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Novaspace
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posted 09-13-2007 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novaspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Novaspace Live Auction is rescheduling until January 2008. Same venue (the Arizona Challenger Center in Phoenix.)

Dates TBD, but it will be towards the end of the month, to take advantage of the Super Bowl being held nearby.

[Editor's Note: The auction date has been set for January 26, 2008.]

We feel that three major space auctions in a month was too much.

Once again, we have about 50 selected lots of over 600 previewed here, including 4 unchallengeable Armstrong-signed items, and we'll add some more soon. In fact, you'll notice there have been no challenges to any of our items authenticity -- unprecedented.

Live and advance bidding on eBay.

This auction is being produced by the same team that brought you the wildly successful SPACEFEST.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 09-16-2007 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kim, can we ensure a sensible start time so that those of us outside of the US don't have to stay up all night? Thanks,

Paul

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posted 09-16-2007 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novaspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We'll start at 9 a.m..

Kim

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posted 12-23-2007 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pdpel3   Click Here to Email pdpel3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received my catalog from the USA, there are some nice signed pieces in the book. Lot 396 Flown decent map looks a great piece to add to a collection if I only had that amount of spare cash?

Paul

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posted 12-23-2007 06:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Mulheirn   Click Here to Email Rick Mulheirn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Novaspace have done a great job of the catalogue; very slick presentation.

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posted 12-23-2007 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jut2y   Click Here to Email jut2y     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pdpel3:
...if I only had that amount of spare cash?
Me and Rick know just what you mean Paul.

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posted 12-23-2007 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1202 Alarm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a fantastic layout, great items, all that more than one month before the auction. Proof that the usual "48hrs before D day" can be beaten. A big thanks to Kim & Sally.

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posted 12-23-2007 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd love to see Novaspace take over the mantle of space auction specialist. With the negative comments I have read on the other specialist recently I could imagine it coming true!

Adam

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posted 12-24-2007 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stsmithva   Click Here to Email stsmithva     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't seen a catalog, but my favorite of the preview items online is way down towards the bottom: Jim McDivitt's Gemini cockpit trainer. I'd like it even if it was just a piece of NASA hardware without a specific history, but knowing that it comes directly from an astronaut who probably sat in front of it for hours practicing various procedures for an early space flight... wow. Hopefully it comes with documentation from McDivitt about how it was used.

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posted 12-24-2007 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dsenechal   Click Here to Email dsenechal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will the entire catalog be available on-line, or perhaps a downloadable pdf file?

Dave

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-26-2007 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As received from Novaspace:
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Our LIVE auction will be held in Peoria (Phoenix) Arizona at the Challenger Center January 26th (Saturday) beginning at 9AM.

Our catalog is available on our site. (PDF, 27mb)

Or full color hardcopy for $30: (better color & type, sharper pictures)

You can bid from the comfort of your home computer via eBay Live Auctions either before or during the auction.

We encourage you to come to the proceedings, as floor bidders have a distinct advantage over phone or internet bidders (and save 5%) The Arizona Challenger Center is quite a place, too! Well worth seeing.

Although the auction is only a week before the Super Bowl, held just down the street, we've reserved a block of hotel rooms at: Country Inn & Suites, (623) 879-9000, reference Novaspace ($139).


mjanovec
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posted 12-26-2007 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fantastic lot of goods there!

capoetc
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posted 12-27-2007 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capoetc   Click Here to Email capoetc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A question about lot #57 (not an authenticity question):

I have a signed cover that looks just like this one, with the two stamps in the same location. However, I have never heard it called a Type II insurance cover before. I thought the Apollo 15 Type II insurance covers all had the antarctica stamp, as in Lot #56.

Are they both Type II insurance covers?

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Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-08-2008 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Novaspace's catalog is now eBay Live Auctions for advance and absentee bidding.

Novaspace has also posted a corrigenda on their website.

Online bidders pay a 20% buyer's premium, a "good portion" of which will go to
"the Challenger Center (and eBay)". Floor bidders pay 15%.

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posted 01-09-2008 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Zimmer   Click Here to Email Mark Zimmer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh, just when I was going to say the buyer's premium was fairly reasonable, it goes up.

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posted 01-10-2008 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LCDR Scott Schneeweis   Click Here to Email LCDR Scott Schneeweis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel better knowing that at least a percentage of the premium is going to a good cause ..

Kim... will a specific Challenger center be receiving the donation or will it be going to the national organization? I have visited several Challenger centers and been impressed with most of them but the local Pima Air Museum's center here in Tucson, IMO is poorly run (they don't have many artifacts and don't seem particularly interested in leveraging available resources to acquire them to enhance the learning process and interactive experience by students)...

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mjanovec
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posted 01-13-2008 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the Novaspace Auction website, the breakdown of buyer's premiums will be:

10% to Novaspace
5% to the Arizona Challenger Center
5% to Ebay (for those who bid via Ebay)

gliderpilotuk
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posted 01-15-2008 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has to be the first time I've seen the "private listing" format used in a public auction. I would have thought Ebay make it hard enough to identify bidders, so what's the rationale?

Paul

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posted 01-19-2008 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NightHawk117   Click Here to Email NightHawk117     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Has to be the first time I've seen the "private listing" format used in a public auction.
Also, I have never had to put a credit card on file in order to bid in a ebay live auction. Aurora, Regency, etc. do not require a credit card on file. I personally don't see the need for it.

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Originally posted by NightHawk117:
Also, I have never had to put a credit card on file in order to bid in a ebay live auction. Aurora, Regency, etc. do not require a credit card on file. I personally don't see the need for it.
I believe that's a glitch w/eBay. Did it register you without one? Some folks I know hit that barricade but it still registered them.

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As it is tax preparation time, and noting that a 5% buyer premium will go to the Arizona Challenger Center.. will buyer's receive a tax deductibility receipt on memorabilia purchased at the Novaspace auction for the 5% premium attriutable to the Center? Best regards.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 01-21-2008 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Novaspace Galleries:
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We have about 550 mail-in or faxed bids for the live auction and roughly 975 on eBay. Auction is this Saturday.

We must have your advance bids by midnight Wednesday, as we will be leaving for Phoenix (2 hours away) and won't have access to our fax or email.

If you are advance bidding on eBay, you'll have until an hour before the auction starts.


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Well everybody the main event is just a few hours away now. I am very excited. There are some exceptional items in the auction and it seems that there has already been a lot of interest and bidding. I can't wait just to see what some of the items sell for. I will certainly be putting my bids in on a few items. I hope that everyone does well. Best of luck with your bids.

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posted 01-26-2008 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freshspot   Click Here to Email freshspot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh.

This live auction is so amazingly SLOW. It will be midnight by the time the items I'm interested in come up.

Too bad. I've got a few grand to spend, but it looks like Novaspace won't be getting it this time...

Dave Scott
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skippy in space
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posted 01-26-2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skippy in space   Click Here to Email skippy in space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think about us in the UK, it's taken 7 hours to get to the 50% mark which means it will be 6am before it finishes after starting at 4pm.

I occasionally place absentee bids but didn't in this case except for one item I really wanted as I was working of the fact this would be over well before midnight.

Also just realised the lots I'm waiting for are around the 500 mark not the 300 mark that I had convinced myself.

Well done to Kim for the auction, which in turn might set some future custom signing fees from the prices realized, but at this speed it, it needs to be stopped at the shuttle stuff and started again tomorrow. But that's not possible as people will have travelled to be there in person.

So something for the future.

SpaceSteve
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posted 01-26-2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceSteve   Click Here to Email SpaceSteve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree Dave... this is absolutely the slowest eBay live auction I've ever seen.

I did win one lot (an Alan Bean 8x10); and luckily, everything I was watching has now ended. Still, I realized too late that I could've actually done the other stuff I planned on doing today and then come back home in time to still bid on all the lots I was watching. Instead, I've been sitting here in front of my computer for 7 hours straight, and my other plans for today (going to a coin show) are completely shot.

Steve

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posted 01-26-2008 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Itís getting quite late.. .space geek will be taking wireless laptop to bed if I can keep my eyes open. Some high prices being realized for 8x10's of Leonov and Tereshkova, strange as they are both signing at autograph shows, there must be loads out there with the ink all but dry. I'm a patch collector too but I am wary of bulk lots as there are a lot of repro items out there even for payloads that never had an official logo, let alone patch.
Good collecting, happy hunting,

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posted 01-26-2008 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skippy in space   Click Here to Email skippy in space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite late 8 hours down and 45% to go, my carriage has just turned into a pumpkin.

Laptop to bed sounds good but wife would leave me.

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posted 01-26-2008 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This auction has been pulling in some VERY high prices. Can anyone figure out why a Valentina Tereshkova autographed portrait (Lot 326) would pull in $1300 plus buyer's premium? That's one too many zeros by my count. Oh well, congrats to the consignor!

There were some bargains to be had...like the test pilots photo with 33 signatures (for $575).

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posted 01-26-2008 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being new to bidding is there a reason why some bidders' ID is kept confidential? It possibly means I cannot contact successful bidders for information on the article they won. Simplistic as I am I have listed my contact information on my eBay buyers view. Perhaps I have much to learn?

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It possibly means I cannot contact successful bidders for information on the article they won.
Think you answered your own question there. Its to stop people from being contacted.

Most people will post what they won here after the auction finishes. Excuse the poor typing as its 1:30 am.

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posted 01-26-2008 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skippy in space   Click Here to Email skippy in space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2:10 am and I got what I came for the 50+ landing passes

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posted 01-26-2008 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eilisk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3:47am and still waiting for shuttle docs. My first auction though, so still enjoying the show I may be grumpy tomorrow though!

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posted 01-27-2008 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to give up at midnight European time with the auction nowhere near the stuff I was intending to bid on. I guess next time the auction will be split over two days.

From a patch point of view I've seen that the Collins signed (unflown) Apollo 11 BIG patch went for a whopping $2520! (with fees). [On reflection, I suspect the buyer may have misinterpreted the item description as implying this was actually the patch worn by Collins on his bio suit.]

Sadly for me I see that Gemini X patch went for a laughably-low $360! I can only assume that this was because the patch bidders had all given up and gone to bed by the time it came round, all assuming that it would sell for more like $1300 in any case.

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posted 01-27-2008 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by skippy in space:
Think you answered your own question there. Its to stop people from being contacted.
Why, then, do no other live auctions adopt this approach? Has anyone here been hassled after winning an auction? I asked this question on cS a few weeks ago but it was not answered.

It's not that easy these days to get an eBay member's contact details if you were not part of the transaction. Private Bidding used to be frowned on in eBay auctions but it now seems to have become all the rage for unknown reasons.

Paul

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posted 01-27-2008 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot 326 Tereshkova for $1300!! Madness. What was she? - 20$/25$ at Autographica. And the Leonovs...

Paul

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posted 01-27-2008 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for machbusterman   Click Here to Email machbusterman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Lot 326 Tereshkova for $1300!! Madness. What was she? - 20$/25$ at Autographica. And the Leonovs...
If memory serves me correctly VT was £15 at Autographica 2004. Around $30 in today's money. Whovever bought that photo cannot have had any idea of its true value which I'd say would be around $100 max.

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posted 01-27-2008 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jimsz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There were a number of items I was interested in but the auction was simply too slow.

This had to affect the prices of the later items.

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I wasn't able to catch the auction on ebay when the Armstrong items were sold. Does anyone know what lots 191, 192, 193 sold for?

Also, I found it surprising that the Yeager photos went above their estimates.

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posted 01-27-2008 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benguttery   Click Here to Email benguttery     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very slow. Had lots of time to get some other chores done. Lots of chores including replacing the rear shocks on my Volvo (not kidding). However, it was fun and I hope it was a success for Novaspace. I have a huge smile on my face as I await the arrival of my Gemini X patch. Ben


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