touch with Max if requested.)

stsmithva
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posted 03-17-2014 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's almost a shame how unrealistically high the "Current Bid" (which I assume is the opening bid they require) is on many items. They would be nice additions to collections, but I can't imagine they will get bid on at those starts.

The very first three lots show how strange those current bids are. Lot 1 is an Apollo XVII beta cloth signed by the crew, for $1275. Lot 2 is an Apollo X beta cloth signed by that crew, arguably just as rare/expensive, for $275. And then lot 3 is an Apollo XII beta cloth signed by Gordon... for $850!

rgarner
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posted 03-17-2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rgarner   Click Here to Email rgarner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree, a swing and a miss with most of the prices on there. I don't think I will be partaking in this auction.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-17-2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stsmithva:
The very first three lots show how strange those current bids are.
Per Max's descriptions, of the three beta cloths that open the auction, lots 1 and 2 were also flown on their respective missions.

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posted 04-10-2014 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pharoid   Click Here to Email pharoid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wondering if lot 25, the flown Apollo 10 Heat Shield Segment in Acrylic Pyramid was sold in the recent Gaston & Sheehan auction on behalf of the U.S. Marshals Service and if so, what was the highest bid?

Many thanks.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-10-2014 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The prices realized can be found here. Lot 25 went unsold for $680 with no bids.

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