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Tykeanaut
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posted 08-14-2011 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tykeanaut   Click Here to Email Tykeanaut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know which everyday in-service ship NASA's solid rocket booster recovery ships "Liberty Star" and "Freedom Star" most closely resemble?

Cozmosis22
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posted 08-14-2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cozmosis22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believe that in their past lives they were Coast Guard cutters.

PeterO
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posted 08-14-2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeterO   Click Here to Email PeterO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The KSC Fact Sheet for the ships says that they were specifically designed and constructed as SRB recovery vessels, not modified from existing ships.

The high bow and low working deck aft is similar to the design of ocean-going tugs, which is the role that they play.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-21-2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA release
NASA, Maritime Administration announce new home For Liberty Star

NASA and the Transportation Department's Maritime Administration (MARAD) signed a memorandum of understanding Aug. 21 to transfer NASA's solid rocket booster recovery ship, M/V Liberty Star, to the National Defense Reserve Fleet for use as a training vessel at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, N.Y.

"Liberty Star served NASA well during the Space Shuttle Program," said Robert Lightfoot, acting associate administrator for NASA. "We know it will greatly benefit the Kings Point midshipmen, and we're proud that Liberty Star will continue to serve the United States with distinction."

With the end of the Space Shuttle Program, the two agencies worked together to ensure Liberty Star could continue service as a training vessel for midshipmen at the Merchant Marine Academy. This agreement is mutually beneficial for NASA and MARAD. This ship will serve as a training vessel at the academy, providing significant merchant marine training value to Kings Point midshipmen as the vessel has dynamic positioning, modern towing capabilities and other features that will expand training opportunities. NASA will continue to have access to Liberty Star if the agency requires its use and it is available.

"This agreement is a win-win for both Kings Point and NASA," said Maritime Administrator David Matsuda. "The ship's high tech equipment and real world capabilities closely mirror what graduates will see entering the maritime work force."

Liberty Star was launched in 1981 and served as one of two recovery vessels for retrieving the space shuttle's solid rocket boosters, which were jettisoned about 2 minutes after launch from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. NASA still is working to identify a suitable new use for M/V Freedom Star, the other recovery ship.

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-21-2012 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how would the five segment SRB be recovered for the new heavy launch vehicle. Would they enter back into service once the vehicle goes into test?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-21-2012 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA does not plan to recover the boosters launched as part of the Space Launch System. Like the RS-25 (SSME) engines, the boosters are becoming expendable components.

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-21-2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, I did not understand that was the plan. What was the rational? Is there a site where I could read more about the SRBs role in the new initative?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-21-2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As of now, the use of the solid rocket boosters is only assured for the initial test flights. The purpose for using the shuttle legacy hardware (e.g. SRB canisters, SSMEs) for those tests is in large part driven by cost reduction concerns; recovery efforts add to cost.

I do not believe NASA or its contractors have yet to assemble briefing materials that go into this level of detail; most is derived from press briefings and internal planning documents.

(To keep this topic focused on the retiring recovery ships, I'm going to suggest that further questions about the SLS be posted to its dedicated discussion thread.)

On edit: I'll note that the release does say that "NASA will continue to have access to Liberty Star if the agency requires its use and it is available."

GACspaceguy
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posted 08-21-2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert. It is great to see that these ships will be repurposed and that new seamen will be doing training on such a historic vessel.

I would understand why they would remain in service as I am assuming there is very little time on these ships.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 08-21-2012 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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NASA's space shuttle rocket recovery ship setting sail for Merchant Marines

A NASA sea ship that for 30 years retrieved space shuttle boosters after they splashed down in the Atlantic Ocean now has a new mission to serve the Merchant Marines.

Following up on the earlier conversation, I confirmed with NASA this afternoon that the Space Launch System will be using expendable boosters, both during its test and operational flight programs.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 08-22-2012 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reports are that the ship will be renamed the Kings Pointer. A previous Kings Pointer was transferred from USMMA to Texas, which didn't have a ship to train midshipmen.

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