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SkyMan1958
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posted 03-14-2022 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's face it, this decision had to have been made by Putin. I suspect that his decision was threefold. First, this allows continuing "businesslike" discussion with the US. Second, Putin's propaganda has always emphasized Russia's greatness, and often has included images of Sputnik, Gagarin etc. To keep the ISS going (at least for now), allows Putin to say, "Hey, we are adults here," (even if they don't act like it), and to show Russia's greatness in space as a full partner in the largest space station in existence.

Finally, given Russia's interest in joining with the Chinese in space operations, to leave a US astronaut onboard the ISS would really put the Russians in a bad light in regards to being partners in space, and the Chinese would certainly note that. This may be the single most important reason for Putin's decision.

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In a bit of a surprise, SpaceX has agreed to launch OneWeb satellites. Here's an Ars Technica article on it.

Personally I thought that Musk would let OneWeb stay in a holding pattern until an ISRO, Arienespace (or Japanese) rocket could do the job, burning through its cash on the way to potential bankruptcy.

One would assume that SpaceX drove a hard bargain, potentially including getting some current and/or future political brownie points, maybe for SpaceX or maybe for Tesla, from the UK and/or Indian governments.

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(Please do not cite or link to tabloids or publications that have no understanding of what is being said. Those posts have and will be removed.)

Dmitry Rogozin today (April 2) posted a thread on Twitter wherein he shared the replies he received from NASA, ESA and the Canadian Space Agency to his request (demand) to have sanctions lifted. Suffice to say, the sanctions remain in place.

This, said Rogozin, is unacceptable and then wrote:

I believe that the restoration of normal relations between partners in the International Space Station and other joint projects is possible only with the complete and unconditional lifting of illegal sanctions.

Specific proposals of Roscosmos on the timing of the completion of cooperation within the ISS with the space agencies of the United States, Canada, the European Union and Japan will be reported to the leadership of our country in the near future.

He did not say Roscosmos was ending cooperation in the space station, as some news publications have since claimed. He only wrote that the date when ISS cooperation would come to an end (2024, as it is currently, or 2030) would soon come under consideration — exactly as it was before Russia invaded Ukraine. Rogozin isn't making any news here.

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posted 04-03-2022 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting British newspaper article here. It now seems even some ESA scientists are doubting the ExoMars rover will ever fly.

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I'm surprised that in The Guardian article, "While some scientists remain relatively optimistic that Europe and Russia might cooperate in space again...". What planet are these scientists living on? Barring a major war that kills off humanity, yes, at some point, ESA and Russia will work together in space again. However, that will not be for many years.

It's not like the Europeans need to work with the Russians. The Europeans will have options to work with NASA, JAXA and other space agencies (or private firms) on various specific missions. Granted, when working with NASA you are never sure if the US Government will cancel the funding for a program, but almost certainly most of the programs will go through to completion.

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ESA is continuing to work with Roscosmos right now: the European robotic arm is mounted to Russia's Nauka module. The upcoming series of Russian spacewalks are expected to include an ESA crew member (Samantha Cristoforetti) to oversee bringing the arm online.

I would expect that if the Ukraine war ends with Russia retreating, then Soyuz operations at the European Spaceport will resume, as will European payloads launching on other Russian rockets. The only real unknown is ExoMars and that is because ESA may be too far down the path of an alternative to revert back to using the Russian platform.

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Not as optimistic (nor support such a resumption). Anything short of withdrawal to the borders agreed to in the 1997 treaty, Putin's resignation and accountability for what appears to be widespread war crimes would not be a return to the status quo or business as usual in part because the sanctions will remain.

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posted 04-04-2022 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carmelo   Click Here to Email carmelo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technically Russian can seal of their sector of ISS, before of abandon the station?

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Not without a good deal (possibly months-long) of work. Cables have been strung through the Unity node, Zarya FBG (which belongs to the U.S.) and Zvesda service module that would most likely need to be cut and re-routed to close off the modules.

Russia would also need to launch additional Progress vehicles to generate power for the Russian segment as the panels on Zvezda are degraded and no longer produce sufficient electricity.

And those are just the high level technical concerns. Roscosmos would also be breaking several international treaties, which sounds trivial but would expose Russia to further sanctions and penalties.

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I can't see the ISS surviving if Putin isn't either replaced or "suffers a sudden and unexpected heart attack/stroke necessitating a new presidential election."

The evidence of brutal war-crimes in the wake of the Russian retreat from the Kyiv region must surely leave all reasonable people wanting nothing to do with the Putin regime or anything associated with it.

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During his Cosmonautics Day speech today Putin said he’d told Rogozin to fly a cosmonaut from Belarus on a Soyuz in the near future.

Apart from this move harking back to the Kremlin forced political Interkosmos flights of the 1970s and 80s - surely it’s irrelevant as a number Soviet cosmonauts were from Belarus. I think one active cosmonaut was even born there so maybe he’ll get the nod to fly soon?

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So, here's my question, will Americans fly on the Soyuz in the future (And Russians on Dragon)?

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As today, yes, according to comments made on Monday (April 11) by Dmitry Rogozin. From TASS:
"We will work as normal at least until 2024 on all our plans. They have not changed. Seat swap flights add confidence to the station’s safety: we understand the technology of running a US spaceship and the Americans know the technology of running our spacecraft," the Roscosmos chief said in an interview with the Rossiyskaya Gazeta daily.

This area of cooperation is useful, the Roscosmos chief emphasized.

"Why give up something that is useful? Anna Kikina [Russian woman cosmonaut] flew to Houston (USA) to familiarize herself with the design of the modules of the ISS American segment and the Crew Dragon spacecraft whose crew she may join. On our part, we are not ruining anything and keep to preliminary accords, although we continue waiting for the government’s decision on the program of cross flights," Rogozin explained.

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European Space Agency (ESA) release
Redirecting ESA programmes in response to geopolitical crisis

Following the Russian aggression against Ukraine, ESA's Director General has initiated a comprehensive review of all activities currently undertaken in cooperation with Russia and Ukraine. The objective is to determine the possible consequences of this new geopolitical context for ESA programmes and activities and to create a more resilient and robust space infrastructure for Europe.

The ESA Council on 13 April acknowledged the following findings and took the following decisions.

ESA will discontinue cooperative activities with Russia on Luna-25, -26 and -27. As with ExoMars, the Russian aggression against Ukraine and the resulting sanctions put in place represent a fundamental change of circumstances and make it impossible for ESA to implement the planned lunar cooperation. However, ESA's science and technology for these missions remains of vital importance. A second flight opportunity has already been secured on board a NASA-led Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) mission for the PROSPECT lunar drill and volatile analysis package (originally planned for Luna-27). An alternative flight opportunity to test the ESA navigation camera known as PILOT-D (originally planned for Luna-25) is already being procured from a commercial service provider.

Meanwhile, a way forward for the PILOT precision landing and hazard avoidance technology is already being defined. This capability is needed for European Lunar exploration activities such as the European Large Logistic Lander (EL3), proposed for decision at CM22. Further, the ESA Director General and the President of the Japanese agency JAXA last week signed an agreement to fly ESA's EMS-L, the Exospheric Mass Spectrometer instrument, on board the JAXA/ISRO LUPEX lunar rover mission. This adds to the growing list of European experiments flying to the Moon in the next few years.

Although all the elements of the ExoMars Rover mission (the launcher, carrier module, descent module and Rosalind Franklin rover) have now passed their flight readiness reviews, because cooperation with Roscosmos on ExoMars has been suspended, the mission will not be launched in September this year. Instead, a fast-track study is now under way led by Thales Alenia Space of Italy to assess options for the way forward.

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Although the renaming of Ukrainian streets is an understandable reaction to the Russian invasion, I hope this move is reversed in time:
The city of Ternopil, in western Ukraine, has renamed a street dedicated to the Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space.

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Russia will quit International Space Station over sanctions.
The head of Russia's space program said Moscow will pull out of the International Space Station, state media reported, a move it has blamed on sanctions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.

"The decision has been taken already, we're not obliged to talk about it publicly," Tass and RIA Novosti reported Roscosmos General Director Dmitry Rogozin as saying in an interview with state TV on Saturday. "I can say this only -- in accordance with our obligations, we'll inform our partners about the end of our work on the ISS with a year's notice."

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The Bloomberg article cites TASS and RIA Novosti, but when you go and check out the original articles, you find that Rogozin said the exact opposite of what Bloomberg is reporting. Russia is not pulling out of the space station program:
"We should not hustle now declaring our stance and will carry on with our work within the timeframe set by the government, which is until 2024," Rogozin said. "A decision regarding the ISS future will depend to a great extent on the developing situation both in Russia and around it."

He also said that if Russia decided to withdraw from the ISS project, it would notify its foreign partners about this decision a year in advance.

Rogozin reiterated that a package of proposals on Russia's cooperation with foreign partners on the ISS project after the year of 2024 was sent to Russian President Vladimir Putin and the country's government.

"Our proposed decision, which was sent to the country's authorities, was considered at the Supervisory Board of the Roscosmos state corporation," he said.

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I wonder how badly Roscosmos' budget is getting hit by the "military operation"? While for NASA/ESA/JAXA/CSA the cost for launching the amount of contracted astronaut time and supplies is relatively small, the launch of multiple Soyuz and Progress vehicles might be starting to add up in the post-sanction economy of Russia.

While I hope the ISS continues to function, if it does get canned, one would hope that the NASA money being used to fund the program would (in the next budget cycle) get pumped into some other program(s), in particular commercial space stations.

Let's face it, the Russians can't fly to the Chinese space station from Russia, so cutting/gutting the ISS literally ends their manned space program for, at a minimum, the near to medium term.

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Perhaps NASA should use the services owed to them by Boeing to use the CST-100 Starliner as a boost platform for the ISS. Starliner was meant to have the capability to boost the station and about now would be a good time to demonstrate that capability and show that nobody is irreplaceable.

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Reboost capability is not really the pressing concern: In addition to Starliner, as mentioned, Cygnus also has the ability to reboost the space station, which it will demonstrate for the first time this month.

The missing capability is stablization, which the Zvezda service module provides using three control moment gyros.

A replacement unit could probably be built, but it would require getting authorization through Congress and then competing the contract among industry, followed by the time to develop, build, test and then launch the module.

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I would suggest the wisest and most prudent strategy given how things are playing out is "hope for the best but plan for the worst." That means we need to get cracking on the reboost and stabilization programs — pronto. And talking about it to establish baseline political support is the first step.

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Reboost capability is not really the pressing concern: In addition to Starliner, as mentioned, Cygnus also has the ability to reboost the space station.

How many launch vehicles remain for Cygnus, given that it relies on Russian hardware to launch?

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The missing capability is stablization, which the Zvezda service module provides using three control moment gyros.

The technology to build a stabilization system, either a module or components that mount to the existing structure and have a smaller form, which increased how they can be launched to orbit, exists.

If the remaining technical partners step up and provide the capability needed to continue ISS operations, it would prove that the program truly is an international cooperation that expanded the capability of all partners.

If we imagine that Russia takes things further, and wants to remove their segments for use elsewhere (I am not saying they are), this would be another great engineering challenge that the remaining partners could tackle using the existing capabilities, and without the shuttle.

It would be sad to see the entire space station fail because one of the partners pulled out. This would be a unique opportunity to task the aerospace industry, as it stands today, with overcoming this engineering challenge and proving that the international partners and the commercial partners which stemmed from the ISS can continue the program.

Failing to do something to demonstrate that the system works without the Russians risks history reading that the program failed without the Russians.

Russia says that they will provide a year's notice for terminating their participation. I do not know what efforts they are contractually tied to do during that year, but what if they did nothing? No boost, no maintenance, no defect rectification? Just use that year to bring the crew home and nothing else. Could Russia bring it all to an end, or could the remaining partners continue on regardless? I find it an interesting question.

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There are currently parts for two more Antares missions, but Cygnus is launch vehicle independent. It can (and has) flown on Atlas V, and can launch on other boosters.

What Russia is considering now is what it was considering prior to its invasion of Ukraine — whether to continue the use of the space station beyond 2024. Recall, under the previous administration, the U.S. was ready to walk away from the space station in 2025. Now, the U.S. wants to extend to 2030 and the partners are weighing if they want to do so as well.

NASA Administrator Bill Nelson believes there is a good chance that all of the partners, Russia included, will choose to extend the program. ESA has already expressed interest, as has JAXA. Russia even said that it saw no reason not to and was inclined to do so.

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If we imagine that Russia takes things further, and wants to remove their segments for use elsewhere...
And what if NASA simply says, 'We're not going to let you do that, because it would affect the safety of those remaining on board ISS..."

If the answer to that is that Russia simply removes its cosmonauts, gives due notice, then "switches off" its modules, what then?

Could NASA hack into the systems and reboot them? What then? Some might call that "theft" or "piracy" but if it's a matter of safeguarding the remaining crew, what then?

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Looks like they’re arresting western visitors at Baikonur now...
Benjamin Rich, known for his travel channel Bald and Bankrupt, was held near a launch pad at the Baikonur Cosmodrome, the head of the Russian space agency Roscosmos said.

Dmitry Rogozin said Mr Rich was being investigated over "illegal acts".

The UK Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office said it was investigating the reports.

A woman named Alina Tseliupa and reported to be from Belarus was also apprehended, said Mr Rogozin.

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More information is needed. Were they trespassing or on an organized tour?

The article makes no mention of this being related to any heightened security or anything related to Ukraine other than the woman being from Belarus.

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Yes Robert, a false alarm — appears he was just detained and fined for trying to see the Buran hangar without permission. Typical that Rogozin would even mention this on his Telegram social media page. Would a NASA Administrator tweet about trespassing at the Cape?

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What in the name of sanity would induce any westerner to visit Russia these days?

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Valentina Tereshkova is now being stripped of her honorary citizenship to a Czech town because of her support for the war in the Russian parliament.
Lawmakers in the southern city of Ceske Budejovice approved a move to rescind the honorary citizenship of Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman cosmonaut, who is currently a member of the Russian parliament's lower chamber.

In explaining the move, municipal lawmakers said that Tereshkova's support of Russia's war against Ukraine and her role in changes to the Russian Constitution in 2020 that set up a framework allowing for President Vladimir Putin to run again in the next election made her unworthy of the honor.

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I consider myself very fortunate that, on more than one occasion, I had the opportunity and the pleasure to visit both Star City and the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

Russia was making literally billions of dollars by selling NASA seats on Soyuz rockets. I wondered where all that money was going. It was obvious that Roscosmos wasn’t providing its employees with a safe work environment, adequate housing or what western countries would consider a living wage. Building at both locations looked to be in danger of collapse.

I suppose all those billions went to line the pockets of oligarchs. They certainly didn’t go to the skilled and dedicated workers who built and serviced the rockets and yet could hardly afford to eat at McDonald’s. The leadership of Roscosmos was screwing over the “little guy.” Should we be doing business with such people?

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Between 2006 and 2020, NASA purchased 71 seats on Russian Soyuz spacecraft at an average cost of $56.3 million per seat (or $3.9 billion total). Included in that cost were the flights themselves, training, cargo allocation on Progress spacecraft and crew logistics (e.g. Sokol suits, recovery operations, etc.).

The Soyuz and Progress spacecraft belong to RSC Energia; the Soyuz rocket is the product of the Progress Rocket Space Centre; training is overseen by Roscosmos' Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center; the Sokol spacesuits are produced by NPP Zvezda — and that is just a high level list of some of the companies and organizations involved. Suffice to say, the $56.3 million per seat was far from pure profit for Russia's federal space corporation.

It should also be noted that the average $56.3 million per seat is less than both SpaceX and Boeing are said to be charging NASA. While those figures have not been disclosed, the NASA Office of Inspector General estimated the per seat cost on Dragon to be $64.7 million and $90 million per seat on Starliner.

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The average of so many years doesn’t really tell the story, though. The Russians were in a position to charge whatever they wanted after we retired the shuttle. One might ask, what costs increased so much during this time to justify these enormous price increases?
Monopoly has its advantages. In 2006, the price tag for the one seat NASA purchased on the Soyuz was $22 million. Four years later, the Russians increased the cost to $25 million. It went up again - to $28 million - in the first half of 2011.

"During the second half of 2011, the price per seat jumped to $43 million. The price has continued to increase. For example, the price of purchased seats for launches in 2014 and 2015 are $55.6 million and $60 million, respectively,” the audit report noted.

In April, NASA signed another deal with Russia valued at $424 million for six additional seats to carry NASA astronauts to the Station during 2016 through June 2017, and the price per seat has increased to $71 million” – more than triple what the Russians charged in 2006.

Kate Rubin’s seat in 2020 went even higher:
This contract modification is $90,252,905.69 for the single crew mission seat in the fall of 2020, including all necessary training and preparation for launch, flight operations, landing and crew rescue for a long-duration mission as well as some limited crew cargo delivery to and from the station.

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Part of the cost increase was NASA combining contracts with the Russians into one flight agreement.

At the start, when the price was in the $22 to $28 million range, NASA was additionally paying Russia for Progress cargo flights, training, crew logistics and more. Over time, NASA folded those other expenses into a few and then a single contract covering all crew-related activities.

This is often overlooked when reporting on per seat costs.

Nor was the pricing unique to NASA. The same increase happened for all Soyuz customers, whether they were international partners or commercial space flight participants. Dennis Tito paid significantly less to fly to the space station than did Charles Simonyi.

And, as demonstrated by the U.S. commercial crew (estimated) rates, Roscosmos' fees were not so far out of line with what is probably the actual costs of operating such flights.

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This has to be called out as plain wrong, this is actually a shameful act on the part of these cosmonauts. From The Guardian:
The Russian cosmonauts who were lauded at the outset of the war on Ukraine in February for appearing to show their support for their invaded neighbours with yellow and blue spacesuits have been pictured on the International Space Station (ISS) holding the flags of the self-proclaimed republics in Luhansk and Donetsk, alongside a message celebrating what the Russian space agency Roscosmos termed the "liberation" of Luhansk.

In a message posted to the official Roscosmos Telegram channel, Oleg Artemyev, Denis Matveyev and Sergey Korsakov are shown holding the flags of the two occupied territories, whose occupiers are recognised as legitimate authorities only by Russia and Syria among UN member states.

The message accompanying the pictures says: "Liberation Day of the Luhansk People's Republic! We celebrate both on Earth and in space."

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Couldn't agree more. Why in the world (or above it) is America still working with nations like Russia?

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While I personally disagree with the cosmonauts holding the puppet state flags, what the Russians do in their segment is, quite literally, their business.

Trying to define what geographic area and/or people is a country is fraught with politics that depends on one's viewpoint. On Axiom 1 Israeli flags were shown. While many, if not most, countries around the world recognize Israel, there are a fair number of countries that do not recognize Israel, call it the Zionist entity, and believe it is a brutal occupier of someone else's land. Sound familiar?

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ISS is a cooperative venture... the Russian segment as it is currently configured is not independant; its operation is enabled only by being integrated with the rest of the space station.

Part of the concern is that a national space program constitutes an extension of one or more elements of national power (Military, Diplomatic, Informational, Economic); despite the desire by some to compartmentalize the program or its cosmonauts and employees from other activities and strategy the Russian government is pursuing they are inseparable.

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posted 07-07-2022 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NASA issued a statement in response to the cosmonauts' flag display:
NASA strongly rebukes Russia using the International Space Station for political purposes to support its war against Ukraine, which is fundamentally inconsistent with the station's primary function among the 15 international participating countries to advance science and develop technology for peaceful purposes.

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posted 07-08-2022 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
European Space Agency (ESA) Director General Josef Aschbacher issued a statement as well:
It is unacceptable that the ISS becomes a platform to play out the political or humanitarian crises happening on the ground. The purpose of the ISS is to conduct research and prepare us for deeper exploration. It must remain a symbol of peace and inspiration.
Roscosmos Director General Dmitry Rogozin responded to NASA's statement (unfortunately and predictably):
We will do in the Russian segment everything what we consider necessary and useful. And I advise Western partners to cancel their stupid sanctions.

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posted 07-10-2022 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In theory it appears that the Cygnus ISS resupply spacecraft NG-20 should launch in late summer/early fall of 2023. Are there any updates as to how Northrup Grumman plans to launch it and the following Cygnuses?

In looking at the Commercial Resupply Services pipeline, in theory Sierra Space's Dream Chaser should become available to be launched in 2023, but given their launch rocket is the Vulcan, that too could become an issue with BE-4 availability. However, for the Dream Chaser we at least know how the spacecraft is supposed to be launched, and at some point BE-4 production should be standardized and increased. As far as I can see, the Cygnus NG-20 and later missions are still without a future launch vehicle.


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