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Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-07-2019 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NASA opens space station to for-profit activities, private astronauts

NASA is extending its support on board the International Space Station to include new commercial activities, including hosting private astronauts, in an effort to eventually turn over low Earth orbit operations to private industry.

The space agency on Friday (June 7) rolled out its five-part plan for fostering a low Earth orbit economy at the Nasdaq MarketSite in New York City.

"NASA is opening the International Space Station to commercial opportunities and marketing these opportunities like we have never done before," said Jeff DeWit, NASA's chief financial officer. "We're announcing the ability for private astronauts to visit the space station on U.S. vehicles and for companies to engage in profit-making opportunities."

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posted 06-07-2019 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MCroft04   Click Here to Email MCroft04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that the cost would be about $35,000 per night.

That is great! Sign me up for one night. What the hey; I'll stay two nights.

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posted 06-07-2019 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sounds great on the face of it.

NASA wants to rent accommodation on the ISS, but you have to negotiate with the launch provider for a ride there and back. If NASA administers the Commercial Crew Program, which is paid for by the government (deliver and return four crew members and their equipment to International Space Station), does this mean that the private astronauts can’t ride along on the launch? Or do they just negotiate for an available seat?

If I pay SpaceX to ride a Crew Dragon to the ISS, or ULA and Boeing to ride a Starliner, can I bring friends along to ride share?

And for the money charged per night within the ISS, is this fee shared between the countries that make up the International part of the ISS?

Robert Pearlman
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NASA is enabling up to two dedicated commercial crew flights per year for private astronauts. The seats will be sold separately, at a price to be decided by Boeing and SpaceX, and brokered through a company that NASA also wants to handle all of the training and logistics for the flight. NASA is supporting flights up to 30 days.

The funds collected to reimburse station resources will be retained by the United States. Private astronauts (or the private sector company that arranges their flight) will need to negotiate separate agreements if there is a desire to use resources in other countries' modules.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-27-2019 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA release
NASA Announces Intent to Procure a Future Short Duration Spaceflight Opportunity

NASA has released a synopsis with the intent to purchase a seat on a private astronaut mission for a short duration single flight opportunity to the International Space Station to meet both human research and low-Earth orbit commercialization needs.

NASA's goal is to achieve a robust economy in low-Earth orbit from which NASA can purchase services as one of many customers. The purchase of a private astronaut mission seat will directly support NASA's low-Earth orbit commercialization goals by helping to lay the foundation for America to maintain a constant human presence in low-Earth orbit to be enabled by a commercial market. NASA is committed to working with our partners to return human spaceflight capability to American soil and also will keep its commitment to have an American crew member on the space station until these new capabilities are routinely available.

As the only place for conducting research about how living in microgravity affects living organisms, especially humans, as well as demonstrating and testing technologies essential to enable humans to explore the Moon and Mars, the International Space Station serves as an important stepping stone for NASA's Artemis program that will land the first woman and next man on the Moon.

Current human spaceflight mission durations are typically six months. In preparation for NASA's plans for human missions to the Moon and Mars, NASA has identified a requirement to use missions of varying length on which it collects standard data to establish profiles of human physiological, behavioral, and psychological variables of importance for ensuring astronaut health and performance during future long-duration deep space missions. Private astronaut mission opportunities NASA identified as part of its low-Earth orbit economy plan are up to 30 days, within the timeframe necessary to perform research and collect critical data to build a comprehensive human spaceflight physiological profile.

A robust commercial space economy ensures that national interests for research and development in low-Earth orbit are fulfilled while allowing NASA to focus government resources on deep-space exploration. A continuous U.S. human presence in low-Earth orbit will support the utilization of space by U.S. citizens, companies, and academia, as well as international partners, while maintaining a permanent American foothold on the nearest part of the space frontier. Market studies identified private astronaut missions to low-Earth orbit as a key element to demonstrate demand and reduce risk for future commercial destinations in low-Earth orbit.

NASA's purchase of a seat on a future private astronaut mission of no more than four total crew members helps both foster the low-Earth orbit economy as well as provides NASA an additional way to meet its needs for research aboard the International Space Station. Meeting those goals further enables the agency to focus its resources on the goals of the Artemis program, including to land the first woman and next man on the Moon. This is the first phase in creating a sustainable lunar presence to prepare for future missions to Mars.

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NASA release
NASA Updates Pricing Policy to Full Value for Commercial Activities on Space Station

NASA is laying the foundation for America to maintain a human presence in low-Earth orbit in which one day NASA will become one of many customers in a robust commercial marketplace. To realize that goal, NASA has opened the International Space Station (ISS) for business to enable commercial and marketing opportunities on the microgravity laboratory.

Since making these opportunities available, there has been a growing demand for commercial and marketing activities from both traditional aerospace companies and from novel industries, demonstrating the benefits of the space station to help catalyze and expand space exploration markets and the low-Earth orbit economy. As a result, NASA has updated its pricing policy for commercial activities conducted on the station to reflect full reimbursement for the value of NASA resources.

In June 2019, NASA first released its commercial marketing pricing policy to establish subsidized pricing to stimulate and enable the use of resources on the space station. NASA anticipated revisiting the pricing policy periodically and adjusting prices as market forces dictated in response to interest, market growth, and competition (reference NID 8600.121). The pricing policy from June 2019 did not reflect full reimbursement for the value of NASA resources; it was intended to stimulate the market and was planned to be adjusted.

Based on discussions with stakeholders, the current market growth, and in anticipation of future commercial entities capable of providing similar services, the agency has updated the Commercial Use Activities pricing policy effective immediately. The new pricing applies to proposals submitted under NASA Research Announcement (NRA) NNJ13ZBG001N Focus Area 3 Purchase of Resources for Commercial Purposes. NASA is in the process of reassessing the value and amount of available resources for private astronaut missions and plans to update that pricing policy in the near future.

For more than 20 years, NASA has supported a continuous U.S. human presence in low-Earth orbit. The agency is working to continue the development and growth of the low-Earth orbit economy. Low-Earth orbit provides a relatively cost-effective environment for crew training, fundamental and applied research, advanced systems development, Earth observation, space technology maturation and testing, as well as advancing testing of human health countermeasures in preparation for deep space missions, and, the newest focus area, commercial and marketing activities.

Robert Pearlman
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NASA has increased the prices it will charge for future private astronaut missions to the International Space Station, saying the new prices reflect the true costs of supporting those missions, SpaceNews reports.
A revised price list, posted April 29, updates the prices NASA charges to private missions flying to the ISS for cargo, station resources, crew time and other services. NASA said earlier this year it would update the pricing after revising its charges for commercial and marketing activities on the station.

Under the original pricing policy released in June 2019, as part of NASA’s low Earth orbit commercialization strategy, the agency charged $11,250 per person per day for life support and toilet capabilities, and $22,500 per person per day for other crew supplies, including food and air. There were additional, smaller changes for stowage, power and data.

The new pricing policy charges $5.2 million per person for ISS crew time to support a private astronaut mission, and $4.8 million per mission for integration and basic services, such as mission planning. The policy now charges between $88,000 and $164,000 per person per day for pre-staging food and other cargo on the station for those missions on NASA cargo vehicles and for disposing cargo on those spacecraft. It also charges between $40 and $1,500 per person per day for crew supplies and $2,000 per person per day for food.

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posted 04-28-2022 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How much charges NASA for 1 kg to be delivered into ISS and back to Earth? How much charges NASA for one hour work of an astronaut on board ISS?

How much charges Roscosmos?

Editor's note: Threads merged.

On edit: This thread answers my questions regarding NASA perfectly.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-28-2022 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To my knowledge, Roscosmos has no similar published rates. Each flight is negotiated on a case-by-case basis.

You could try contacting Glavkosmos, which is the international commercial division of Roscosmos.

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