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GoesTo11
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posted 08-18-2011 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone here tell me definitively which NASA T-38 John Young and Bob Crippen flew into KSC for the last time before finally launching on STS-1?

I'm embarking on a model project (previously referenced and soon to be elaborated upon in the "Models and Toys" forum), and this is the the aircraft I'd choose to be my subject...but I need a "tail number." Any help? Ideally with photo(s). THANKS!

heng44
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posted 08-18-2011 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the slides I took when they arrived it seems that Young flew NASA-929 and Crippen NASA-924. That was on April 8, 1981.

heng44
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posted 08-19-2011 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correction: checked my other photos. Young flew NASA-909. Also identified as T-38 no.60 (AF serial no.65-1035).

GoesTo11
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posted 08-20-2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ed! I probably should have just asked you first.

I wasn't sure whether Young and Crippen flew into KSC in the same jet or separately. Could I trouble you to send me a pic or two of John Young's 909 on that day?

irish guy
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posted 08-20-2011 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for irish guy   Click Here to Email irish guy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am probably wrong about this, and it makes no difference but I thought Young and Crippen arrived at Patrick AFB in the early days.

GoesTo11
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posted 08-20-2011 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by irish guy:
I am probably wrong about this, and it makes no difference but I thought Young and Crippen arrived at Patrick AFB in the early days.
STS-1 was delayed for years; I assumed Young and Crippen came and went numerous times in the interim. I wanted to know which jet(s) they flew in on for the last time prior to launch.

Cozmosis22
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posted 08-20-2011 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go to Ed's Photo of the Week 75c. He shows Young flew into Patrick on April 8th with no mention of the skid strip at Kennedy. Maybe they just drove up A1A and stopped off for a snack at The Moon Hut on the way?

heng44
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posted 08-21-2011 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heng44   Click Here to Email heng44     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We had to drive to Patrick AFB in those days to see the crew arrive. Young and Crippen flew separate jets and George Abbey was flying backseat with Young. I'll mail you some photos of Young's T-38.

GoesTo11
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posted 08-21-2011 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I admit I was startled to learn that the Gatekeeper himself rode in Young's back seat that day.

Also, if any of you didn't know, Ed Hengeveld is awesome.

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