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posted 09-17-2004 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaced out   Click Here to Email spaced out     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was looking through the Aurora PDF files again and double-checking against my own images files of known autopens and it seems to me a number of the Apollo crew-signed pictures look an awful-lot like classic autopens.

The following all look to me like autopens:

AS-7 Lot 265
AS-8 Lot 285
AS-9 Lot 298
AS-10 Lot 312
AS-13 Lot 428
AS-14 Lot 449

Can someone with more experience than me confirm or deny this?

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posted 09-17-2004 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Brown   Click Here to Email James Brown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't tell on the Apollo 8 photo, but all the rest are definate autopens.

James

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posted 09-18-2004 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, all the listed lots are Autopen - incl. the Apollo 8 (from what I can see).

I will be posting a more complete list through my newsletter soon.

Florian

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posted 09-22-2004 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p.kentzinger   Click Here to Email p.kentzinger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any opinion about the A-11 crew signed litho lot #351

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posted 09-22-2004 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mensclub10@aol.com   Click Here to Email mensclub10@aol.com     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's kind of sad for all the autograph collectors. The autographed items that are offered are few and far between and some of the prime ones offered, other than the Apollo 1 signed litho, are mostly autopens. I was looking for a Apollo 13 (Swigert) crew signed litho and wanted to add some signed Shuttle crews (none offered) . Well as us Cub fans say, wait until next year (or Spring).

Dave

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posted 09-23-2004 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The color catalogue on the website has NOT been corrected for the a/p's, so I assume when VJC says "the online catalogue has been corrected" she means the ebay live version - caveat emptor.

In addition I would want to see #76 Shepard in person. I made the mistake of buying one of these once and it was a PRINTED signature. The attached letter could, of course be ok, but we don't know that.

On the whole though, it's a good effort to get hard copy and online catalogue earlier than in previous years.

Paul Bramley

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posted 09-23-2004 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed, those mentioned are indeed autopens. Another autopen is, believe it or not, #54 with the Mercury 7 signed pic. It contains autopens of Schirra, Cooper, and possibly a secretarial of Shepard. The others appear to be authentic...and please take my word for it as I can help prove the APs on this lot. Lot #76 isn't authentic at all, but the Shepard autograph and inscription is part of the actual print production as these came from Langley in 1961 when Shepard became so popular as America's first spaceman (i.e. I have several of these myself that were issued in two different sizes). Need to recheck #280 on the Lovell as my catalog is fuzzy on that particular lot...but...there appears to be Lovell autopens from #s 279, 281, and 285. Perhaps atypical Scott on #297, but need to see closer. Crew autopens are for the following; #265, 298, 312, 428, 448, 560 (Stafford), and need to recheck #471 as I can't see it too well in my catalog (old age setting in, huh). Let me briefly comment on Lot #306 with the flown Apollo 10 lunar-orbital flag. It contains printed autopen signatures of Stafford and Young, however, the Cernan is genuine and the inscription at the bottom of the flag certificate is in Cernan's hand. This is my first "rough-draft" impression of autopens, etc., but I haven't had enough time to examine the other pages beyond the ASTP section. I do have some concerns and issues about some of the Apollo 11 material being offered in this auction (i.e. Armstrong signatures), but I think it would be best not to remark at this time. As before, I was requested to make some observations from several collectors in this forum that I hope will be useful and helpful (not to criticize) in some way.

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posted 09-23-2004 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael   Click Here to Email Michael     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about item # 351.....Apollo 11(SP)

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posted 09-23-2004 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael   Click Here to Email Michael     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!!!....And Item #54 is from the Mike Collins collection.....Does he know they were autopens....Just Asking

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posted 09-24-2004 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DChudwin   Click Here to Email DChudwin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any thoughts on #435- Jack Swigert WSS?
David

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