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idrvball
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posted 10-07-2009 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just finally got in, but I have a blank screen.

music_space
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posted 10-07-2009 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for music_space   Click Here to Email music_space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Same here. Have called them at 1h10 pm Eastern. They told me that they had not started, and confirmed that phone bids were not implemented.

DCCollector
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posted 10-07-2009 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DCCollector   Click Here to Email DCCollector     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seems to be working now...

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posted 10-07-2009 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnraiders   Click Here to Email johnraiders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep I'm in, lot 1.

space1
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posted 10-07-2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for space1   Click Here to Email space1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are GO for main auction start...

spaceflori
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posted 10-07-2009 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, working now!

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I'm the proud owner of lot 87. It was impulse!

Lot 76 looked a steal, but internet glitch stopped me from bidding. It went for $290.

idrvball
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posted 10-07-2009 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is without a doubt, the most frustrating auction to bid on. I have never seen so many internet problems!

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posted 10-07-2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunareagle   Click Here to Email lunareagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was never able to access bidding. Has anyone else been shut out?

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posted 10-07-2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnraiders   Click Here to Email johnraiders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They've just gone for lunch, back in 40 minutes at 1330 PST. I've been bidding fine, bought a few other small items.

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posted 10-07-2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idrvball   Click Here to Email idrvball     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to bid on some items and it didn't take my bid. For example, I kept trying to bid on #152, a Collins autograph that went for $50! It wouldn't take my bids. That was just one. I probably lost out on 5 others. I won some lots. Just wish I knew what they were because I kept closing the window and signing back in.

spaceflori
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posted 10-07-2009 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like the system doesn't take bids for lots that have no bids yet (can be seen if high bid and next bid are identical which means there was no bid placed in the absentee bidding nor on the floor). Strange...

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posted 10-07-2009 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnraiders   Click Here to Email johnraiders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you go to My Account you can see what you've won, it updates instantly. I wondered why Collins only went for $50.

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posted 10-07-2009 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only one fifth of the way through the auction after 2.5 hrs! (65 items an hour including breaks). I'll be in bed before it's half way through!

gliderpilotuk
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posted 10-07-2009 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by idrvball:
I tried to bid on some items and it didn't take my bid.
Same here. Only bidder on 2 items but bids not accepted. Ridiculous.

spaced out
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posted 10-07-2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From past experience I'd say always place a few key bids on items before an auction starts, at least for those items you do not want to miss.

This applies doubly if the live auction system being deployed is a new one.

Some of my best bargains have been from early live auction attempts by some auction houses where everything went haywire on the night.

Mercurypgm
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posted 10-07-2009 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurypgm   Click Here to Email Mercurypgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The GOOD news is my 2 funky red Neil's did not sell, but at least enough collectors now know they are real.

The BAD news is I just gave up live bidding as it seems 3 or 4 VERY CHOICE lots I tried to bid on sold before I could even click my mouse. I'll save my money for a rainy day, but at least I think I got Bob Glass' business suit Armstrong for $1000 as I had pre-bid to $1005, but it never told me I was the winner. Bob is a great guy for all of you who know him. Perhaps I should go to the "my account" page to find out. Now there is an idea.

From now on I will only phone bid.

Very disappointing from someone who has been a strong supporter of Regency-Superior.

liebeek
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posted 10-07-2009 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried to bid on items but it kept saying, you have been outbid while the amount stayed the same as in the opening bid and even finally sold for the opening bid. Really weird. Everything seemed to work but I simply could not get my bid across.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 10-07-2009 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now I was high bidder on an item but didn't seem to win it, even though it sold at my high bid!

Logging off to save my money for Superior, where at least the technology works.

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posted 10-07-2009 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ocnixon   Click Here to Email ocnixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I called and this what was recommended. One must only have one's current browser open for the Live Auction site to work properly. If you are logged into multiple browsers the system does not know which browser to accept bids from. Therefore, it does not accept any bids. The system has been corrected. Therefore, log out and resign back in to bid. It worked for me and others. Thanks!

Mercurypgm
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posted 10-07-2009 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurypgm   Click Here to Email Mercurypgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Logging off to save my money for Superior, where at least the technology works.
I think you mean Heritage not Superior. Been a long day.

I apparently DID get the Armstrong business suit of Bob's even though it took a long time to post as sold to me (as well as the 2 Armstrong signed X-15 covers). So much for technology being immediate, but the good thing about technology is you can log off whenever. Time to watch the baseball playoffs. GO YANKEES. Gee, I guess TV is technology too. OH WELL, SMILE.

Sam Que
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posted 10-07-2009 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was able to access live bidding earlier today but can't seem to get in again. Anyone with a similar issue?

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posted 10-07-2009 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johnraiders   Click Here to Email johnraiders     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It didn't take bids during the Apollo 8 stretch, that stuff went cheap!

liebeek
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posted 10-07-2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liebeek   Click Here to Email liebeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, off to bed. I tried to bid again. On 5 items, 2 bids were accepted because there was already an opening bid I suppose. The other 3 I could not get across. Really frustrating as I liked those very much.

Wish I would have quit sooner, wasted my evening.

Sam Que
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posted 10-07-2009 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was never able to re-log on. I assume the bidding is over?

Although I did pick up a couple of items earlier in the day.

Mercurypgm
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posted 10-07-2009 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurypgm   Click Here to Email Mercurypgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just talked to Reg-Sup and if you had placed a fax or phone bid in advance that shows as a floor bid. The "buy/sell" screen does not update floor bids immediately as you are identified as just a number, not a name. It would seem that some of you (including myself) may have purchased items but they are just not updated as of yet on the buying or losing page. Very confusing and I am not really positive of what I speak. Much like the answers we are getting from Reg-Sup. GRIN.

poolman18
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posted 10-07-2009 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for poolman18   Click Here to Email poolman18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like I got Lot #211 Apollo 8 envelope signed by Anders/Borman $140 and finally a WSS Irwin Lot #324... any thoughts?

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posted 10-07-2009 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadSci     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed my main choices this time, the Hubble flown parts. I got stuck in a meeting at work. What burns the most is that it looks like my pre-auction bid was topped by just a single offer - arggg!

Oh well. Although I missed the first hundred lots I had no problems using my office, or home computer, even on my mobile phone at one point! I did note some issue at work but I re-set the cable modem and router and all worked fine after that. We often forget that those devices need a re-set every now and again, and I have come to make that a part of my pre-auction preparation.

I ended up with an A17 Flown US flag for only $1600 - and it came along with a Christopher Kraft signature! I also got a medal for scientific achievement for the same gentleman's estate. They will look good together!

I picked up a couple of models to go on my shelves and tie the various artifacts together. The best was a Vostok presented by the Baikonur Cosmonauts to Korolev's Mother for only $210. It's lovely, and at least mildly historic and will nestle right next to my Vostok 1 acrylic!

All in all not a bad day!

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posted 10-08-2009 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by poolman18:
Looks like I got Lot #211 Apollo 8 envelope signed by Anders/Borman $140 and finally a WSS Irwin Lot #324... any thoughts?
Well, to tell you the truth, I'd be surprised in the case of lot #211, since a couple of days ago I went to put in a bid and the opening amount was already much higher than $140. I was willing to pay almost twice that and didn't bother putting in a bid because of what was already being asked. But if somehow it's true: sweet!

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posted 10-08-2009 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Had no problems bidding!

I did bid on one item via fax as well, when will I know about that one?

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posted 10-08-2009 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bkatspt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won a couple of lots, but I guess i dont understand if there is a hidden reserve. After MercuryPGM said his Armstrong's didn't sell, but looked like they did online. What is the policy on reserves - instead of saying "sold" during the online auction shouldn't they say "passed" due to reserve.

Maybe somebody can educate me. Fun to watch the auction live. I had a couple where the button didn't take my bid so I got off and logged back in and was back to good.

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posted 10-09-2009 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we had sound with the on-line auction it would really make you part of the action!

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posted 10-09-2009 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurypgm   Click Here to Email Mercurypgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Items with a reserve that are "not sold" are effectively shown as "sold" since I had to pay a fee to buy them back. On large $$$ items I do put a reserve as I would rather pay to get them back as opposed to selling them at a very low price. I hope that makes sense and clarifies a previous question that was posed.

I have calmed down after losing a few items I really wanted (due to technical issues) but overall I kept within my budget and realize that I am sure the bugs will be fixed for the January auction. Next time I will phone bid on the high dollar items I want. I quote the song..."Once bitten twice shy"....GRIN.

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posted 10-09-2009 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ross   Click Here to Email Ross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the first time I've bid in a Regency-Superior auction for some years and the first time I've used their website to bid (several years ago I bid my mail and/or fax) and I must say I'm a little confused. Yesterday I checked my account and I had lost all 5 lots with 4 of the 5 at or one bid above my maximum bid. I was of course disappointed. Today I got an email saying I had won 3 lots so I checked my account again and sure enough, it now showed that I had won 3 lots. While I'm happy to win the lots I wonder why my account showed I had lost them yesterday.

I also have another question. If the only bidder is a pre-auction bidder who puts in a maximun bid and there is no reserve, what price is charged?

I also noted that there appeared to be few bidders for the very nice Recovery Ship covers on offer including hard to find Captain's covers. There was quite a bargin in these with a MR-3 USS Lake Champlain going for $900 against an estimated of $2000-$3000.

I'm looking forward to receiving my lots including a 1961 USS Randolph cover signed by the Captain! Will make a nice addition to my collection.

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posted 10-09-2009 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Top 10 Performing Lots at Regency-Superior's Oct. 7, 2009 Space Auction
  1. Lot 492: 2000 Landing On The Moon $11.75 S/S Double Hologram


    Credit: Regency-Superior Galleries

    Spectacular error with two individual $11.75 face value holograms, one imperforate. They are positioned side by side.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $7,605

  2. Lot 176: c.1967 Top Docking Hatch From Lunar Module

    Probably used during pressure testing, this 34.5x31.5 hatch is painted turquoise on outside and silver on inside. Original Grumman parts tags (marked Hatch-Secondary-Tested), stickers and even part of the gold thermal blanket attached.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $7,020

  3. Lot 139: 1965 United States Flown Flag

    A United States flag (12x7.5) carried on board Gemini 5 Mission, larger than most carried flags. Some yellow staining due to adhesive applied to back, otherwise very fine.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $6,250

  4. Lot 442: 2003 Complete Crew Signed Litho

    Official NASA 8x10 color litho of the complete crew in their orange pressure suits. Astronauts Rick D. Husband, William C. McCool, Michael P Anderson, Kalpana Chawla, David Brown, Lauren Blair Salton Clark & Ilan Ramon all perished in the tragic breakup of orbiter Columbia on its return from space on February 1, 2003.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $5,850

  5. Lot 174: c.1966 Lunar Module Landing Strut Assembly From Grumman

    Extraordinary 34 in. long titanium triangular assembly of a back-up Lunar Module strut assembly, two tubular legs with red serial numbers and notations.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $5,557.50

  6. Lot 352: 1972 Apollo 17 Lunar Surface Flown Checklist

    Single two-sided sheet about 7.5x10.25 in size, page 14-9 from the Malfunction Procedures manual from the Lunar Rover chapter. Signed and certified by mission commander Gene Cernan.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $5,265

  7. Lot 175: 1966 Lunar Module Landing Gear Upper Segment

    Extraordinary 34 in. long segment of a back-up Lunar Module leg segment, flight ready and covered with Kapton foil.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $4,680

  8. Lot 724: 1963 Gemini MOL Model

    Official NASA model, still in its original wooden transport case. Model is 28 in. long and 4 in. diameter with a small astronaut in spacesuit for scale display purposes that is attached with an umbilical or safety line to the craft. Silver Gemini capsule & white MOL with black USAF decals.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $4,387.50

  9. Lot 264: 1969 Crew Signed Launch Cover

    Dow-Unicover cacheted launch cover in blue at left signed in blue sharpie by Astronauts Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins on this KSC machine canceled cover dated Jul. 16, 1969.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $4,387.50

  10. Lot 258: 1969 Crew Signed Moon Photo

    A stunning and rare 8x10 color photo of the MOON signed in black sharpie by Astronuats Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins to which Collins and Aldrin have added their Apollo 11 designations.

    Final bid (including buyer's premium): $4,387.50

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posted 10-09-2009 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cjh5801   Click Here to Email cjh5801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurypgm:
...but at least I think I got Bob Glass' business suit Armstrong for $1000 as I had pre-bid to $1005, but it never told me I was the winner. Bob is a great guy for all of you who know him...
I'm pleased to hear that Bob's a great guy, since I got the other Bob Glass WSS Armstrong for $1600 (plus premium) in pre-bid.

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posted 10-10-2009 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurypgm   Click Here to Email Mercurypgm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least I now know who beat me out on the Bob Glass Armstrong WSS. GRIN. If you ever decide to trade it for another equally as nice inscribed Armstrong WSS I would love to trade in order to be able to keep the pair of Bob Glass Armstrong's together. My way of saying thanks to my long time friend. Gee, I am getting sentimental in my old age.

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posted 10-10-2009 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnkwio   Click Here to Email bunnkwio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boy, its things like this that almost brings me to tears... I was on a business trip, so I had to miss out on the auction. Now I see that an Apollo 11 film piece went for $170, Spaceflori's film presentation went for $180, the panchromatic roll (dup) from the SimBay went for $144... heck, less than $2,000 for American Flags that went to the moon...

Yes, I could've pre-bid, but with money being a bit tight, I would've had to put all my eggs in one basket.

Oh well, maybe next time!

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posted 10-11-2009 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's weird how one piece of Apollo 11 film sold for $170 and an identical piece went for $480.

I agree with you, maybe next time....

Sam Que
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posted 10-11-2009 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam Que   Click Here to Email Sam Que     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Spaceflori's film presentation went for $180
I just started collecting not to long ago, can I assume the $180 for the Spaceflori's was reasonable? ...or did I overspend?


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