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David Stephenson
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posted 12-19-2003 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Stephenson   Click Here to Email David Stephenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is great to hear the news Beagle2 has ejected safely from the Mars Express and is now on its final part of its journey to Mars.

I will be keeping my fingers crossed for a successful touchdown on December 25th.

Hawkman
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posted 12-19-2003 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawkman   Click Here to Email Hawkman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go Britain!!!

derek
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posted 12-20-2003 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for derek   Click Here to Email derek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go Northern Ireland! The papers here make much of the fact that the flight ops director, Mike McKay, is a fellow Belfastman.

Philip
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posted 12-20-2003 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remarkable the first Mars exploration by Europeans and yes there's a Belgian experiment riding on Beagle 2 for atmospheric sniffing purposes...

Steve Smith
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posted 12-20-2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Smith   Click Here to Email Steve Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said when Beagle was launched, a tremendous accomplishment (including to date), and big congratulations to my European brethren on a great achievement.

Blackarrow
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posted 12-23-2003 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rather belatedly (Christmas parties....) and with tongue slightly in cheek, I have to say it: "The Beagle has wings."

fabfivefreddy
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posted 12-23-2003 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fabfivefreddy   Click Here to Email fabfivefreddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My hat's off to Europe for a successful mission.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 12-24-2003 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Less than 24 hrs to go (due to land 3am GMT on Dec 25th). GODSPEED Beagle 2!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-24-2003 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the front page of collectSPACE...
The Beagle has landed? If all has proceeded smoothly, Britain's Beagle 2 is now safely on the surface of Mars, while the European Space Agency's Mars Express is still achieving orbit about the planet. For confirmation of the landing, we will need to wait until 1:30am ET at earliest, to listen for eight musical notes composed by the British rock band Blur to be broadcast through Mars Odyssey to ground controllers on Earth. Stay "tuned" for more news.

Ben
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posted 12-25-2003 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No signal. From Spaceflight Now:
"I'm sorry to say we don't have a signal yet from the Beagle lander," Professor David Southwood, director of the European Space Agency's science program, just announced.

The NASA Mars Odyssey has made its overflight of the Beagle 2's landing site. However, it did not hear a signal from the lander below.

tegwilym
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posted 12-25-2003 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phone home Beagle, phone home!!!

spaceuk
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posted 12-25-2003 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe we shouldn't worry too much since this is 'beagle' behaviour.

This from the American Kennel Club about the beagle:

No Beagle should be allowed to roam free, as its nose will surely get it into trouble.

Future Beagle owners should be aware that Beagles are known to bark as part of their hunting heritage.

Maybe that's what Beagle2 is doing.

Its been allowed to 'roam' free from its owners, its got into trouble but will soon let us know where it is with its bark!

Robert Pearlman
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posted 12-25-2003 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beagle2 release
"This is a bit disappointing, but it's not the end of the world", said Professor Colin Pillinger, lead scientist for the Beagle 2 project. "We still have 14 contacts with Odyssey programmed into our computer and we also have the opportunity to communicate through Mars Express after 4 January."

The next window to receive confirmation that Beagle 2 has successfully landed and survived its first night on Mars will be between 10 pm and midnight (GMT) tonight, when its simple carrier signal (rather than the tune composed by Blur) may be picked up by Jodrell Bank radio observatory in Cheshire, UK. This has a much greater chance of success because the giant telescope is able to scan the entire side of the planet facing the Earth.

Another overflight by Mars Odyssey will take place around 18.15 GMT tomorrow evening, followed by daily opportunities to contact Beagle 2 via the Mars Odyssey spacecraft and the radio telescopes at Jodrell Bank and Stanford University in the United States.

There are several possible explanations for the failure of Odyssey to pick up Beagle 2's signal. Perhaps the most likely is that Beagle 2 landed off course, in an area where communication with Mars Odyssey was difficult, if not impossible. Another possibility is that the lander's antenna was not pointing in the direction of the orbiter during its brief passage over the landing site. If the onboard computer had suffered a glitch and reset Beagle 2's clock, the two spacecraft could be hailing each other at the wrong times.

The Beagle 2 lander entered the thin Martian atmosphere at 2.47 GMT today. Travelling at a speed of more than 12,500 mph (20,000 km per hour), the probe was protected from external temperatures that soared to 1,700 degrees C by a heat shield made of cork-like material.

As friction with the thin upper atmosphere slowed its descent, onboard accelerometers were used to monitor the spacecraft's progress. At an altitude of about 4.5 miles (7.1 km), Beagle's software was to order the firing of a mortar to deploy a pilot parachute, followed one minute later by deployment of the 33 ft (10 m) diameter main parachute and separation of the heat shield.

At a few hundred metres above the surface, a radar altimeter was to trigger the inflation of three gas-filled bags. Cocooned inside this protective cushion, Beagle 2 was expected to hit the rust-red surface at a speed of about 38 mph (60 km/h). As soon as the bags made contact with the surface, the main parachute was to be released so that the lander could bounce away unhindered. Like a giant beach ball, the gas bag assembly was expected to bounce along the surface for several minutes before coming to rest at 2.54am GMT.

Finally, a system of laces holding the three gas-bags onto the lander was to be cut, allowing them to roll away and drop Beagle 2 about 3 ft (1 m) onto the surface. The whole descent sequence from the top of the atmosphere to impact was to take less than seven minutes.

The "pocket watch" design of Beagle 2 ensured that it would turn upright irrespective of which way up the little lander fell. After the onboard computer sent commands to release the clamp band and open the lid, the way would be clear to deploy the four, petal-like solar panels and initiate charging of the batteries.

Confirmation of the successful landing would be provided by a musical "beeping" signal of 9 digitally encoded notes, composed by British rock group Blur. This signal should be picked up by Mars Odyssey as it passes overhead and then relayed to Earth.

astronut
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posted 12-27-2003 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astronut   Click Here to Email astronut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to say it's looking like "That dog won't hunt." With only three successful landings to date by all spacefaring nations there's no cause for despair. Better luck next time.

David Stephenson
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posted 01-04-2004 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David Stephenson   Click Here to Email David Stephenson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Beagle2 team have not given up hope on contacting Beagle2 with more attempts to communicate planned.

Rick Boos
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posted 01-05-2004 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rick Boos   Click Here to Email Rick Boos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The first attempt to communicate with Beagle 2 via the Mars Expess will be on Jan. 7. Good hunting!!!

spaceuk
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posted 01-07-2004 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw in a seperate forum that the Beagle2 descent parachutes were not released until after it had landed? Is that correct?

I thought they were to be released a few seconds earlier and that only the lander bags were released on landing?

The poster suggested that the chutes had probably fell down over top over Beagle2.

mmmoo
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posted 01-07-2004 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mmmoo   Click Here to Email mmmoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bad news!

The Mars Express had now passed over the landing site and failed to pick up any signal from Beagle 2. There are still a few more options to try, but its looking very bad now.

Philip
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posted 01-21-2004 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Beagle 2 Team has announced plans to end the comms silence, and attempt to contact the lander on the 24th and 25th of January.

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